Post subject: [2022-01-07] David Bowie "Toy" 3CD box set (Parlophone/Rhino)
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so many many more of these yet to come........................
Although some of these songs were eventually released, this is a scrapped album. Not sure how many more of these are really going to come, as I don't think he has a vault like Prince.
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Post subject: [2022-01-07] David Bowie "Toy" 3CD box set (Parlophone/Rhino)
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 3:49 am
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I suspect we're going to see every note DB recorded released soon. The estate seems to like money. There is still at least some Hunky Dory era (Arnold Corns) & Ziggy era (BBC sessions) unreleased. I would like to see official releases of both. And the copyright is running out soon on the early 70's unreleased Glastonbury show. And there's got to be stuff we don't know about. I do feel like the upcoming 90's box is mostly a cash grab.
I'm very glad a lossless Toy is coming out, but 3 cd's??!! That seems like a bit of overkill in the name of $'s.
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Post subject: [2022-01-07] David Bowie "Toy" 3CD box set (Parlophone/Rhino)
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I don't love the cover, but I am excited for the box. Worth noting that the 2011 MP3 leak of Toy turns out not to have been the final album, missing "Karma Man" and "Can't Help Thinking About Me" (which have never circulated) and adding early versions of 2 songs ultimately destined for Heathen.
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pobbard wrote:
I don't love the cover, but I am excited for the box. Worth noting that the 2011 MP3 leak of Toy turns out not to have been the final album, missing "Karma Man" and "Can't Help Thinking About Me" (which have never circulated) and adding early versions of 2 songs ultimately destined for Heathen.
I predict slash hope the Heathen alternates will appear on the next box in that context.
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I predict slash hope the Heathen alternates will appear on the next box in that context.
I'd hope for that too, but in general these boxes haven't featured alternate mixes/outtakes unless (1) they were released at the time the album was released (remixes, or the demos from Hours, for example) or (2) they are part of the central "box bait", like The Gouster or the expanded Stage or Toy. So, it's possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Post subject: [2022-01-07] David Bowie "Toy" 3CD box set (Parlophone/Rhino)
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:50 pm
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Since they finally did higher than cd res (lol) for BA, I am looking forward to this. Other than any unreleased pro recorded RCA era material I'm not aware of & some sort of a Tin Machine set with unreleased material, I feel like my collection is pretty complete after Toy.
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Is all of this material found on the Brilliant Adventures box that was released this week, or were they good strategists and left some exclusive so completists have to buy both? I suspect the latter. It's very hard to sort through all the music from listings as you never know if the version/mix is titled correctly. I am not always sure the labels even know what they are releasing.
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Post subject: [2022-01-07] David Bowie "Toy" 3CD box set (Parlophone/Rhino)
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Jason Michael wrote:
Is all of this material found on the Brilliant Adventures box that was released this week, or were they good strategists and left some exclusive so completists have to buy both? I suspect the latter. It's very hard to sort through all the music from listings as you never know if the version/mix is titled correctly. I am not always sure the labels even know what they are releasing.
The version of Toy in the BA box doesn't include "Liza Jane" or "In the Heat of the Morning" in the tracklist (but still clocks in at 50 minutes). The Toy box also adds a slew of alternative mixes - likely including all of the b-side mixes from the early 2000s, plus others - as well as the semi-acoustic take on (most) of the LP tracks on CD3.
Post subject: [2022-01-07] David Bowie "Toy" 3CD box set (Parlophone/Rhino)
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:46 am
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Quick question about these tracks:
I recently received the the single-disc version of "Toy" as found on the "Brilliant Adventure" box, which is reportedly identical to Disc One of the forthcoming standalone release.
Of the twelve songs on the single disc, many have apparently been previously released. According to Wikipedia, "Between 2002 and 2003, tracks from Toy, including 'Conversation Piece', 'Shadow Man', "'You've Got a Habit of Leaving' and 'Baby Loves that Way', appeared as various B-sides and bonus tracks....'Let Me Sleep Beside You' and 'Your Turn to Drive' later saw official release on the three-disc edition of the 2014 compilation Nothing Has Changed."
This is a good starting point, I suppose. What I'm trying to determine is (a) exactly which songs of these songs were, in fact, previously released, (b) where did they appear (i.e., the title of the album or single), and (c) when did they appear (as in an approximate month and year of initial release).
Although these Bowie boxes have generally provided reasonably decent discography information, they are difficult to read, and the liner notes for the mini-sleeve version of "Toy," if not illegible, consist of tiny white print (some of it in a handwritten font) against a light grey background. However, my attempts to enlarge the print using a cellphone camera seem to indicate that the release information I'm seeking is not included.
Could somebody PLEASE provide some sort of quick overview of the release history of these twelve songs?
