Music legends Led Zeppelin, James Brown, Prince, Brian Wilson, Rod Stewart, Dusty Springfield, Bon Jovi and former Beatles producer George Martin were inducted into the UK Music Hall of Fame Tuesday night.
At a ceremony at London's Alexandra Palace, Prince, Brown, Beach Boys songwriter Wilson and rockers Bon Jovi performed some of their greatest hits.
Joss Stone and Patti LaBelle paid tribute to Springfield, who died of cancer in 1999, by performing songs from her back catalogue.
Martin - widely regarded as the "fifth Beatle - was honored by Queen drummer Roger Taylor, Razorlight singer Johnny Borrell, soul star Corinne Bailey Rae and Jose Gonzalez, who performed Beatles tracks alongside an orchestra and gospel choir conducted by Martin.
I can't remember if it was at this ceremony or not, but I both read and listened to comments yesterday from Jimmy Page that he's hankering to work on a new album of material and that there are a couple of Led Zeppelin projects being worked on.
Second, £6.4million? If they actually played together under the Zeppelin moniker, such a tour would easily make ten times that amount.
Third, Page might be able to pull it off and I know Jones could, but I don't think Plant has the range to do a lot of the material justice. Don't get me wrong - he's still got pipes, and I'm a big supporter of his ongoing solo work, but in the end time catches us all...
Third, Page might be able to pull it off and I know Jones could, but I don't think Plant has the range to do a lot of the material justice. Don't get me wrong - he's still got pipes, and I'm a big supporter of his ongoing solo work, but in the end time catches us all...
I'm more concerned with Page then Plant. To my ears something went wrong with his playing soon after Zeppelin broke up & it never really came back.
I'd take this thing with a grain of salt. If somebody like one one of the U.S. wire services or Rolling Stone online reports this, then I'd say there was more legitimacy to this report. It would really be nice if it was true. Sadly, for a great number of us, the ticket prices will probably go through the roof if it came to pass.
I'm more concerned with Page then Plant. To my ears something went wrong with his playing soon after Zeppelin broke up & it never really came back.
I agree. When they reunited in 1988 for the 40th anniversary of Atlantic Records, it was shocking the extent to which Page's playing had appeared to deteriorate. While I always respected Zeppelin's decision to disband following the death of John Bonham, Jason Bonham is a more than adequate replacement--I saw the band Bonham at a nightclub in Florida in 1990 and he was incredible.
I remember hearing the Page/Plant reunion disc back in the mid-90's, but it didn't do much for me.
I'm more concerned with Page then Plant. To my ears something went wrong with his playing soon after Zeppelin broke up & it never really came back.
I agree. When they reunited in 1988 for the 40th anniversary of Atlantic Records, it was shocking the extent to which Page's playing had appeared to deteriorate.
Oh, I'd agree with that...I still recall cringing. We were watching on board the USS Kansas City, and there were many folks were obviously aware of LZ, but not overly familiar, and when Zep hit the stage the others were looking at us die hards as a bunch of fools. I always dismissed it thinking they simply did not put much effort in preparation. Plant's set rocked.
I did think Page held his own with the Black Crowes on their recent collaboration though
That was basically my point... I think if Page is focused and in a healthy surrounding environment that he can still bring the goods. No, you're not going to get the Jimmy Page of 35 years ago, but you'd probably see a lot better than the various one-offs mentioned above.
Plant, on the other hand, would be more limited in performing vintage Zep night after night. I noticed on the Dreamland tour how much the wear and tear was catching up to him.
If this is actually true I'd definitely go see them. I saw Plant/Page when they toured together and they were incredible. It's not going to sound like Zeppelin of 30 years ago, but I wouldn't expect it to.
Do Led Zeppelin really need more money this bad? Although, I know this stupid law having been in a band for years and played many clubs, it's just another loser witch hunt by the ASCAP. I love that they PAY people to spy in stores for God's sake to catch people listening to a song without paying fees! I have a tip- I was in a 7-11 tonight and heard a Christopher Cross song-should I inform the spys?Read this article and you'll probably get angry. And, I do know that a tribute band has to be accounted for financially, but this is just crazy! And the music industry continues to wonder why people feel like stealing music is OK.
Cover band lawsuit settled for $40,000 Vail club owner should have known about licensing fee, band’s manager says
Steve Lynn Glenwood Springs, CO Colorado May 3, 2007
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VAIL — A former local club owner reached a $40,000 settlement Wednesday with several famous musicians who sued him for allowing cover bands to play their songs at 8150.
Steven Kovacik, former owner of 8150, called the settlement unfair.
“I don’t think it’s fair for one show, are you crazy?” Kovacik said.
Van Halen Music Company and Led Zeppelin’s Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Paul Jones and Patricia Bonham were all named as plaintiffs in a lawsuit filed Feb. 16 that contended Kovacik allowed public performances of their songs at 8150. The lawsuit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in Colorado, named Kovacik as a defendant.
