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CA - https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B09GSBD83S/?tag=imwanca-20
UK - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09GSBD83S/?tag=imwan-21

2CD Deluxe Edition
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Celebrating its 45th anniversary, "Destroyer" was originally released in 1976 and is considered to be one of the quintessential KISS albums. It is the band's first album to sell one million copies in its first year and holds the title of being their all-time best-selling studio album. Packed with concert staples and KISS Army favorites, including "Detroit Rock City", "Shout It Out Loud", "God Of Thunder" and "Beth", on November 19, 2021 UMe will release "KISS – Destroyer 45th" in the form of a Super Deluxe 4-CD + Blu-ray audio box set as well as on standard double black vinyl and limited edition yellow and red double colored vinyl, 2-CD set and digital.

For the recording of "Destroyer", Bob Ezrin was brought in as KISS's new producer, helping the band reach new levels, both sonically and creatively. The album also showed the band's growth as musicians and songwriters, experimenting with new sounds which came in the form of the softer side of songs like "Do You Love Me?" , and songs heavy with orchestral arrangements including "Great Expectations" and their Billboard No. 7 hit single "Beth". Following the breakthrough success of 1975's No. 9 Billboard-charting "Alive!", "Destroyer" was the KISS album that brought them to the forefront of the mainstream and transformed them into global rock icons. For its anniversary, UMe celebrates this seminal album's legacy with a staggering amount of bonus material.

CD 1 includes the original album newly remastered at Abbey Road Mastering, while CD 2 features 15 demos from Paul Stanley's and Gene Simmons's personal archives — nine of which were previously unreleased. CD 3 is packed with studio outtakes, alternate versions / mixes and single edits — most notably a brand-new stripped-down mix for "Beth (Acoustic Mix)", and CD 4 contains an electrifying performance from the band's visit to Paris France at the L'Olympia on May 22, 1976. For the Blu-ray audio disc, Steven Wilson was brought in to create a first-ever Dolby Atmos and 5.1 surround mix of the original studio album plus two bonus tracks, "Beth (Acoustic Mix)" and "Sweet Pain (Original Guitar Solo)", the latter featuring Ace Frehley's original recorded guitar solo that was not released on the studio album (this track is available on the 2012 "Destroyer: Resurrected" project).

Additionally, the Super Deluxe box features an extravagant array of collectable KISS memorabilia and ephemera, including a complete recreation of the original KISS Army Kit with the original folder and following items:

* KISS Army newsletter Volume 1 - No 2 announcing "Destroyer"
* 2x 8"x10" "Destroyer" Press Photos
* Discography Sheet
* Gene, Paul, Ace & Peter Bio Sheet
* KISS Army Member Certificate
* KISS Army Membership Card

Also included in the Super Deluxe set:

* KISS logo Iron-on
* KISS Army Sticker
* "Detroit Rock City" Bumper Sticker
* "Destroyer" Cover Sticker
* 11"x17" KISS on Westminster Bridge UK Poster
* 4 brand new 8"x10" Band Member Photos
* 8"x12" "Destroyer" Foil Flyer
* 8"x12" "Destroyer" Canadian Flyer (super rare)
* 4x Band Member Trading Cards (newly created for this boxset)
* 16"x24" KISS Over New York Skyline Poster
* 16"x24" KISS Halloween 1976 Concert Poster
* 2x 9"x12" "Destroyer" Tour Stage Blueprints on Transparent Vellum (never been seen before)
* 16-page "Destroyer" 1976 Tour Program
* Gotham Rock City News Volume 1 Newspaper that is a track-by-track interview with all 4 band members, Bob Ezrin and crew
* 68-page hardcover book with extensive liner notes by Paul Elliott and Ken Sharp featuring interviews from Gene, Paul, Ace, Peter, then-manager Bill Aucoin, album producer Bob Ezrin, and many more about the album's writing and production process, U.S. and European tours, photo shoots, promotional stories, band member memories from their TV appearance on "The Paul Lynde Halloween Special", and an intoxicating amount of unreleased photos and imagery.

The entire contents are housed in a lift top-style box and features artist Ken Kelly's original "Destroyer" cover art, arguably one of the most iconic album covers in rock, making this the ultimate KISS "Destroyer" souvenir.

