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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:06 pm |
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Heroes need villains to fight. Superheroes need a rotating cast of villains to fight each month. Overall,which crimefighter has the greatest amount of compelling enemies?
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:36 pm |
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:37 pm |
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I would say Batman, followed by The Flash.
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Jason Michael
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:46 pm |
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Batman.
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:49 pm |
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:50 pm |
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Second vote for Dick Tracy.
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Jason Michael
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:31 am |
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Dick Tracy was my second choice. Batman's early rogues were inspired by Tracy's, but they were better. And he has another 70-some years of additional rogues, quite a few of which are inspired (and quite a few of which were not! Cluemaster?!?). Anyway, I like Batman's foes.
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:23 am |
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I have three categories I wish to award:
Best overall rogue's gallery: Spider-Man (just an incredible strafing run of villains in those first 20 or so issues)
Best ratio of quality of rogue's gallery to signficance of hero: The Flash (he punches way above his weight class when it comes to rogue's gallery).
Best single arch nemisis: Batman with the Joker. (Never has then been a more perfect, archetypical paring).
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:34 am |
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Flash was my first favorite super hero, so I am biased towards his nemeses.
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:37 am |
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#1 Seed Villian
Batman : Joker FF : Dr. Doom Flash : Reverse Flash? Captain Cold? Spiderman : Doc Oc? Green Goblin? Dick Tracy : no clue
Thoughts?
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:39 pm |
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:59 pm |
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I went with Batman; as much as I enjoyed Flash's Rogues gallery as a kid, their driving motivations were all the same; the rogues are thieves. pure and simple. So there's all sorts of capers and plots, and robberies to foil, but there's not much depth to them. Batman, OTOH, basically has every mental disorder personified as a villain; and travel in every direction - the brute force of a Bane or Killer Croc, the mental challenge of the Riddler or Calendar Man; the sheer chaos of the Joker. Base thieves like Catwoman / Penguin, and world changing crusaders like Poison Ivy. Even would be dictators like R'as. Batman's gallery covers it all. Todd wrote: #1 Seed Villian
Batman : Joker FF : Dr. Doom Flash : Reverse Flash? Captain Cold? Spiderman : Doc Oc? Green Goblin? Dick Tracy : no clue
Thoughts? Silver Age Flash's was Captain Cold; modern Flash is definitely Zoom / Thawne. DC so often used the mirror villain trope though, that I got tired of it. Not that there haven't been great takes on it (Sinestro, Bizzaro), but for the most part, I prefer different takes on the road not taken. (R'as Al Ghul versus Bruce Wayne) Others for your list though: Superman: Luthor Wonder Woman: Cheetah Green Lantern: Sinestro Atom: Clock King Hawkman: Kanjar Ro X-Men: Magneto Wolverine: Sabertooth Avengers: Ultron Spiderman - J. Jonah Jameson Hulk: Abomination Thor: Loki Captain America: Red Skull Iron Man: Tony Stark Daredevil: Kingpin Final thought - heroes are defined by the quality of their villains; so many B tier heroes don't have a great (or any) rogues gallery to speak of. But the ones we think of as the greats? All easily have a 1/2 dozen villains we look forward to seeing
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:25 pm |
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I voted for Hulk ("Other"). When I was reading the Hulk as a kid, his "rogues gallery" was the entire Marvel Universe.
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:39 pm |
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Jason Gore wrote: Hulk: Abomination
Challenge! I'd put The Leader as Hulk's arch-nemesis. (Or "archie," as I like to call it in order to save a few keystrokes. Even though it means they all end up being drawn in the same house-style.)
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:51 pm |
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Kid Nemo wrote: Heroes need villains to fight. Superheroes need a rotating cast of villains to fight each month.
Overall, which crimefighter has the greatest amount of compelling enemies? Fantastic Four Spider-Man X-Men Batman New Gods Savage Dragon
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:14 pm |
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Ocean Doot wrote: Jason Gore wrote: Hulk: Abomination
Challenge! I'd put The Leader as Hulk's arch-nemesis. (Or "archie," as I like to call it in order to save a few keystrokes. Even though it means they all end up being drawn in the same house-style.) You would love Venture Bros. In that show, the villains call it "arching" when they match up with a good guy. As in, "I'm arching on him, you arch on that other one."
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:17 pm |
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Li'l Jay wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Jason Gore wrote: Hulk: Abomination
Challenge! I'd put The Leader as Hulk's arch-nemesis. (Or "archie," as I like to call it in order to save a few keystrokes. Even though it means they all end up being drawn in the same house-style.) You would love Venture Bros. In that show, the villains call it "arching" when they match up with a good guy. As in, "I'm arching on him, you arch on that other one." I don't know how that show so completely passed me by. It does sound like my type of thang.
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:18 pm |
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Ocean Doot wrote: Jason Gore wrote: Hulk: Abomination
Challenge! I'd put The Leader as Hulk's arch-nemesis. (Or "archie," as I like to call it in order to save a few keystrokes. Even though it means they all end up being drawn in the same house-style.) I did think about going that way, but ultimately, I thought the mirror villain works better with the Hulk, because it is the humanity of the man inside the monster that makes the difference. With the Leader, it's more about the loss of what could have been with him, and less about the morality that the hulk has retained. ymmv
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:09 pm |
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Ocean Doot wrote: Li'l Jay wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Jason Gore wrote: Hulk: Abomination
Challenge! I'd put The Leader as Hulk's arch-nemesis. (Or "archie," as I like to call it in order to save a few keystrokes. Even though it means they all end up being drawn in the same house-style.) You would love Venture Bros. In that show, the villains call it "arching" when they match up with a good guy. As in, "I'm arching on him, you arch on that other one." I don't know how that show so completely passed me by. It does sound like my type of thang. If only someone you knew had all the deeveedees . . . .
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:05 pm |
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Dick Tracy was my first experience with a rouges' gallery. I loved the puns.
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:19 pm |
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Li'l Jay wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Li'l Jay wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Jason Gore wrote: Hulk: Abomination
Challenge! I'd put The Leader as Hulk's arch-nemesis. (Or "archie," as I like to call it in order to save a few keystrokes. Even though it means they all end up being drawn in the same house-style.) You would love Venture Bros. In that show, the villains call it "arching" when they match up with a good guy. As in, "I'm arching on him, you arch on that other one." I don't know how that show so completely passed me by. It does sound like my type of thang. If only someone you knew had all the deeveedees . . . . I wish they were available on a streaming service! Physical media is for tha burdz.
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Post subject: Best Rogues' Gallery Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:09 pm |
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Ocean Doot wrote: Li'l Jay wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Li'l Jay wrote: Ocean Doot wrote: Jason Gore wrote: Hulk: Abomination
Challenge! I'd put The Leader as Hulk's arch-nemesis. (Or "archie," as I like to call it in order to save a few keystrokes. Even though it means they all end up being drawn in the same house-style.) You would love Venture Bros. In that show, the villains call it "arching" when they match up with a good guy. As in, "I'm arching on him, you arch on that other one." I don't know how that show so completely passed me by. It does sound like my type of thang. If only someone you knew had all the deeveedees . . . . I wish they were available on a streaming service! Physical media is for tha burdz. Hulu and HBO max
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