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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:35 pm |
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Name the single artist who draws your favorite version of a comic book character or team,the one that you consider definitive. One rule-- no duplications. Knowing this crowd,you all would name John Byrne for everything. Superman---Curt Swan Batman------Neal Adams Flash----Carmine Infantino Green Lantern----Gil Kane Hawkman----Joe Kubert Aquaman-----Nick Cardy Sub-Mariner-----Bill Everett Justice League-----Kevin Maguire Legion of Super-Heroes---Jeff Moy Spider-Man----Steve Ditko Captain America-----Jack Kirby Thor-----Walter Simonson Iron Man------Bob Layton Avengers---John Buscema X-Men------Paul Smith Daredevil----Frank Miller The Shadow---Michael Kaluta Plastic Man-----Jack Cole Captain Marvel---C.C. Beck The Spirit---Will Eisner The Thing---John Byrne
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:47 pm |
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If the rule is no duplicates, then I can't do Batman, Atom, LOSH, etc.  Superman---Curt Swan Flash----Carmine Infantino Green Lantern----Gil Kane Hawkman----Murphy Anderson Justice League-----Mike Sekowsky Spider-Man----Steve Ditko Captain America-----Marcus Kelligrew Thor-----Walter Simonson Iron Man------Don Heck Daredevil-----Wally Wood Fantastic Four-----Jack Kirby Superboy-----George Papp Lois Lane-----Kurt Schaffenberger Metal Men-----Ross Andru Doom Patrol-----Bruno Premiani Justice Society-----Jerry Ordway Booster Gold-----Dan Jurgens Archie (all characters)-----Harry Lucey
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:48 pm |
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OH, this looks so hard, and will require much thought...
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:01 am |
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Hmmm... Howard the Duck - Gene Colan Conan The Barbarian - John Buscema Flash - Carmine Infantino Spider-Man - John Romita Snr. Batman - Brian Bolland Fantastic Four - Jack Kirby Infinity Inc. - Jerry Ordway Thor - Ron Frenz Hulk - Herb Trimpe Superman - Curt Swan Iron-Man - George Tuska Tigra - Marie Severin Werewolf by Night - Mike Ploog Moon Knight - Don Perlin Wonder Woman - George Perez Man-Thing - Val Mayerik ...I'm sure I'll think of some others. 
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:27 am |
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Linda wrote: If the rule is no duplicates, then I can't do Batman, Atom, LOSH, etc.  Superman---Curt Swan Flash----Carmine Infantino Green Lantern----Gil Kane Hawkman----Murphy Anderson Justice League-----Mike Sekowsky Spider-Man----Steve Ditko Captain America-----Marcus Kelligrew Thor-----Walter Simonson Iron Man------Don Heck Daredevil-----Wally Wood Fantastic Four-----Jack Kirby Superboy-----George Papp Lois Lane-----Kurt Schaffenberger Metal Men-----Ross Andru Doom Patrol-----Bruno Premiani Justice Society-----Jerry Ordway Booster Gold-----Dan Jurgens Archie (all characters)-----Harry Lucey Wait! What!? I don’t deserve that. Thank you.
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:46 am |
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Sticking to mostly Silver and Bronze Age for mine:
Batman: Neal Adams Superman: Curt Swan Wonder Woman: H. G. Peter Green Lantern: Gil Kane Hawkman: Joe Kubert Green Arrow: Mike Grell Flash: Carmen Infantino Batgirl: Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez Teen Titans: George Perez Plastic Man: Jack Cole The Spirit: Will Eisner Uncle Scrooge: Carl Barks Avengers: Sal Buscema X-Men: John Byrne Iron Man: Bob Layton Captain America: Jim Steranko Spider-Man: John Romita Sr. Dr. Strange: Steve Ditko Hulk: Herb Tripe Namor: Bill Everett Daredevil: Wally Wood Thor: John Buscema Fantastic Four: Jack Kirby Ant-Man: P. Craig Russell Conan: Barry Smith Dracula: Gene Colan
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:48 am |
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:02 pm |
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This turned out to be easier than I thought, really. The hardest character for me to pick was definitely Batman. Adams, Rogers, Aparo, Byrne, Moldoff. So many iconic artists on Bats
I chose Cockrum over Grell for LSH because of the costume redesigns, mainly.
The other thing about thinking about this is just how many other great runs / secondary characters this list of artists is responsible for. I'm not going to do it, but statistically thinking, it's possible that these 20 artists are accountable for 1/4 of all comics in both companies between Showcase #4, and Crisis on Infinite Earths 12, and certainly almost all of the memorable runs on the main titles. 12 titles per month per company times 28 years = 8,064 issues, roughly. And all of these men certainly drew more than 100 issues across all their books in that time. So remove these men, and I'd be curious to see what the best runs left actually are.
