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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:22 am |
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Quote: As Archie Nears 75, Riverdale Gets a Youthful Infusion After nearly 75 years of chasing girls through the halls of Riverdale High and hanging out at Pop Tate’s soda shop, the teenage Everyman Archie Andrews is headed for a makeover. Plans for the redheaded Romeo include a new look and an edgier tone, which will be introduced in 2015 when the Archie comic book is reset at No. 1 with a new creative team. The effort is timed to celebrate the 75th anniversary of Archie, who was introduced in 1941, and coincides with plans for a television series on Fox and an apparel line from the fashion designer Marc Ecko. The overhaul at Archie Comic Publications extends to other parts of the company as well, including Red Circle Comics, an imprint that will be rebranded Dark Circle Comics and will reintroduce vintage superheroes like the Fox and the Shield. The updates build on changes that began about five years ago, after Jon Goldwater took over as chief executive and publisher of Archie Comics. Mr. Goldwater stepped in after the 1999 death of his father, John L. Goldwater, who helped found the company in 1939. “I found Archie to be dusty, irrelevant and watered-down,” Mr. Goldwater said. “It has taken me a while to really wrap my hands around where we are as a brand.” Reinvigorating the brand included introducing new titles like Life With Archie, which imagined the teenager’s life as an adult and ended with his much publicized death, and Afterlife With Archie, a darker comic book in which Riverdale is overrun by zombies. The success of those comic books led Mr. Goldwater to broaden his plans. “These changes are crucial to keep the brand relevant and vibrant,” he said. And they are already starting to pay off. Since 2008, bookstore sales have increased 736 percent, and direct-market sales, which include those in specialty stores like comic book shops, rose 226 percent, according to the publisher. Albert Ching, managing editor of Comic Book Resources, a website that tracks the industry, sees the changes as a smart move. “They are doing bold new things,” he said. “They’ve given people a reason to check them out again.” For readers who yearn for Archie’s wholesome nature, Mr. Goldwater has taken care to keep the teenager’s core characteristics intact. “We want to keep the lighthearted and family-friendly tone, but we have to do it in the present times, and that forces us to change,” he said. To help strike a balance, Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, a writer for television and comic books and a lifelong Archie fan, joined the company as chief creative officer, a move that Mr. Goldwater described as a “game changer.” “He’s brought a sensibility and a creative force that I didn’t really know existed,” Mr. Goldwater said of Mr. Aguirre-Sacasa. “He is fearless in his vision for Archie.” Mr. Aguirre-Sacasa used his contacts in Los Angeles to introduce Archie to television producers, which led to a deal with the TV producer Greg Berlanti to make “Riverdale,” a surreal, one-hour drama for Fox. But part of Mr. Aguirre-Sacasa’s job is also to reimagine characters and develop new titles for Archie Comics, which led to more mature ones like Afterlife With Archie and Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. “The tension against that perceived innocence and the darker material, that’s the sweet spot,” he said, adding that it was important for Archie to change with the times. “The worst thing that could happen is that Archie could stop being relevant,” he said. To keep Archie fresh, new talent was sought, including Lena Dunham, who will bring her feminist take to a four-part story in 2015. Mark Waid and Fiona Staples, two comic book veterans, will be the new creative team for the Archie comic. Mr. Waid said his primary goal was to return Archie to a modern audience, which included restoring the contemporary attitudes that the teenagers of Riverdale had lost. “Over the years, some of the sharp edges have been sanded off,” he said. “They are kids, and they should act as kids.” Not content with a mere makeover, though, Mr. Goldwater has bigger ideas for Archie Comics, including a movie, an animated TV series and theme park rides. “I want us to be a global sensation, to be as big as Marvel and DC,” he said. “Other publishers have superheroes, but no one has Archie.” http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/15/busin ... -data.html
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:34 am |
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:50 am |
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:55 am |
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Yeah, talk about a dream team. Maybe the mainline Archie book will actually deal with the issues teens actually face today, i.e. sex. Now they need to hire me to revamp Josie.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:30 am |
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How is this different from the New Look Archie of 2007?
FWIW, my 11-year-old daughter likes Archie the way it is. But maybe she's not representative of kids her age. Or maybe they are looking to go after the fanboy market instead?
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:01 am |
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Steve wrote: Yeah, talk about a dream team. Maybe the mainline Archie book will actually deal with the issues teens actually face today, i.e. sex. And no one better than a 52 year old to do it!
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:09 am |
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That guy talks in catch phrases and buzz words. Rarely does lasting success follow such piffle.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:14 am |
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Unless Archie becomes a living vampire, I'll be showing this the same amount of interest I've always had in Archie - zero. 
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:32 pm |
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Jason Czeskleba wrote: How is this different from the New Look Archie of 2007? Those were all standalone in a limited format and always intended to be so. This sounds like a revamp of the whole line. I will check this out but reserve any judgement. It seems initially like a step too far. I liked the Dan DeCarlo years, where he did a great job of keeping them looking relevant in the fashions of the day, no matter the decade, and the stories ranged from adventure drama to the usual antics. You knew what you were getting, but it was all fun. Other than a handful of interesting storylines and new characters, Archie hasn't been all that interesting in a long time, Life With Archie and Afterlife aside.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:43 pm |
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Marcus wrote: Lena Dunham?  No. Just no.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:57 pm |
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A "new look",but Jughead still wears that hat,the likes of which nobody has worn in 75 years. Must be sutured to his head.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:10 pm |
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RobertSwanderson wrote: Marcus wrote: Lena Dunham?  No. Just no. Really? This is not an April Fool's Day thing?