[tracklisting]CD 1: Original Album Remastered

1. Detroit Rock City
2. King of The Night Time World
3. God of Thunder
4. Great Expectations
5. Flaming Youth
6. Sweet Pain
7. Shout It Out Loud
8. Beth
9. Do You Love Me?

CD 2: Demos

PAUL STANLEY DEMOS

1. Doncha Hesitate
2. God Of Thunder And Rock And Roll
3. It’s The Fire [Previously Unreleased]
4. Detroit Rock City [Previously Unreleased]
5. Love Is Alright [Previously Unreleased]

GENE SIMMONS DEMOS

6. Bad, Bad Lovin’
7. Man Of A Thousand Faces
8. I Don’t Want No Romance [Previously Unreleased]
9. Burnin’ Up With Fever [Previously Unreleased]
10. Rock N’ Rolls Royce [Previously Unreleased]
11. Mad Dog
12. Night Boy [Previously Unreleased]
13. Star [Previously Unreleased]
14. Howlin’ For Your Love [Previously Unreleased]
15. True Confessions

CD 3: Outtakes, Alternate Versions / Mixes, Single Edits

1. Beth (Acoustic Mix) [Previously Unreleased]
2. Shout It Out Loud (Single Edit)
3. Flaming Youth (Single Edit)
4. Detroit Rock City (Single Edit)
5. Shout It Out Loud (Mono Single Edit)
6. Flaming Youth (Mono Single Edit)
7. Detroit Rock City (Mono Single Edit)
8. Beth (Mono)
9. King Of The Night Time World (Live Rehearsal Instrumental) [Previously Unreleased]
10. Do You Love Me? (Mono Instrumental) [Previously Unreleased]
11. God Of Thunder (Early Instrumental Mix) [Previously Unreleased]
12. Ain’t None Of Your Business (Instrumental) [Previously Unreleased]
13. Detroit Rock City (Instrumental) [Previously Unreleased]
14. King Of The Night Time World (Alternate Mix) [Previously Unreleased]
15. Great Expectations (Early Version) [Previously Unreleased]
16. Flaming Youth (Early Version) [Previously Unreleased]
17. Do You Love Me? (Early Version) [Previously Unreleased]
18. Shout It Out Loud (Alternate Mix) [Previously Unreleased]
19. Ain’t None Of Your Business (Outtake) [Previously Unreleased]
20. Beth (Take 6 – Instrumental) [Previously Unreleased]
21. Beth (Instrumental) [Previously Unreleased]
22. Do You Love Me? (Alternate Mix) [Previously Unreleased]

CD 4: Live in Paris – L’Olympia – 22 May, 1976*

1. Deuce
2. Strutter
3. Flaming Youth
4. Hotter Than Hell
5. Firehouse
6. She / Ace Frehley Guitar Solo
7. Nothin’ To Lose
8. Shout It Out Loud / Gene Simmons Bass Solo
9. 100,000 Years / Peter Criss Drum Solo
10. Black Diamond
11. Detroit Rock City
12. Rock and Roll All Nite

Blu-ray Audio:

Dolby Atmos 48kHz 24-bit
Dolby True HD 5.1 96kHz 24-bit
DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 96kHz 24-bit
PCM Stereo 96kHz 24-bit

1. Detroit Rock City
2. King Of The Night Time World
3. God Of Thunder
4. Great Expectations
5. Flaming Youth
6. Sweet Pain
7. Shout It Out Loud
8. Beth
9. Do You Love Me?
10. Beth (Acoustic) [Bonus Track]
11. Sweet Pain (Original Guitar Solo) [Bonus Track]


DELUXE EDITION 2CD TRACK LIST:

DISC ONE
DESTROYER
Original Album Remastered
1. Detroit Rock City
2. King of The Night Time World
3. God of Thunder
4. Great Expectations
5. Flaming Youth
6. Sweet Pain
7. Shout It Out Loud
8. Beth
9. Do You Love Me?

