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 Post subject: Mythos - captain America - loved it!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:02 am 
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Wow, this book had me in tears at the end. Very moving indeed. I wish they had made bucky a little more Brubaker and less traditional but I suspect many will be happier he was portrayed the way he was. I urge all Cap fans to buy this book! :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:21 am 
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Just thought this book was worth a bump. Here is a link that also includes a promo 'movie'. One thing I will add though is that the promo does not, is that this book has a nice focus on Steve Roger's regiment and what being a part of that regiment still means to him in the present(ish) day.

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories ... railer_Now


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 Post subject: Mythos - captain America - loved it!
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Is this a limited series, a one-shot? The site didn't really say. I saw something in the trailer about "the mythos series", but I'd never heard of that before now. Are the other stories any good?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:50 am 
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Mythos is a series of tales told about the various major characters that takes the essence of the characters and tells their origins. It may combine elements from the comics, movies, cartoons, whatever, in the steamlined retelling.


I liked it a lot EXCEPT twice the use of the word "communists" took me out of the story.

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I enjoyed it, didn't really add much to the story for me. I also feel the use of "the communists" was a tad out of character.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:49 am 
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It's a good primer to give people, I felt, on the character

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 Post subject: Mythos - captain America - loved it!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:14 pm 
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I thought the the communists bit was a riff on Captain America not buying into the evil commies idea as much as the government of the time wanted us to feel them to be. He liked some of the people anyway if not the ideology. Although this origin story was an often told tale, I really was moved by his identification with his old unit. this for me at least was a new and worthy add on to his history. I especially found the final scene very moving ideed.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:20 pm 
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Except internationally, they killed more people than Hitler.

It was just odd. "We were evicted. and then the communists helped us move back in." "we were evicted, and then the American Nazi party helped us move back in" :)

Seemed more like Jenkins politics than Caps. I forget the second line about it.

I guess my point is communism wasn't even relevant to the story at all. There was no need for the lines at all.

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John Webb wrote:
I thought the the communists bit was a riff on Captain America not buying into the evil commies idea as much as the government of the time wanted us to feel them to be. He liked some of the people anyway if not the ideology.


I have no patience with this insistence that Captain America was not (or would not have been if he hadn't been frozen) worried about Communists. There is not, was not, and never has been a "good" or "likable" Communist. It's every bit as much of an oxymoron as "good Nazi." If Cap had been around and active in the 1950s he would no doubt have been concerned about some of the McCarthyist extremes, but he would have been very concerned about Communism as a global threat. And quite rightly so.

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DL. This is the original Cap he missed out on the 50's, 60's and I guess with Marvel time the 70's and 80's. I assume for the most part he would have seen them as allies. Your argument is flawed anyway. To some extent you could choose to be a Nazi (even then the pressure to conform would have been huge). When it comes to being a communist you had very little choice in the matter. Being good or bad as a human being is another matter entirely for most USSR citizens.


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It just seemed irrelevant, so it seemed like Jenkins was making a political point. A point that took me out of the story.

Now, if he had made something out of us being allies with Stalin and then waking up and finding out about the Cold War, that may have been interesting.

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Why do you hate Captain American John? :p

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I agree to an extent with what you are saying. One mention would have been an interesting little add on. Two mentions made me think "where is he going with this". All in all though it did not dectact from what were for me th stongest elements of the story.


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It was good. Perfect to give someone who wants to know "Who is Captain America?"

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I thought it was the best thing I've read all year.

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That meddlin kid wrote:
There is not, was not, and never has been a "good" or "likable" Communist. It's every bit as much of an oxymoron as "good Nazi."


Oh, that's just nonsense. Even leaving aside the fact that you're judging millions of individuals who may have identified themselves as Communists based on the actions of those in power in the Soviet Union, I'm sure, for example, that at least one of the Soviets that liberated Auschwitz was "good" or "likable".

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 Post subject: Mythos - captain America - loved it!
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Monk wrote:
That meddlin kid wrote:
There is not, was not, and never has been a "good" or "likable" Communist. It's every bit as much of an oxymoron as "good Nazi."


Oh, that's just nonsense. Even leaving aside the fact that you're judging millions of individuals who may have identified themselves as Communists based on the actions of those in power in the Soviet Union, I'm sure, for example, that at least one of the Soviets that liberated Auschwitz was "good" or "likable".


True. Some fascists/nazis were peaches too.

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