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Italian Stallion vs 007
Rocky Balboa 16%  16%  [ 7 ]
James Bond 83%  83%  [ 36 ]
Total votes : 43
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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:53 am 
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Rocky Balboa

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Rocky: You stop this fight, I'll kill ya'!

Rocky: Cut me, Mick.

Clubber Lang: I'm the baddest man in the world.
Rocky Balboa: You don't look so bad to me.

Rocky Balboa: You ain't so bad, you ain't so bad, you ain't nothin'. C'mon, champ, hit me in the face! My mom hits harder than you!

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James Bond: Weren't you a blonde when I came in?
Tiffany Case: Could be.
James Bond: I tend to notice little things like that - whether a girl is a blonde or a brunette.
Tiffany Case: Which do you prefer?
James Bond: Well, as long as the collar and cuffs match...

Pussy Galore: [pointing a gun at Bond, who has just emerged from the airplane lavatory] We'll be landing in twenty minutes. Do you want to play it easy, or the hard way? And this isn't a tranquilizer gun.
James Bond: Now, Pussy, you know a lot more about planes than guns. That's a Smith and Wesson 45, and if you fire at me at this close range, the bullet will pass through me and the fuselage like a blowtorch through butter. The cabin will depressurize, and we'll both be sucked into outer space together. If that's how you want to enter the United States, you're welcome. As for me, I prefer the easy way.


Can the Italian Stallion defeat 007?? Voting goes until Sunday night.


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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:10 am 
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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:41 am 
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The mans' name is Bond, James Bond, and I don't care how much of a beating Rocky can take, James will kill him.

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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:02 am 
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Wow. an odd set up, two characters who exist in two completely different worlds. Kudos for avoiding the more obvious Rocky v. Rambo.

James Bond would obviously kill Rocky.

But to me, that's not the only measure of a tough guy. A tough guy doesn't stop fighting no matter if he's being beat, no matter what the odds, and even if he loses. Rocky may not be as powerful as Bond, but he's like the Thing is-he never quits. and that's why I'd vote for the Thing as one of the top comic tough guys even though there are many that could mop the floor with him, and that's why I vote Rocky.

I'll be the only one to do so, but screw it :)

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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
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You won't be the only one. Part of being a tough guy, (besides the swagger, which Bond has in spades) is being set up as an underdog and overcoming those overwhelming odds. Rock is the best at this, I never thought Bond could lose. Thats why Rock gets my vote.


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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:58 am 
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Bond should have lost to Bruce Lee, but he would destroy Rocky.

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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:58 am 
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007. He'll knock ya inta tomorrow, Rock.


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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
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In fisticuffs, Rocky in no time flat.
But if JB gets his hands on his laser watch, or the ballpoint pistol in his jacket pocket, ot that urine specimen on the lab table over there, Rocky's had it.
Besides, He's a 00


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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:59 pm 
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Hugh wrote:
In fisticuffs, Rocky in no time flat.


I don't know about that. In a boxing ring, sure, it'd be Rocky. But an actual fight? No gloves, no rules? Martial arts expertise probably trumps boxing expertise.


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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
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Rocky is a fighter.

Bond is a killer.

Bond wins.


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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:39 pm 
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I voted for Rocky.


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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:14 pm 
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As long as it's a sanctioned boxing match, Rocky wins. I'm going to assume we're talking about a boxing match.


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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:30 pm 
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Frank L. Sisko wrote:
Hugh wrote:
In fisticuffs, Rocky in no time flat.


I don't know about that. In a boxing ring, sure, it'd be Rocky. But an actual fight? No gloves, no rules? Martial arts expertise probably trumps boxing expertise.


Rocky beat Hulk Hogan in a no-holds-barred match. Rocky beat Tommy Gun so badly in a no-holds-barred match that Tommy-G got AIDS. Rocky would beat Bond in any sort of fight (yes, even a gun fight, though you might have to explain to Rocky how the gun works, depending on what 'era' of Rocky we're chosing from).

Rocky single-handedly won the Cold War. Did Bond do that? No, I don't think so.

You people voting for Bond are wrong. You're all wrong!


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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:37 pm 
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The question isn't who's more deadly, it's who's tougher. They don't come a hell of a lot tougher then Rocky.

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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:40 pm 
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Exactly. Toughness is not who can kill the other, necessarily. It's an attitude, a personality, an inner strength of will, and determination, fighting against overwhelming odds, the ability to succeed in the situation one is thrust into, that kind of thing.


I personally am not voting simply on who could beat who in a fight to the death, since (1) I don't believe the polls are meant to be that and (2) you can't compare the different universes so well.

I mean, Superman could beat anyone, just about. I wouldn't necessarily call him the ultimate tough guy though,

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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
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Frank L. Sisko wrote:
007. He'll knock ya inta tomorrow, Rock.


Ah, his lungs he's gonna punch out.


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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
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Rob Steinbrenner wrote:
I mean, Superman could beat anyone, just about. I wouldn't necessarily call him the ultimate tough guy though,


Right. That honor goes to Frank Stallone. ::done in best Norm MacDonald voice::


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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
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Rob Steinbrenner wrote:
Exactly. Toughness is not who can kill the other, necessarily. It's an attitude, a personality, an inner strength of will, and determination, fighting against overwhelming odds, the ability to succeed in the situation one is thrust into, that kind of thing.


That's what I'm talking about, Rob. Being a tough guy is different from being deadly.

Take Jack Burton, from Big Trouble in Little China. I doubt he would beat any of the guys from the first round, but he's a perfect example of a tough guy.

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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:20 pm 
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You guys keep bringing up the point that Rocky doesn't give up when the chips are down, but when has Bond ever given in? He's outlasted torture on numerous occasions; in Die Another Day he lasted through fourteen months of Korean torture and never cracked! Even as recent as Casino Royale, he took severe injury, near mutilation in fact, to the most sensitive part of a man's body...and laughed in the face of his captor! He's beaten Jaws, Red Grant, Oddjob, Baron Samedi, Xenia Onatopp...and that's just a few of the times he's faced hopeless odds from greater opponents and triumphed.
Yeah, he's a killer, but he's also tough. Tougher in this case. Why do I say that? Let's look at circumstances. When Rocky has to fight, what is he fighting for? A title? Face? Respect? James Bond, however, is fighting for his life, the life of his current love interest, and, often, the lives of millions, nay, billions of others. He knows that he is facing insurmountable odds and rushes in head-first anyway.
To me, James Bond is the clear winner in this challenge. Bond doesn't look like a "tough guy", but I guaran-damn-tee that he can take anything Rocky can take, and more, and still come out on top.


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Bond has the advantage of a whole nation behind him, the greatest gadgets minds can come up with, and never to me has seemed like an underdog. Never have i thought "I wonder how he'll get out of this." He's a superhero in a relatively normal world.

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 Post subject: IMWAN's Ultimate Movie Tough Guy Challenge: Round 2 Match 4 Rocky Balboa vs James Bond
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James Bond is tough, but we've never seen him endure a 45 minute beating like Rocky has. I do love 007. How dare Mahooney put two of my top five favorite characters against each other like this!


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