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 Post subject: Marvel Comics unleashes a new universe of superheroes
PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:46 pm 
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Reboot? All universes smashing together into one? Interesting. Marvel's never really done this before.


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Horrible idea.


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 Post subject: Marvel Comics unleashes a new universe of superheroes
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Do Marvel and DC have regular creative meetings together where they share upcoming events and story lines?


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 Post subject: Marvel Comics unleashes a new universe of superheroes
PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:53 pm 
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Alonso said he thinks "Secret Wars" will be a great jumping-on point for new fans.


And a great jumping-off point for old fans!

Depends how it all comes out in the wash.

I'm still not reading any DC books anymore.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:57 pm 
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Alonso said he thinks "Secret Wars" will be a great jumping-on point for new fans.


And a great jumping-off point for old fans!


That's how I felt about Crisis on Infinite Earths. It was as if DC was telling me, "You don't have to compulsively buy all our books anymore. We're going to end every storyline at once, AND we'll stop publishing new storylines involving these characters."


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 Post subject: Marvel Comics unleashes a new universe of superheroes
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I don't mind the addition of other characters- it's the deletion that bothers me.


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Junkie Luv wrote:
Horrible idea.

So just like every other time The Big 2 have pulled the same worn out stunt.


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I'm okay with this. I really won't impact what I buy. If something looks interesting, I grab it, but I am no longer pulled by the soap opera aspect where I need to read every single issue.

I do hope it isn't a "from scratch" reboot, but really is a merging of the universes where some aspects are kept and others are thrown out. I hope it allows for ignoring some of the most awful retcons by simply never mentioning them again. And I hope it creates a world where Stilt Man is a credible threat once again.

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Were DC's "New 52" sales significant enough to make Marvel copy from their playbook?

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 Post subject: Marvel Comics unleashes a new universe of superheroes
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So basically making movie/Ultimate earth the new Marvel.


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 Post subject: Marvel Comics unleashes a new universe of superheroes
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So the parallel that emerges is DC does huge, linewide adjustments to continuity by variations of it's mid-80's Crisis series, with variations of the word "Crisis" and the involvement of the Monitors.

Marvel does the same thing, only with its mid-80's series Secret Wars and presumably the involvement of the Beyonder.

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So basically making movie/Ultimate earth the new Marvel.


Well, yeah.


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 Post subject: Marvel Comics unleashes a new universe of superheroes
PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:03 pm 
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If the new Universe that results had NO Spider-Man, no Hulk, no Captain America, no Avengers, no X-Men, no Guardians of the Galaxy, no Inhumans, no Big Hero 6 ---- I might believe this stunt.

But we all know that's not going to happen. All the heroes that still make money for Marvel Comics/Disney or who are not tied up in a bitter fight with a rival studio will be in the new Universe. So all of this will be just a reboot.

At one time at iMWAN or another comic book message board, I didn't mind reboots. But now it seems to me like a desperate attention-getting ploy. In other words, wake me up when this is all over.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:05 pm 
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RobertSwanderson wrote:
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So basically making movie/Ultimate earth the new Marvel.


Well, yeah.


You mean this is all just a stunt to turn Nick Fury from an ageless WWII veteran to an aging Samuel L. Jackson in the comics?

I assume that in this new universe, there will be no Hank Pym. If a character like Janet Van Dyne as The Wasp emerges, she will be the love interest of Scott Pym thanks to the new movie?


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 Post subject: Marvel Comics unleashes a new universe of superheroes
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It would explain why they "rid" Nick Fury, Sr. in Original Sin.


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 Post subject: Marvel Comics unleashes a new universe of superheroes
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These poor artists now have to switch from drawing their stock faces to drawing likenesses of Hollywood actors.


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 Post subject: Marvel Comics unleashes a new universe of superheroes
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I too think that the movieverse will become the new norm. It's already been happening in bits and pieces.


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 Post subject: Marvel Comics unleashes a new universe of superheroes
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I also assume that Bruce Banner will be given a more heroic origin than in the Ultimates Universe. Nothing against Mark Millar, but if they are tying the comics to the movies, I don't think the Hulk is going to be a cannibal, and Bruce will not have experimented on himself because he "wanted to be big."

But on the other hand, I think we're going to see the "gamma bomb origin" go bye-bye. Banner will simply be a physicist trying to use gamma radiation to activate a prototype of the Captain America WWII Super Soldier serum, and his experiment will go tragically wrong, probably as Banner is trying to save somebody. (But that somebody will more likely be Betty rather than Rick Jones.) The other origins will mostly adhere to what we see in the movies. (If we've seen them in the movies, I don't know if they'll retell them again in the comics.)


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Marvel would be dumb to start monkeying around with origins and other canon. I think the changes will be more superficial.


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