[2019-06-14] Schon And Hammer "Untold Passion/Here To Stay" twofer remaster (BGO UK)

Linda · **Posted:** Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:49 am

Description
Two albums from Journey guitarist Neal Schon and former Mahavishnu Orchestra keyboardist Jan Hammer. These albums date from 1981 and 1982, originally recorded for CBS, and include former Back Door bass player Colin Hodgkinson. 'Here To Stay' has Steve Perry and Steve Smith (both Journey) and Glenn Burtnick (Styx) as guest musicians. Jan Hammer has had a long and distinguished career. Well known for composing the 'Miami Vice' TV theme, he has worked with the likes of Jeff Beck, Tommy Bolin, Mick Jagger and Al Di Meola. Neal Schon was in Santana before forming Journey, as well as being a member of Bad English and Hardline. Digitally remastered and slipcased, and with new notes.

Tracklist
Untold Passion:
1. Wasting Time
2. I'm Talking To You
3. The Ride
4. I'm Down
5. Arc
6. It's Alright
7. Hooked On Love
8. On The Beach
9. Untold Passion
Here To Stay:
10. No More Lies
11. Don't Stay Away
12. (You Think You're) So Hot
13. Turnaround
14. Self Defense
15. Long Time
16. Time Again
17. Sticks And Stones
18. Peace Of Mind
19. Covered By Midnight

Amazon USA
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QRK1BZP/?tag=imwan-20

Amazon UK
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07QRK1BZP/?tag=imwan-21

Mark MN · 13 Aug 2012

I never heard these. What are they like?

Is Steve Perry on them? If not, it's not Schon and Hammer. :yay:

Simon · **Joined:** 26 Oct 2006 **Posts:** 59407

I've never heard of these, either. I'd love to hear this stuff!

Mark MN · 13 Aug 2012

Simon wrote:

I've never heard of these, either. I'd love to hear this stuff!

A long time ago, I read a decent review of the first album, so I'm genuinely curious as what others think here.

Rick A · 23 Jul 2006

Happy Holiday Mark & Simon.

I have both, Neil Schon was on fire as a writer and many tracks ready which Journey didn't need and with Jan Hammer who is as you know is really an excellent keyboard player. Probably most remembered for his great sound track work for the TV show 'Miami Vice' and has played collaborated with some of the era's most influential jazz and rock musicians such as John McLaughlin, Jeff Beck, Al Di Meola, Mick Jagger, Carlos Santana, Stanley Clarke, Tommy Bolin, Neal Schon, Steve Lukather and Elvin Jones.

'Untold Passion' was released November 1981 with a quick follow-up 'Here To Stay' released December 1982. This album also featured contributions from Schon's bandmates in Journey including songwriting and background vocals from Steve Perry.

Personally I like this stuff, both players were on fire and there are some good rock tracks here. Really nice that BGO has both records on a single disc. If you find the price OK I would recommend this record, it's a fun one.

Simon · **Joined:** 26 Oct 2006 **Posts:** 59407

Sounds excellent, Rick. Thanks for the info! :thumbsup:

Happy Easter to you also - I'm a fan of both these guys so I'm a bit embarrassed to say I've never heard of these albums. I'd definitely like them, I'm sure.

Angus Nielsen · 28 Sep 2006

I only know the single No More Lies which is a killer rock track and had a video. This two-fer is available for streaming on Spotify so I'm definitely going to check it out and get it if it is.

Linda · **Posted:** Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:19 am

Simon · **Joined:** 26 Oct 2006 **Posts:** 59407

That's magnificent!

JosephC · **Joined:** 27 Jan 2011 **Posts:** 2656

Didn't another label issue these albums just a couple years ago? I already thought we had this conversation?

