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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:01 pm 
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Rumour has it that the next volume in the Road Trips series will be from mid-1971 - if it's correct, it's an extremely interesting move, given the reasonably recent releases of both Dicks Picks 35 ("The Houseboat Tapes") and Three From The Vault.

Does anyone have any more on this?


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:48 pm 
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I have heard the same rumors from a semi-close source. No more details. I should say that he added the caveat "I could be wrong." It is an awful lot of 71 in close proximity. But there are some gems to be mined from the middle of the year. I could go for a disc of the two big jams from the Yale Bowl.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:11 pm 
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If it does turn out to be a '71 show, it'll definitely hit a sweet spot with me.


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:06 pm 
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This was posted at Glide. Apparently this page was up on dead.net for a short time but the link is gone now. Here's the content from the GD page:

If you’re up on your Dick’s Picks releases—and we know you are—you’ll recall that Dick’s Picks 35, released in 2005, featured some smokin’ performances from the summer of 1971. The master reels from which it was culled, long believed to have been lost, had turned up miraculously on a houseboat owned by the parents of former GD keyboardist Keith Godchaux, discovered more than 30 years later by Keith’s brother, Brian, and son, Zion. And Keith had these masters because the band wanted him to be able to hear their most recent tour in preparation for his taking the piano seat that fall. It was quite a find, to say the least—the Grateful Dead world equivalent of uncovering a new royal tomb in the Valley of the Kings.So imagine our surprise when two years later, under completely different circumstances, even more great, previously uncirculated master tapes from the summer of ’71 turned up unexpectedly. Surely that was a sign, too, that this music needed to come out and be shared with all of you. Which brings us, happily, to Road Trips Volume One, Number 3. This release offers up the brightest of these recently discovered gems: Disc One is taken from the famous show at the Yale Bowl in New Haven, Connecticut, July 31, 1971, anchored around an out-of-this-world “Dark Star” and a version of “Not Fade Away > Goin’ Down the Road” that also includes a short “Darkness, Darkness” jam. Hot stuff!The material on Disc Two is from the Auditorium Theatre in Chicago about three weeks later—8/23/71 (the following night, 8/24, was spotlighted on DP35)—and its big highlight is probably the very jammed out version of “That’s It for the Other One,” which in my humble opinion stands with the best they ever played (yes, even ones from the Fillmore West box). Spread across the discs you’ll also find outstanding versions of “China Cat > Rider,” “Uncle John’s Band > Johnny B. Goode,” “Wharf Rat,” “Sugar Magnolia” and lots more. Like the DP35 performances, these are a Phil-lover’s-delight, with massive bass on almost every track—careful if you’re driving or operating heavy machinery when you crank up these CDs!As is customary, too, for the proverbial “limited time only,” when you buy Road Trips #3, you’ll also receive a bonus disc with still more rarities from that ’71 tour. Check it out: The first few newly unearthed tracks are more from the 8/6/71 Hollywood Palladium show (featured on DP35), including the justifiably legendary, consensus-best-ever version of “Hard to Handle,” heard in pristine soundboard form for the first time. It will knock your tie-dye socks off! There are also more fine tracks from Yale Bowl, but the heart of this disc was plucked from the 8/4/71 show at Terminal Island correctional facility in Southern California, where Grateful Dead sound guru Owsley Stanley was incarcerated at the time. This show doesn’t even circulate as an audience recording! (What—a venue the tapers couldn’t crack? No way!) We think you’ll agree that all of this is GD of the highest order! As usual, these master soundboard recordings have been mastered in HDCD, and each package includes a cool booklet with an essay about the music (by yours truly in this case) and plenty o’ rare photos from the period.So…You know the drill: click here for a complete track listing for the three discs, and click here to order your copy today!

http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrac ... -way/#more

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 Post subject: Grateful Dead - Road Trips Vol 3?
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:33 am 
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Great news, if true.

I'm assuming they don't have the complete Yale Bowl show or else they'd be releasing it in its entirety.


