the following ten heroes the vast vast vast majority of the time:

Superman (its possible soley if Superman is an idiot)
Iron Man (unless he's drunk)
Mr. Fantastic
Green Lantern (all of them, even the chipmunk)
Flash (even the lamest one)
Thor
Hulk (shut up Twitch)
Dr. Strange
Wolverine
Martian Manhunter

In some cases, he would not even be able to take a breath before being beat.

He would almost always beat Hawkeye and NFL Superpro.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar, a communist dupe, and loves Hitler's mother.

off.

Batman beats everyone.

Even God.

Thus answering the age old question, can an omnipotent God create a Batman that can beat him.

If given enough time to prepare, Batman could beat them all.

How much preparation does he need?

11.7 seconds.

About 8 to 10 pages.

Captain America. I know they always have a tie whenever there's a Marvel/DC crossover, but they're just being diplomatic to fans.

Yeah...to Marvel fans! Batman would beat Cap.

Preparation H?

Let's be clear - Captain America always beats Batman because, you know, he's Cap.

But Batman beats everyone else.

Cap beats Batman 65 out of 100 times.

Not because he's Cap.

Because he's a better fighter.

Batman can beat many people. But not the powerful people they always says he can.

Captain America always beats Batman.

And...

Given enough time to prepare, Batman can beat everyone.

Except Cap.

That's it.

End of discussion.

Now just jump in your pedal car and pedal yourself home.

That's stupid and no fun.

All heroes always win in their books.

But this obsession Batman fans have with his "invincibility" is why Batman has gone from my top 2 or 3 heroes, to the scrap heap/

It's annoying as hell.

This again? No.
Batman: trained with the best in the world in every fighting technique from the age of 9. So, that's 20 years of training and experience.
Cap: Took a serum, got physically fit. Trained with some basic fighting techniques and used them for a few years, then was frozen in ice. Assuming he's also 29, he's got 11 years experience, tops, with part of that spent in training, none before turning 18. The super soldier serum doesn't make Cap super strong, it makes him the peak of human physicality, just like Bruce Wayne manually did to himself. Being physical equals, Bruce Wayne's experience and skill trumps Cap. It's close, but he wins 75% of the time at least.

He's not "invincible". But he beats a lot of people that Marvel fanboys wouldn't like to imagine, and therein lies your problem.

No, he also beats Superman, Wonder Woman, the Spectre, Darkseid and all sorts of ridiculousness, of people who he couldn't even take a step in their direction before he was done.

Cap's the peak in human ability in EVERYTHING. You can't train to be the peak in everything from strength to agility to speed, to reflexes, etc. You either are born with the capability or you're not. You can train to be better in all. You can't train to be the best in all.

Batman also did not start training with fighters at 9. He left later. Heck, in the orginal version and for decades he didn't train with anyone

Batman was a wonderful creation until his fans ruined him. "prep time" "he cheats" "he's batman"

So what? He's a highly trained man. That's it.

First of all, it would take well over 20 years to master every fighting technique in the entire world. That's just idiotic.

As for powers, here goeshis physical abilities from Wiki--



I've always understood that all of Cap's abilities are the peak of human potential-- his strength, speed, etc.

That's virtually impossible for any man to train to-- for example, the world's strongest man doesn't look anything like the world's fastest man-- you need a drastically different body type to lift 800 lbs. or so than to run a 4 minute mile.

Furthermore, Batman's abilities would be limited to the potentials of Wayne's genetics-- meanwhile, Cap's abilties are the full potential of humankind.

Finally, Cap has also trained with masters from around the world and has been shown beating the best masters from around the world. Training in and of itself is not going to make anyone the best fighter on Earth-- you can have a guy who's only trained in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu beat a guy who's trained in a dozen different martial arts. Adeptness and physical ability are bigger factors than training by itself.

Yes and yes. The fact that he never really gets tired is a major factor.

But batman is a scientist, is smarter, has more weapons, so i thought winning more than a 1/3 of the time was a decent amount.

It's pretty apparent to me, Gen. Steinbrenner, that Jeff does indeed think that "A" stands for France.