DISC TWO
PAUL STANLEY DEMOS
1. God Of Thunder And Rock And Roll
2. Detroit Rock City*
3. Love Is Alright*

GENE SIMMONS DEMOS
4. I Don't Want No Romance*
5. Rock N' Rolls Royce*
6. Star*

RARITIES
7. Beth (Acoustic Mix)*
8. Shout It Out Loud (Mono Single Edit)
9. King Of The Night Time World (Live Rehearsal Instrumental)*
10. Detroit Rock City (Instrumental)*
11. Flaming Youth (Early Version)*
12. Shout It Out Loud (Alternate Mix)*

LIVE IN PARIS – L'Olympia – May 22, 1976*
13. Deuce
14. Strutter
15. Flaming Youth
16. Hotter Than Hell

*Previously Unreleased

DELUXE EDITION 2LP TRACK LIST:

LP ONE
DESTROYER
Original Album Remastered
Side One
1. Detroit Rock City
2. King of The Night Time World
3. God of Thunder
4. Great Expectations

Side Two
1. Flaming Youth
2. Sweet Pain
3. Shout It Out Loud
4. Beth
5. Do You Love Me?

LP TWO
Side Three
PAUL STANLEY DEMOS
1. God Of Thunder And Rock And Roll
2. Detroit Rock City*
3. Love Is Alright*

GENE SIMMONS DEMOS
4. I Don't Want No Romance*
5. Rock N' Rolls Royce*
6. Star*

Side Four
RARITIES
1. Beth (Acoustic Mix)*
2. Shout It Out Loud (Mono Single Edit)
3. King Of The Night Time World (Live Rehearsal Instrumental)*
4. Detroit Rock City (Instrumental)*
5. Flaming Youth (Early Version)*
6. Shout It Out Loud (Alternate Mix)*

*Previously Unreleased[/tracklisting]

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I *may* be getting this...

Finally, it looks like KISS is doing something right reissue-wise!



Beat ya to the punch, Alan.

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Currently, I've only found the pre-order listing on their web site, but I'm sure this will get a general (and cheaper - it's $200 there) release.

And look - they didn't include vinyl in the box!

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Beat ya to the punch, Alan.

Yeah, you did. Yours wasn't there when I started, but by the time I finished...

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Chris was first, so its his version of the thread that we'll keep.

Maybe I should delete both threads and ban both of you ... just for liking Kiss.

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Pass. I already have the 2012 remaster.

And why do they keep beating on this release????? What about R & R Over? Love Gun? Alive? The first 3 albums? Those needs some TLC, maybe even a remix.


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Maybe I should delete both threads and ban both of you ... just for liking Kiss.

And after I just ordered your copy for Christmas... :sigh:

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And why do they keep beating on this release????? What about R & R Over? Love Gun? Alive? The first 3 albums? Those needs some TLC, maybe even a remix.

But...but...but this is a cross between Destroyer and any number of elaborate box sets!

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Maybe I should delete both threads and ban both of you ... just for liking Kiss.


I haven't been banned in a long while.

And you knew about KISS and The Bay City Rollers when I joined up here!

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I gotta say, when I think of bands/albums that could benefit from a 5.1 mix.... Kiss isn’t usually on the list.

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Remember, you heard it here first!!

The original KISS Destroyer Deluxe thread!!

Tell all your friends before Linda bans me!

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Linda wrote:
Maybe I should delete both threads and ban both of you ... just for liking Kiss.

I haven't been banned in a long while.

And you knew about KISS and The Bay City Rollers when I joined up here!

More accurately, I was warned about it when you joined. Remember?

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Dr. Chris Evil wrote:
Linda wrote:
Maybe I should delete both threads and ban both of you ... just for liking Kiss.

I haven't been banned in a long while.

And you knew about KISS and The Bay City Rollers when I joined up here!

More accurately, I was warned about it when you joined. Remember?


Ah yes, my old buddy! Glad you disavowed his warnings and let me join anyway!

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Pass. I already have the 2012 remaster.

And why do they keep beating on this release????? What about R & R Over? Love Gun? Alive? The first 3 albums? Those needs some TLC, maybe even a remix.


The 2012 release was a stereo remix by Bob Ezrin, not a straight remaster.

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This is mildly interesting but I’ll pass.

Give me an Elder box set, and I’ll lick Gene’s platform boots.