I'd really love to see the two shows from Berkelely Community Theater get released in full - 8/14-8/15/71


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:12 pm 
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Oh my! I really hope this stuff is true.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:14 pm 
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MikeP5877 wrote:
Great news, if true.

I'm assuming they don't have the complete Yale Bowl show or else they'd be releasing it in its entirety.


I'm pretty sure they DO now have Yale Bowl in its' entirety (I understand all of the material for this release was acquired from the same source :wink: ) - as a whole show, it's probably not quite up to release standard, though the selected segments are up there with anything else from the period (the Dark Star is the best of the Skullfuck quintet era, IMHO).

I would love to see any leftovers hit circulation afterwards, though experience tells me this might not happen, the way it used to, when Dick was around and involved with releases.

Anyway, Dead.Net currently appears to be down for maintenance, so hopefully this means an announcement in the next day or two...

(If there's one thing I've been hoping to hear pretty much all my GD-collecting life, it's the SBD of Yale Bowl, especially since confirming it's existence a year or so back).


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:03 pm 
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It's official -

Road Trips Vol. 1 Number 3
More Lost and Found From the Hot, Hot Summer of’71 on this Two-Disc Set!

Shows
New Haven, CT - 7/31/71
Chicago, IL - 8/23/71
Hollywood, CA - 8/6/71
San Pedro, CA - 8/4/71



::See All Road Trips
If you’re up on your Dick’s Picks releases—and we know you are—you’ll recall that Dick’s Picks 35, released in 2005, featured some smokin’ performances from the summer of 1971. The master reels from which it was culled, long believed to have been lost, had turned up miraculously on a houseboat owned by the parents of former GD keyboardist Keith Godchaux, discovered more than 30 years later by Keith’s brother, Brian, and son, Zion. And Keith had these masters because the band wanted him to be able to hear their most recent tour in preparation for his taking the piano seat that fall. It was quite a find, to say the least—the Grateful Dead world equivalent of uncovering a new royal tomb in the Valley of the Kings.

So imagine our surprise when two years later, under completely different circumstances, even more great, previously uncirculated master tapes from the summer of ’71 turned up unexpectedly. Surely that was a sign, too, that this music needed to come out and be shared with all of you. Which brings us, happily, to Road Trips Volume One, Number 3. This release offers up the brightest of these recently discovered gems: Disc One is taken from the famous show at the Yale Bowl in New Haven, Connecticut, July 31, 1971, anchored around an out-of-this-world “Dark Star” and a version of “Not Fade Away > Goin’ Down the Road” that also includes a short “Darkness, Darkness” jam. Hot stuff!

The material on Disc Two is from the Auditorium Theatre in Chicago about three weeks later—8/23/71 (the following night, 8/24, was spotlighted on DP35)—and its big highlight is probably the very jammed out version of “That’s It for the Other One,” which in my humble opinion stands with the best they ever played (yes, even ones from the Fillmore West box). Spread across the discs you’ll also find outstanding versions of “China Cat > Rider,” “Uncle John’s Band > Johnny B. Goode,” “Wharf Rat,” “Sugar Magnolia” and lots more. Like the DP35 performances, these are a Phil-lover’s-delight, with massive bass on almost every track—careful if you’re driving or operating heavy machinery when you crank up these CDs!

As is customary, too, for the proverbial “limited time only,” when you buy Road Trips #3, you’ll also receive a bonus disc with still more rarities from that ’71 tour. Check it out: The first few newly unearthed tracks are more from the 8/6/71 Hollywood Palladium show (featured on DP35), including the justifiably legendary, consensus-best-ever version of “Hard to Handle,” heard in pristine soundboard form for the first time. It will knock your tie-dye socks off! There are also more fine tracks from Yale Bowl, but the heart of this disc was plucked from the 8/4/71 show at Terminal Island correctional facility in Southern California, where Grateful Dead sound guru Owsley Stanley was incarcerated at the time. This show doesn’t even circulate as an audience recording! (What—a venue the tapers couldn’t crack? No way!) We think you’ll agree that all of this is GD of the highest order! As usual, these master soundboard recordings have been mastered in HDCD, and each package includes a cool booklet with an essay about the music (by yours truly in this case) and plenty o’ rare photos from the period.