I saw the video for No More Lies back in 1982 and was blown away. I went out to buy the record, not really sure what the song was, and bought Untold Passion (probably because the record store happened to have that one in stock). Got it home and didn't like it at all. Then I saw the video for No More Lies a few more times, went to the record store and picked up Here To Stay. Got it home, loved No More Lies and didn't like the rest of the album at all. Granted, I was really young at the time (13), and my tastes have changed and maybe now these albums would appeal to me. But I definitely would not buy these new issues unless listening to them again first because the first go-around was not a positive one. I honestly can't remember liking any of the other songs outside of No More Lies on these albums, not one.

And yes, that video for No More LIes is excellent. Classic 80s right there. Still really like that song a lot.

Linda · **Posted:** Thu May 30, 2019 6:26 pm

Bump: The twofer has been pushed back to June 14th.

Tricky Kid · **Joined:** 23 Sep 2007 **Posts:** 8297

JosephC wrote:

Didn't another label issue these albums just a couple years ago? I already thought we had this conversation?

Expanded reissues of both albums were released by Wounded Bird in 2017.

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Dr. Chris Evil · 26 Jul 2006

It's feast or famine with these albums. Either they're out of print or there are multiple reissues!

Linda · **Posted:** Fri May 31, 2019 8:52 pm

The Wounded Bird CDs that Tricky Kid linked to are both out of print and collectably priced (and they're not remastered, either). If you need these Schon/Hammer albums, just get the new BGO twofer in the first post.

JohnG · 03 Aug 2006

I was playing these two recordings while working out at the gym via Apple Music and they do sound great, had never heard them and I like em!

Really liked Untold Passion and the song "The Ride".

Dr. Chris Evil · 26 Jul 2006

Linda wrote:

The Wounded Bird CDs that Tricky Kid linked to are both out of print and collectably priced (and they're not remastered, either). If you need these Schon/Hammer albums, just get the new BGO twofer in the first post.

I bought the Wounded Bird CDs. I'm good.

Linda · **Posted:** Fri May 31, 2019 9:51 pm

Dr. Chris Evil wrote:

Linda wrote:

The Wounded Bird CDs that Tricky Kid linked to are both out of print and collectably priced (and they're not remastered, either). If you need these Schon/Hammer albums, just get the new BGO twofer in the first post.

I bought the Wounded Bird CDs. I'm good.

You bought the Wounded Bird CDs, but you're evil.

Dr. Chris Evil · 26 Jul 2006

Linda wrote:

Dr. Chris Evil wrote:

Linda wrote:

The Wounded Bird CDs that Tricky Kid linked to are both out of print and collectably priced (and they're not remastered, either). If you need these Schon/Hammer albums, just get the new BGO twofer in the first post.

I bought the Wounded Bird CDs. I'm good.

You bought the Wounded Bird CDs, but you're evil.

I'm good at being evil.

Actually, these days, I'm more like evil-lite.

Or live evil.

Jason Michael · 30 May 2012

Dr. Chris Evil wrote:

Linda wrote:

Dr. Chris Evil wrote:

Linda wrote:

The Wounded Bird CDs that Tricky Kid linked to are both out of print and collectably priced (and they're not remastered, either). If you need these Schon/Hammer albums, just get the new BGO twofer in the first post.

I bought the Wounded Bird CDs. I'm good.

You bought the Wounded Bird CDs, but you're evil.

I'm good at being evil.

Actually, these days, I'm more like evil-lite.

Or live evil.

Miles Davis- Live-Evil

Dr. Chris Evil · 26 Jul 2006

Jason Michael wrote:

Dr. Chris Evil wrote:

Linda wrote:

Dr. Chris Evil wrote:

Linda wrote:

The Wounded Bird CDs that Tricky Kid linked to are both out of print and collectably priced (and they're not remastered, either). If you need these Schon/Hammer albums, just get the new BGO twofer in the first post.

I bought the Wounded Bird CDs. I'm good.

You bought the Wounded Bird CDs, but you're evil.

I'm good at being evil.

Actually, these days, I'm more like evil-lite.

Or live evil.

Miles Davis- Live-Evil

Good call.

But I was thinking more along the lines of this:

[2019-06-14] Schon And Hammer "Untold Passion/Here To Stay" twofer remaster (BGO UK)

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