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Dr. Chris Evil wrote:
Mark MN wrote:
Pass. I already have the 2012 remaster.

And why do they keep beating on this release????? What about R & R Over? Love Gun? Alive? The first 3 albums? Those needs some TLC, maybe even a remix.


The 2012 release was a stereo remix by Bob Ezrin, not a straight remaster.


I stand corrected. :ohyes:


Is it just me or do others feel as I do that this particular album was subpar? I put R & R Over above this. Love Gun ranks, to me, as another cheesy album. Only 3 songs on that do anything for me.

Basically, I'm a fan of the first 3 and Alive. After that, thing began to get cheesy. I still put on Alive and am marveled at how damn good it is and how good they were live (with the original members of course).


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This is mildly interesting but I’ll pass.

Give me an Elder box set, and I’ll lick Gene’s platform boots.


Only if he washes them first. :D


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I'll buy CD 3 from someone if they want to get rid of it. I'm a sucker for single edits and mixes.

Even for KISS.

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If you don't want to read complaints about the price, just skip to the next post right now.

Looks like Gene Simmons got a bit envious about David Gilmour's pricing strategy. There are 4 CDs + 1 Blu-ray in this box. 5 optical disks. 200/5 = $40 per disc. Maybe, if one really pushes it, it could be argued that all the paper included is worth $50...which brings it down to $30 per optical disk which is still a rip-off when considering 4 of those disks are compact discs that really should be no more than $15 each.

Yes, welcome to Rip-Off City.

I'd go $100 on this....if I was in the right mood maybe $120. I think that's the upper end of my limit. Considering the retail, it looks like I won't be adding this one to my collection.


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If you don't want to read complaints about the price, just skip to the next post right now.


This the next post. :giggle:


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Mark MN wrote:
Dr. Chris Evil wrote:
Mark MN wrote:
Pass. I already have the 2012 remaster.

And why do they keep beating on this release????? What about R & R Over? Love Gun? Alive? The first 3 albums? Those needs some TLC, maybe even a remix.


The 2012 release was a stereo remix by Bob Ezrin, not a straight remaster.


I stand corrected. :ohyes:


Is it just me or do others feel as I do that this particular album was subpar? I put R & R Over above this. Love Gun ranks, to me, as another cheesy album. Only 3 songs on that do anything for me.

Basically, I'm a fan of the first 3 and Alive. After that, thing began to get cheesy. I still put on Alive and am marveled at how damn good it is and how good they were live (with the original members of course).


In regards to the post you had prior to this, considering this is Kiss, it's pretty safe to bet they would throw out every release they think they could make money on. We have the Destroyer releases and the deluxe Love Gun from a few years ago, it's probably pretty safe to bet that there isn't much usable demos material before Alive considering where the band was at and the label they were on. As far as Rock n Roll Over, it is surprising they can't seem to scrounge up enough material for that one. They are probably ignoring everything after Alive II because it seems like they consider those first eight records (6 studio, 2 live) the heyday and don't think they would be able to cash in as much on the later stuff.

Personally I think Creatures of the Night would be the most interesting, just because they had so many different musicians coming in and out, there has to be a bunch of alternate guitar solos and such. That album didn't sell worth a crap when first released but is so highly regarded among the fans now that I think a deluxe of that one would be pretty interesting. The obvious deal killers would be that any live stuff included would probably be followed by a lawsuit from Vinnie Vincent (which Gene might actually like since he can't see Vincent as much of a threat anymore....and he's paying all those lawyers anyway so he might as well put them to work) not to mention all the performance royalties that would have to be paid out to different guitar players, etc.

As far as remasters....the original Polygram CD masters were a complete disaster and a complete butchering of a catalog. Those were just awful. It seems pretty clear that when they did the remasters, they really wanted to get them right and I think they did. In terms of all the old stuff, I feel really good about those remasters and don't think I need an upgrade. If anything, they should go back and remaster the last few albums they did as "full dynamic range" remasters....that stuff needs a lot more help than the old stuff does.

If I was to pick the one thing I really want Kiss to release, it would be Kissology Vol 4. I loved the first three of those.

And as far as the quality of Destroyer, I'd have to disagree. I'd rank it #1 in the Kiss catalog.
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