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:14 pm |
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That meddlin kid wrote: RobertSwanderson wrote: Marcus wrote: Lena Dunham?  No. Just no. Really? This is not an April Fool's Day thing? Really don't need to see Big Ethel walking around naked.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:34 pm |
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I'm always astonished that Archie comics survived past 1975. It was never my thing at all but the sheer popularity amongst not only kids but adults is amazing. The whole Archie universe (!) never seemed to be more than a three joke, two dimensional set of old fashioned, out of date characters to me. Evidently, I'm oblivious.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:25 pm |
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Rick Lundeen wrote: I'm always astonished that Archie comics survived past 1975. It was never my thing at all but the sheer popularity amongst not only kids but adults is amazing. The whole Archie universe (!) never seemed to be more than a three joke, two dimensional set of old fashioned, out of date characters to me. Evidently, I'm oblivious. "Simpler times..." I think there is an abiding appeal to that.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:27 pm |
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I think the greatest lesson we can take from comic books in the 90's was the more random pouches you add - the edgier the character gets.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:50 pm |
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Jeff wrote: Those were all standalone in a limited format and always intended to be so. This sounds like a revamp of the whole line. How many new comics does the whole line consist of these days? One problem with making it a line-wide revamp would be that the digests are their only mainstream market publication (and by far their best-selling publication). Those things are almost (if not completely) reprint, so they will have to continue the old look in them, unless they put one new look story in the front of each digest and have a new look cover. It seems like it will be hard for a new look to take hold with the public if your best-selling publications all feature the old look/style. Regarding your comment that Archie hasn't been interesting in a long time... did you ever think it was interesting? If so, when?
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:08 pm |
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RobertSwanderson wrote: That meddlin kid wrote: RobertSwanderson wrote: Marcus wrote: Lena Dunham?  No. Just no. Really? This is not an April Fool's Day thing? Really don't need to see Big Ethel walking around naked. Speak for yourself. 
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:22 pm |
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Jeff wrote: Jason Czeskleba wrote: How is this different from the New Look Archie of 2007? Those were all standalone in a limited format and always intended to be so. This sounds like a revamp of the whole line. I will check this out but reserve any judgement. It seems initially like a step too far. I liked the Dan DeCarlo years, where he did a great job of keeping them looking relevant in the fashions of the day, no matter the decade, and the stories ranged from adventure drama to the usual antics. You knew what you were getting, but it was all fun. Other than a handful of interesting storylines and new characters, Archie hasn't been all that interesting in a long time, Life With Archie and Afterlife aside. DeCarlo was the best! Haven't been crazy about any artist since, they don't have the skills to make B&V dream girls like they are supposed to be. RobertSwanderson wrote: Marcus wrote: Lena Dunham?  No. Just no. Oy. It seems like this is all about a kid taking over who hated the all-american, family friendly aspects of Archie, who wanted some respect in Hollywood, the media and among the fanboys, and is changing it accordingly. He has every right to do so and I'll check out a few issues but I have my doubts and little initial interest. Curious to see how Waid tackles this but based in his past, not sure if he can do it in a way that is appealing to me. As for sales increase, if you inundate the market with gimmicks, and no one in the DM was reading you anyway, of course sales would go up.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:50 pm |
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Jason Czeskleba wrote: Jeff wrote: Those were all standalone in a limited format and always intended to be so. This sounds like a revamp of the whole line. How many new comics does the whole line consist of these days? One problem with making it a line-wide revamp would be that the digests are their only mainstream market publication (and by far their best-selling publication). Those things are almost (if not completely) reprint, so they will have to continue the old look in them, unless they put one new look story in the front of each digest and have a new look cover. It seems like it will be hard for a new look to take hold with the public if your best-selling publications all feature the old look/style. Regarding your comment that Archie hasn't been interesting in a long time... did you ever think it was interesting? If so, when? Well, I thought they were doing 4 or 5 regular titles, but I guess it's just two now, aside from digests, quarterlies, and the oddball stuff like Afterlife. They collected the New Look stuff in regular digests in the past, so it stands to reason they can do the same here. It's not as if this is some massive rejection of their history. And yes, Archie used to be entertaining, with some great art by Harry Lucey, Dan DeCarlo, and others. Fun stories ranging from supernatural to "very special episodes", as well as the normal love triangle and friends/foes. But the biggest draw was the art. In the 90s the art took a dive, the stories all became about the same, and the characters blander. Stan Goldberg was no Dan DeCarlo. The current stuff, I really liked Afterlife and the recently ended Life With Archie books. The rest is dull and badly written. Archie meets Glee? I have a coffee table book "The Art of Betty and Veronica", and a load of digests (almost all predating 1990), and grew up reading Archie more than Batman or Spider-Man, so I have a different basis for my opinion than you do for yours. I had always liked Archie comics.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:53 pm |
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i hope they plan on bringing their page rates into the 21st century as well.
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Post subject: Archie Comic Publications: new look, edgier tone Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:36 pm |
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Rafael wrote: Steve wrote: Yeah, talk about a dream team. Maybe the mainline Archie book will actually deal with the issues teens actually face today, i.e. sex. And no one better than a 52 year old to do it! His girlfriend's daughter is exactly like an Archie character. Inspiration.
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