Superman - Curt Swan Batman - Jim Aparo Justice League of America - Dick Dillin Green Arrow - Neal Adams Green Lantern - Gil Kane Flash - Carmine Infantino Aquaman - Nick Cardy Teen Titans - George Perez Legion of Superheroes - Dave Cockrum Sgt. Rock - Joe Kubert Hawkman - Murphy Anderson
Fantastic Four - Jack Kirby The Avengers - Big John Buscema Thor - Walt Simonson Iron Man - Bob Layton X-men - John Byrne Daredevil - Frank Miller Spider-Man - John Romita Sr. Dr. Strange - Steve Ditko Conan - Barry Windsor Smith
Hulk Wonder Woman (Perez or Byrne again?) Captain America (didn't really like Kirby on him, but can't think of another iconic run) Atom (this would be Anderson, I think)
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:23 pm |
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It's tricky not repeating artists but it does make you think about it all in a different way.
The Atom - Gil Kane
The Avengers - Alan Weiss
Dr. Strange - Geof Isherwood
X-Men - Neal Adams
Wolverine - Barry Windsor-Smith
Elfquest - Wendy Pini
Red Sonja - Frank Thorne
Captain Carrot - Ross Andru
Thunderbunny - Brian Buniak
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:55 pm |
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Jason Gore wrote: Superman - Curt Swan Batman - Jim Aparo Justice League of America - Dick Dillin Green Arrow - Neal Adams Green Lantern - Gil Kane Flash - Carmine Infantino Aquaman - Nick Cardy Teen Titans - George Perez Legion of Superheroes - Dave Cockrum Sgt. Rock - Joe Kubert Hawkman - Murphy Anderson
Fantastic Four - Jack Kirby The Avengers - Big John Buscema Thor - Walt Simonson Iron Man - Bob Layton X-men - John Byrne Daredevil - Frank Miller Spider-Man - John Romita Sr. Dr. Strange - Steve Ditko Conan - Barry Windsor Smith
That’s a good list. Mine would be very similar.
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:53 pm |
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Yeah, I wanted Gil Kane for The Atom, but I also wanted Gil Kane for Green Lantern. I might be convinced to go with Joe Staton for Green Lantern to free Kane up for The Atom.
Cochrane for Legion of Superheroes is a good choice. I had already used Grell for Green Arrow, but, in hindsight, Grell really should be for Warlord. I could give Green Arrow to George Papp.
Nick Cardy for Aquaman works quite well. I can get behind that choice. That would free up Ramona Fradon for Metamorpho.
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 3:01 pm |
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And if I move more into modern times, I could give Thor to Walt Simonson, which would free up John Buscema for The Silver Surfer, which is where he probably should go.
What we really need is just a definitive list of characters. If DC's Bronze-Age Manhunter were on the list, for example, I might hesitate to give Thor to Walt because who else could you assign to Manhunter? Luckily, though, Manhunter isn't likely to appear on a definitive list of the top comic book characters.
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 3:15 pm |
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Beachy wrote: Yeah, I wanted Gil Kane for The Atom, but I also wanted Gil Kane for Green Lantern. I might be convinced to go with Joe Staton for Green Lantern to free Kane up for The Atom.
Cochrane for Legion of Superheroes is a good choice. I had already used Grell for Green Arrow, but, in hindsight, Grell really should be for Warlord. I could give Green Arrow to George Papp.
Nick Cardy for Aquaman works quite well. I can get behind that choice. That would free up Ramona Fradon for Metamorpho. I'm not sure Staton goes with the spirit of the exercise...saying Joe Staton is the best GL artist when you have Neil Adams and Gil Kane is probably overstating it. So I think you have to make trade offs, so that you're not brining in the 4th or 5th best artist to work on a character I didn't use Grell for GA or LSH, so he can keep Warlord. Which works. for Atom, my canon solution is that the Atom / Hawkman team up was regular enough that I can use Murphy Anderson for both  The biggest open challenges for me are Cap and Hulk. Since Kirby and John Buscema are both out, I don't really know where to go with those two. I didn't read enough, and the most famous artist for me on Hulk is Mcfarlane, and I'm not doing that.
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 3:38 pm |
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I didn't want to list any second choices, so I had to skip a bunch of characters.
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 4:12 pm |
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The thing is, I really like Staton on Green Lantern. It was the only time really that I regularly bought the title. As for Neal Adams, it's weird, but I only like his Green Lantern because he was drawing Green Arrow with him, so I couldn't never pick Neal Adams as a favorite for Green Lantern, but I could for Green Arrow. My first thought for Neal, though, is to assign him to Batman. Those were some of the first comics I was buying new off the shelf.
But, yes, I understand the problem here with my assignments since several characters share their best, real deal artists.