The third installment in our new Road Trips series features smokin' tracks from the summer tour of 1971, including highlights from shows in New Haven and Chicago.

Road Trips Vol. 1 No. 3 includes...

- Two full CD's, lovingly compiled and painstakingly mastered (in HDCD) by Jeffrey Norman

- A booklet boasting scads of great photos and an essay by Dead scholar Blair Jackson

- As always, early orders of Road Trips will also include a special limited-edition Bonus Disc with additional music from the Summer '71 tour. This one features the legendary, consensus-best-ever version of "Hard to Handle" from 8/6/71, as well as a rare recording of a show at Terminal Island Correctional Facility in Santa Ana, California (where sound guru Owsley "Bear" Stanley was incarcerated at the time).

Disc 1: 7/31/71 Yale Bowl, New Haven CT
1. Big Railroad Blues
2. Hard To Handle
3. Me and Bobby McGee
4. Dark Star>
5. Bird Song
6. Not Fade Away>
7. Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad
8. Not Fade Away
9. Uncle John's Band>
10. Johnny B. Goode

Disc 2: 8/23/71 Auditorium Theater, Chicago IL
1. China Cat Sunflower>
2. I Know You Rider
3. Truckin'
4. Sugaree
5. Cryptical Envelopment>
6. The Other One>
7. Me and My Uncle>
8. The Other One>
9. Cryptical Envelopment>
10. Wharf Rat
11. Sugar Magnolia

Bonus Disc:
1. Bertha (8/6/71 Hollywood Palladium)
2. Mr. Charlie (8/6/71 Hollywood Palladium)
3. Cumberland Blues (8/6/71 Hollywood Palladium)
4. Brokedown Palace (8/6/71 Hollywood Palladium)
5. Hard To Handle (8/6/71 Hollywood Palladium)
6. Sing Me Back Home (7/31/71 Yale Bowl)
7. Big Boss Man (7/31/71 Yale Bowl)
8. Not Fade Away> (8/4/71 Terminal Island)
9. Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad (8/4/71 Terminal Island)
10. Turn On Your Lovelight (8/4/71 Terminal Island)

http://www.dead.net/road-trips/road-tri ... 1-number-3

I just ordered this - very reasonable shipping this time around - $2.50 so it was $25 for 3 discs. I can live with that.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:39 am 
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Superb news, Federico - Yale Bowl is the one I've been waiting for.

The only personal downside (if there IS a downside), is that no future GD release could top this for me now... unless they want to put together a multi-disc DVD retrospective, that is!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:37 pm 
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Thanks so much, Federico! The deed has been done.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:59 pm 
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From your positive reviews, I'll have to try to save up for this, I've been playing R.T. #2 alot lately.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:49 pm 
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RT3 arrived today. This one will get a lot of play. Much better sound than DP35 which I thought had some tape saturation problems. Lesh is very full in the mix on this set. Completely captures his '71 sound, like he is using telephone poles for strings. The Dark Star has a small AUD patch that is expertly executed. This set is programmed much better than the first two RTs. The discs have a real flow to them.

All in all easily the best of the first three RTs.

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Wow, surprised they used an aud patch on an official release.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:58 pm 
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They used an AUD patch on DP35 too. The Fallout from the PhilZone compilation uses an amazing audience recording of the 8.6.71 Hard to Handle that is referenced in the promotional blurb above.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:38 am 
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I'm tempted to get this I just wish they'd put it out in stores instead of online.[i'd buy it far quicker if they did]


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I listened to the first disc last night. The Yale Bowl show is a monster. Writers keep talking about how '71 was a transitional year for the Dead as far as live shows go. Yet it seems as if every '71 show I've heard is, relative to the Dead, bouncy and agressive compared to other tours. I'd have to think '71 shows would be a great springboard for first time Dead fans todive in to see if they like them or not.
I do, however, have a complaint on the packaging for the Road Trips series and for Dead titles since the new regime took over. They have got to start going back to using CD trays again. When the discs are getting packed into these carboard things, there's microdust and some such things getting on these discs because it isn't common for me to have to stop and start the discs repeatedly before I can get them to play properly without skipping around. I have to blow on the discs and inside my player's disc holder in order to clear whatever it is which makes my Dead discs skip when I first get them. It always happens at different spots which indicates dust or packing crap on the playing surface of the disc. When I played Disc 1, I had to blow on the disc about a half dozen times before it finally cleared for me to play it with no skips.