Bands like Lez Zeppelin, an all-female Led Zeppelin cover band who played 8150 Jan. 15, 2006, should be held responsible for copyright infringement, Kovacik said.
“The band is touring, making money off of Led Zeppelin’s music,” he said. “Why should I be the one responsible to pay when Lez Zeppelin is the one playing the music?”
That’s not how the law works, said Alan Stewart, manager for Lez Zeppelin.
If stores or concert venues publicly play songs registered with the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers — even on a stereo — they have to pay a licensing fee, he said.
“The club owner should know that,” Stewart said. “He is just trying to spin the story. It’s a little bit easier for them to point to Lez Zeppelin, but they could point to any number of bands on their calendar.”
ASCAP employs representatives to travel to malls and concert venues to look for those breaking the law and the organization sues hundreds around the country each week, he said.
8150 has closed. Kovacik’s lease expired and the building will be torn down to make way for the Solaris complex, he said.
Kovacik has refused to accept a license offered to him many times by ASCAP, said Richard Reimer, an attorney for the organization.
Kovacik said ASCAP never offered him a license. If it did, he would have paid the $5,000 dollars for one to avoid litigation, he said.
“Do you think I would have let this go on for that long?” Kovacik said. “I’m not a complete and utter idiot.”
Kovacik committed copyright infringement because he allowed bands to play 10 copyrighted songs Jan. 15 and 16, 2006, at 8150, the lawsuit says.
The plaintiffs were suing for as little as $750 per song and as much as $30,000 per song, plus attorneys’ fees, according to court documents.
Kovacik allowed public performances of songs such as “Heartbreaker,” “Whole Lotta Love,” “Rock and Roll” and “Black Dog,” written by Jimmy Page, Robert Plant and other members of Led Zeppelin; “Hot for Teacher,” written by Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth of Van Halen; and “You Shook Me all Night” written by AC/DC members Angus Young and Malcolm Young, according to the lawsuit.
The defendants failed to obtain a license agreement from the plaintiffs or ASCAP, according to the lawsuit’s final judgment.
Public venues that play ASCAP registered songs, which number in the millions, need to pay an annual fee for a license to do so.
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And the music industry continues to wonder why people feel like stealing music is OK.
This is a bizarre comment. If the music industry really wanted to send a message that stealing music is OK, they wouldn't act to protect their copyrights.
And the music industry continues to wonder why people feel like stealing music is OK.
This is a bizarre comment. If the music industry really wanted to send a message that stealing music is OK, they wouldn't act to protect their copyrights.
I'm assuming that I.P. is implying that ASCAP's actions were so deplorable and unethical that people would likely feel justified in stealing from "them." However, IP might be confusing the RIAA and ASCAP. The RIAA's jurisdiction is RECORDED music (and their ethics are questionable at best.) However, ASCAP's concern is songwriters. If a radio station plays the Beatles' recording of "Rock n Roll Music," the RIAA is concerned about the Beatles' interests while ASCAP worries about Chuck Berry's interests (since he composed the song.) Yeah, it seems like a lot of people with their hands out, but that's how composers earn a living and ASCAP was in the right.
Sounds to me like the club owner didn't do his homework before opening his club. (Or, he was just taking the chance that he would never get caught.)
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This is a bizarre comment. If the music industry really wanted to send a message that stealing music is OK, they wouldn't act to protect their copyrights.
Jon Tyler is right-I was making a comment on why the public feels it's OK to steal music, and that when they read something like this, it only justifies it in their minds. And, yes, CBK, club owners are supposed to pay a fee (I forget what is, it's a decent chunk of change, maybe $4000 or so a year, I'm not sure), so you are correct. That is something I've always known. We were an original band, but whenever we played covers, it was on the owners if they got caught and hadn't paid that fee. And, Jon, I am aware of the difference, I just think the ASCAP is in a similar vein to the RIAA in these idiotic rules and regulations. But, I thank you for pointing that out, because I may not have made that too clear. Either way, $30,000 a song seems just a tad ridiculous! Here, the club owner got caught, but he is right in that this was completely out of line. I'm sure Jimmy, Robert and John and the Bonhams can sleep easier now.
_________________ "We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."—College Basketball player Weldon Drew
Perhaps this will inspire more bands to write and perform original music.
If these bands are good enough to play other peoples music, then they
should take the next step, and create some of their own.
Rumors of a long awaited Led Zeppelin reunion are stronger than ever... It's looking like the one-off memorial show for Ahmet Ertegun is going to happen... but a world tour may also follow...
Since I've always been a HUGE fan, I have regretted never getting around to seeing them live - either during their years together as a band, or in the context of Page and Plant touring as a duo. I would jump at the opportunity, as long as ticket prices don't get too ridiculously expensive.
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