Perhaps a better approach would be to list the artists and then assign the most real-deal character/team for each of them. And if instead of characters, we went by comic book title (as shown on the cover), then we could have Green Lantern/Green Arrow, Atom and Hawkman, etc. together.
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 4:33 pm |
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Jason Gore wrote: Beachy wrote: Yeah, I wanted Gil Kane for The Atom, but I also wanted Gil Kane for Green Lantern. I might be convinced to go with Joe Staton for Green Lantern to free Kane up for The Atom.
Cochrane for Legion of Superheroes is a good choice. I had already used Grell for Green Arrow, but, in hindsight, Grell really should be for Warlord. I could give Green Arrow to George Papp.
Nick Cardy for Aquaman works quite well. I can get behind that choice. That would free up Ramona Fradon for Metamorpho. I'm not sure Staton goes with the spirit of the exercise...saying Joe Staton is the best GL artist when you have Neil Adams and Gil Kane is probably overstating it. So I think you have to make trade offs, so that you're not brining in the 4th or 5th best artist to work on a character I didn't use Grell for GA or LSH, so he can keep Warlord. Which works. for Atom, my canon solution is that the Atom / Hawkman team up was regular enough that I can use Murphy Anderson for both  The biggest open challenges for me are Cap and Hulk. Since Kirby and John Buscema are both out, I don't really know where to go with those two. I didn't read enough, and the most famous artist for me on Hulk is Mcfarlane, and I'm not doing that. You could use Ethan Van Sciver for GL. Jim Steranko, Sal Buscema or Mike Zeck for Cap and Sal, Herb Trimpe or Dale Keown for the Hulk.
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 6:44 pm |
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Dale Keown would be my Hulk pic.
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:08 pm |
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Beachy wrote: The thing is, I really like Staton on Green Lantern. It was the only time really that I regularly bought the title. As for Neal Adams, it's weird, but I only like his Green Lantern because he was drawing Green Arrow with him, so I couldn't never pick Neal Adams as a favorite for Green Lantern, but I could for Green Arrow. My first thought for Neal, though, is to assign him to Batman. Those were some of the first comics I was buying new off the shelf.
But, yes, I understand the problem here with my assignments since several characters share their best, real deal artists.
Perhaps a better approach would be to list the artists and then assign the most real-deal character/team for each of them. And if instead of characters, we went by comic book title (as shown on the cover), then we could have Green Lantern/Green Arrow, Atom and Hawkman, etc. together. Lots of us cheated by using team books, and then members in their solo books with other artists. But going by the cover title could also work. I was more concerned about seeing if I could find iconic runs for all the iconic artists There were a couple of artists where I did them first. Kirby, Adams, Ditko, Byrne. all had multiple iconic runs, while others crop up on lots of different books doing great work, but they never stuck long enough to be iconic. Linda wrote: I didn't want to list any second choices, so I had to skip a bunch of characters. I get this - it's why some of my favourite books (Kirby's DC run) don't get mentioned. I also kind of intentionally didn't get into characters with relatively short runs. I mean, sure Ramona Fradon was incredible on Metamorpho, but it didn't last long.
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:12 pm |
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So here's a few more:
Hulk - Dale Keown Nick Fury - Jim Steranko Captain Marvel - CC Beck Captain Marvel - Jim Starlin Tomb of Dracula - Gene Colan Swamp Thing - Bernie Wrightenson
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:43 pm |
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Yeah, Steranko belongs on Nick Fury, but he was my favorite Captain America artist. I agree with Jim Starlin for Captain Marvel and C.C.Beck for the real Captain Marvel.
Bernie Wrightson is a good choice for Swamp Thing. I also liked Stephen R. Bissette, John Totleben, and Nestor Redondo, but I'd assign Redondo to Rima the Jungle Girl, even though it's a short run. One of the few comic books that I bought solely for the art.
And along those lines, with the Filipino artists, I think Tony DeZuniga for Jonah Hex.
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:11 am |
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Hulk -- Dale Keown Daredevil -- John Romita Jr. Spider-Man -- Todd McFarlane The Shadow -- Kyle Baker The FF -- Jack Kirby Superman -- Jose Luis Garcia Lopez Batman -- Bruce Timm Swamp Thing -- John Totleben The Avengers -- John Buscema Captain America -- Kieron Dwyer Iron Man -- Luck McDonnell New Mutants -- Bill Sienkiewicz X-Men -- Art Adams
Individual X-people of note ...
Colossus -- Marc Silvestri Storm -- Dave Cockrum Nightcrawler -- Alan Davis Cyclops -- John Byrne Jean Grey -- John Bolton Wolverine -- Frank Miller Rogue -- Jim Lee Havok -- Neal Adams Kitty Pryde -- Paul Smith
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Post subject: Real Deals Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:36 am |
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