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Post subject: [2022-01-07] David Bowie "Toy" 3CD box set (Parlophone/Rhino)
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Stumpy Joe wrote:
Quick question about these tracks: Of the twelve songs on the single disc, many have apparently been previously released. According to Wikipedia, "Between 2002 and 2003, tracks from Toy, including 'Conversation Piece', 'Shadow Man', "'You've Got a Habit of Leaving' and 'Baby Loves that Way', appeared as various B-sides and bonus tracks....'Let Me Sleep Beside You' and 'Your Turn to Drive' later saw official release on the three-disc edition of the 2014 compilation Nothing Has Changed."
This is a good starting point, I suppose. What I'm trying to determine is (a) exactly which songs of these songs were, in fact, previously released, (b) where did they appear (i.e., the title of the album or single), and (c) when did they appear (as in an approximate month and year of initial release).
Although these Bowie boxes have generally provided reasonably decent discography information, they are difficult to read, and the liner notes for the mini-sleeve version of "Toy," if not illegible, consist of tiny white print (some of it in a handwritten font) against a light grey background. However, my attempts to enlarge the print using a cellphone camera seem to indicate that the release information I'm seeking is not included.
Could somebody PLEASE provide some sort of quick overview of the release history of these twelve songs?
Sure... to the best of my knowledge:
1. "I Dig Everything" - previously unreleased, but leaked in 2011 - not sure if the mix is identical or not
3. "The London Boys" - previously unreleased, but two excerpts were streamed on BowieNet back in 2002 as part of a promotion, and the full track was leaked in 2011 (again, not sure if the mix was the same)
4. "Karma Man" - previously unreleased, never leaked
5. "Conversation Piece" - released on the 2CD version of Heathen in 2002, and I believe in the same mix
10. "Can't Help Thinking About Me" - previously unreleased, never leaked
11. "Silly Boy Blue" - previously unreleased, but leaked in 2011. I think the mix of the leaked version is the "Alternate Ending" mix, not the one heard on Toy in Brilliant Adventures, but not positive. Either way, they're very close.
12. "Toy (Your Turn to Drive)" - released on the Nothing Has Changed compilation in 2014 in a longer mix. (Also available as a download for people who bought Reality at HMV in 2003, I think!)
The Toy:Box will give us two more leaked-but-never-released tracks with "Liza Jane" and "In the Heat of the Morning", plus a slew of alternate mixes - hopefully including all of the alternates I mentioned above.
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:53 am
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pobbard wrote:
Stumpy Joe wrote:
Quick question about these tracks: Of the twelve songs on the single disc, many have apparently been previously released. According to Wikipedia, "Between 2002 and 2003, tracks from Toy, including 'Conversation Piece', 'Shadow Man', "'You've Got a Habit of Leaving' and 'Baby Loves that Way', appeared as various B-sides and bonus tracks....'Let Me Sleep Beside You' and 'Your Turn to Drive' later saw official release on the three-disc edition of the 2014 compilation Nothing Has Changed."
This is a good starting point, I suppose. What I'm trying to determine is (a) exactly which songs of these songs were, in fact, previously released, (b) where did they appear (i.e., the title of the album or single), and (c) when did they appear (as in an approximate month and year of initial release).
Although these Bowie boxes have generally provided reasonably decent discography information, they are difficult to read, and the liner notes for the mini-sleeve version of "Toy," if not illegible, consist of tiny white print (some of it in a handwritten font) against a light grey background. However, my attempts to enlarge the print using a cellphone camera seem to indicate that the release information I'm seeking is not included.
Could somebody PLEASE provide some sort of quick overview of the release history of these twelve songs?
Sure... to the best of my knowledge:
1. "I Dig Everything" - previously unreleased, but leaked in 2011 - not sure if the mix is identical or not
3. "The London Boys" - previously unreleased, but two excerpts were streamed on BowieNet back in 2002 as part of a promotion, and the full track was leaked in 2011 (again, not sure if the mix was the same)
4. "Karma Man" - previously unreleased, never leaked
5. "Conversation Piece" - released on the 2CD version of Heathen in 2002, and I believe in the same mix
10. "Can't Help Thinking About Me" - previously unreleased, never leaked
11. "Silly Boy Blue" - previously unreleased, but leaked in 2011. I think the mix of the leaked version is the "Alternate Ending" mix, not the one heard on Toy in Brilliant Adventures, but not positive. Either way, they're very close.
12. "Toy (Your Turn to Drive)" - released on the Nothing Has Changed compilation in 2014 in a longer mix. (Also available as a download for people who bought Reality at HMV in 2003, I think!)
The Toy:Box will give us two more leaked-but-never-released tracks with "Liza Jane" and "In the Heat of the Morning", plus a slew of alternate mixes - hopefully including all of the alternates I mentioned above.
Wow! Thank you! (I knew I came to the right place.)
Also--thank you for the link to that illustrated Bowie discography site. For whatever reason, it had never popped out at me via Google search. There goes my weekend...
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