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 Post subject: Berlin 1900 IN COLOR (Which is better?)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:20 am 
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I love finding old footage. I found this footage of Berlin from 1900.. I can't help but watch and think, "If these people only knew what was coming."

In any event, pick the version you like better.

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I keep thinking... "One of you people needs to kill 11 year old Hitler."


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I would like a gif of the guys drinking at 2:28. Could any of my Imwan friends help me with that?

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I didn't even know they had color back then. I see everything prior to the Korean War as gray.


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Can someone please edit in the theme to Cheers and superimpose our faces over the Germans.


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I didn't even know they had color back then. I see everything prior to the Korean War as gray.


There were a number of short-lived color film processes in the silent era. None of them could reproduce a full spectrum of colors, because they only used two of the three primary colors. Color film of that era is often reproduced in black and white to avoid the additional trouble of restoring the color. In recent years there have been efforts to restore the old color footage. I'm amazed at how much detail they were able to recapture in this restoration. It looks sharper than most footage you see from decades later.

Any information on where this color footage came from? Or who did the restoration? It looks to me like it's early 1910s, not 1900. But that still makes it about 100 years old!

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Nagoo wrote:
I love finding old footage. I found this footage of Berlin from 1900.. I can't help but watch and think, "If these people only knew what was coming."


There is something very poignant about seeing this, knowing that the entire city would be destroyed only 30 years or so later. Most of those soldiers you see probably died in World War I, since they would have been in battle right from the start. Most of the young boys it shows playing probably served as middle-aged men in World War II.

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It's colorised. There are some scenes where a bunch of people are completely grey, and I don't think they're aliens.

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Linda wrote:
It's colorised. There are some scenes where a bunch of people are completely grey, and I don't think they're aliens.


This is what youtube says about it.

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This video contains archived public domain footage. This footage serves documentary purposes on world history and is to be viewed as educational. This video is in no means intended to be violent, or glorify violence in any way. Some of this footage was officially released by the United States government, some of the footage was obtained via the Freedom of Information Act. ALL music in our video, both in the video itself, and the outro is originally composed for us by Joshua baker (jbmusic.org).


So, I don't have an answer to if it is colorized.

But, if I was to re-edit it, I would like this song playing.


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And I just noticed that one of postcards, of the "Auto Omnibus" is taken from the color film.

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I read that at 2:50 Munich is shown, not Berlin. And at 3:08 cars are driving on the left hand side which means it is not Berlin.

I read this as well: "Munich: at 2:22 you can easily recognize Bavarian Masskrüge, 2:52 - 2:59 is at Marienplatz, 3:00 - 3:05 is Feldherrenhalle at the Odeonsplatz."

Most people agree it is colorized.

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And, now that I was looking, I can tell Marienplatz from Munich at around the 3:00 mark. People also question the aerial shot at the beginning. I don't know if the fact that the guys are drinking from "Masskrüge" means Southern Germany, but that is what Germans seem to think.

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Night Owl wrote:
I didn't even know they had color back then. I see everything prior to the Korean War as gray.


There were a number of short-lived color film processes in the silent era. None of them could reproduce a full spectrum of colors, because they only used two of the three primary colors. Color film of that era is often reproduced in black and white to avoid the additional trouble of restoring the color. In recent years there have been efforts to restore the old color footage. I'm amazed at how much detail they were able to recapture in this restoration. It looks sharper than most footage you see from decades later.

Any information on where this color footage came from? Or who did the restoration? It looks to me like it's early 1910s, not 1900. But that still makes it about 100 years old!

There is a really interesting website with pictures of WWI in color (not video, just photos). It really makes things come to life and seem more real to me somehow.
http://www.greatwar.nl/frames/default-color.html

I didn't link to the main page directly because it has a very disturbing image on it this week.


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Jeff wrote:
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Night Owl wrote:
I didn't even know they had color back then. I see everything prior to the Korean War as gray.


There were a number of short-lived color film processes in the silent era. None of them could reproduce a full spectrum of colors, because they only used two of the three primary colors. Color film of that era is often reproduced in black and white to avoid the additional trouble of restoring the color. In recent years there have been efforts to restore the old color footage. I'm amazed at how much detail they were able to recapture in this restoration. It looks sharper than most footage you see from decades later.

Any information on where this color footage came from? Or who did the restoration? It looks to me like it's early 1910s, not 1900. But that still makes it about 100 years old!

There is a really interesting website with pictures of WWI in color (not video, just photos). It really makes things come to life and seem more real to me somehow.
http://www.greatwar.nl/frames/default-color.html

I didn't link to the main page directly because it has a very disturbing image on it this week.


Black and white does have a kind of distancing effect in historic photos and archival films. Seeing those rare early color images can be jarring in the way it reminds us that these were real people in a real world, with all the color and texture of our own present.

If that footage has been colorized, whoever did it did a remarkable job of simulating very early color footage. If it is authentic early color footage it would have needed such extensive restoration work that there would have been a fine line between "restoration" and "colorization." At any rate it's probably the liveliest photographic record of that period we're ever going to see until somebody develops working time travel. In a sense that's what this footage is already.

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