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I have to say, fair play to GDM on this. Not only was the shipping much cheaper than usual, but, despite being in the UK, my set arrived the day before Frederico announced his had arrived, taking less than a week to ship. For an organisation that used to ship expensive and slow, this is a very great improvement! Sadly, the faster shipping is a little wasted on me as I've not yet been able to listen to it.

Maybe I'm getting old or something, I used to have no problem understanding Grateful Dead recording dates and sources, but the whole Hollywood Palladium thing has left me completely confused. If anyone can confirm the following, I'd be very grateful.

I believe the bonus disc material from Hollywood Palladium (8/6/71) is taken from the same show as most of DP35 disc 4, but the source of the material is different, is this correct?

The setlist for this show on http://www.dead.net doesn't list Deal as being played at that show, yet it appears on DP35 disc 4 in the middle of the Hollywood Palladium material. Does anyone know whether this an error in the setlist or an error on DP35?

Is the Hard To Handle from the same show the same as the Hard To Handle that appears on Fallout From The Phil Zone from an audience recording?

As I said, if anyone can shed any light on this it'll be much appreciated.


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The Hard To Handle's from the same show but it's from a soundboard source this time.


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I am looking forward to this release. I am hoping I'll have it by the weekend - good material while working in the garden.

On a quasi-related note: I realized I did not have Pure Jerry 7 - which was released how long ago??. So I go to order. The two disc set is $15.95 (not bad at all); and in June, if you buy any music from the website, they'll throw in "Shining Star" - a very nice comp of live material - and something from the Jerry Grab Bag. I have Shining Star, so I thought, a nice gift for the holidays.
But when it came to shipping, the cheapest they had was $12.75 (actually two types of shipping for that price). I had to call and confirm, and yes, that was the cheapest (I know I paid much less in the past). They lost a sale. I'll check in July, and see if they drop the 'freebies" and the price...but I can't justify paying that kind of money for shipping. Its criminal.


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Re Hollywood Palladium:

For many years, all that circulated of this show was the incredible-sounding audience source - that tape supplied the recording of Hard To Handle on Fallout From The Phil Zone in 1997.

In 2005, the "Houseboat Tapes" turned up (the stash of material loaned to Keith Godchaux in 1971, and found by his brother in a clearance) - amongst this material was the soundboard of Set 2 of Hollywood Palladium, with the Other One through the end of the show making up the bulk of disc 4 of Dick's Picks 35. Interestingly, because of some missing drums before The Other One, the master copy of the audience recording supplied the first few minutes of this sequence, before being returned to its' owners.

At that time, the soundboard of Set 1 of Hollywood Palladium was still missing in action (as was all of Yale Bowl, which itself was believed wiped or unrecorded, following discovery of blank reels for this show in the houseboat).

Then last year a further batch of Summer '71 soundboard tapes were returned to the GD's custody - the full story of where these tapes had been hasn't yet been told but, amongst them, was all of Yale Bowl and Set 1 of Hollywood Palladium. This second discovery forms the basis of Road Trips No 1 Volume 3 - five songs from the newly-discovered soundboard of Set 1 of Hollywood Palladium are featured on the bonus disc.

Hope this summarises things - Federico: have I missed anything? :wink: :D


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You said it much better than I could have :thumbsup:

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I received all three today, and though I've only had a chance to sample them, they sound terrific. I really like having the chance to sample the band's sound from individual tours. These are definitely worth picking up.

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