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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:08 am 
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‘Fruitvale Station’ Duo Ryan Coogler And Michael B. Jordan Team With Sly Stallone On MGM ‘Rocky’ Spinoff ‘Creed’

MGM is setting Ryan Coogler to direct Creed, and the studio is in early talks with Coogler’s Fruitvale Station star Michael B. Jordan to play the grandson of Apollo Creed in a continuation of the Rocky saga that Coogler is going to write with Aaron Covington. Sylvester Stallone will reprise Rocky Balboa as a retired fighter-turned-trainer. This comes in the wake of a strong summer platform opening for Fruitvale Station, the film that won both the Grand Jury Prize and the Audience Awards at Sundance, and captured Prize Of The Future at the Cannes Film Festival, where Coogler and Jordan were the toast of the Croisette. Coogler intends for this to be his directorial follow-up to Fruitvale Station so the intention is to make it happen quickly.

Now, I know the knee-jerk reaction is to say it’s hard to get excited about what amounts to the seventh film in the Rocky series. This feels different to me, mostly because of how it came together. Much the same way that Coogler burned with the desire to tell the tragic story of Oscar Grant in his feature debut and begged Jordan to play the role in the $900,000 budget film, this whole idea also came from Coogler. When he signed with WME, Coogler identified Creed as a dream project. While Coogler already had the relationship with Jordan, the agency put him together with Stallone. Stallone, who is right now heavily involved in a stage musical transfer of his original Oscar-winning 1976 film Rocky, loved the idea and felt it was strong enough for him to bring back his signature screen character. Stallone and Coogler then approached MGM’s Gary Barber and Jon Glickman, and they flipped for it. The film will be produced by Irwin Winkler and Robert Chartoff, who produced the original, along with Stallone and Kevin King.

The intention is for Jordan to play the grandson of Apollo Creed (played in the early movies by Carl Weathers). Raised in an upper-crust home thanks to the ring riches earned by his grandfather, the young man doesn’t have to box and his family doesn’t want him to. Yet, he has the natural instinct and gifts and potential that made his grandfather the heavyweight champion until Rocky Balboa took his crown in 1979′s Rocky II. Creed’s grandson needs a mentor and turns to Balboa, who is out of boxing completely and not eager to return.

Balboa was Apollo Creed’s greatest opponent and later his best friend until that fateful moment when Balboa heeded Creed’s wishes and didn’t stop the fight against the Soviet fighter Drago (played by Dolph Lungdren in 1985′s Rocky IV) before the giant delivered what proved to be a fatal beating.

What is intriguing is how Coogler intends to plug back into the mythology of the first three Rocky films, which were the best ones, and then move the story forward. Jordan seems perfect for the role, given his charisma and intensity, and the fact he’s a natural athlete and was a most convincing quarterback in the final seasons of Friday Night Lights. Coogler played college football on a scholarship as a wide receiver, so he has a background in jock culture. The deal is being finalized by WME, which reps Coogler, Jordan and Stallone. Jordan is managed by The Schiff Company and lawyered by Gregory Slewett.

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 Post subject: Creed (Movie) (2015)
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:14 am 
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I'm more excited about this than any superhero movie.


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 Post subject: Creed (Movie) (2015)
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:22 am 
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Based on Rocky VI, I would be up for this, but it reminds me of how they killed Apollo Creed in the shittiest way in the lameass Rocky IV...

Still, Rocky.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:25 am 
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It reminds me of how awesome Rocky IV was.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:26 am 
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 Post subject: Creed (Movie) (2015)
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:38 am 
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The franchise was played out, and that was an interesting way to go (fighting a Russian symbol). The script had to create dramatic tension as to why in the heck Rocky would feel the need to beat the guy. The Apollo Creed fight was a decent "Act One" to get it going -- Creed's desire to get back in the ring seemed understandable, and the death gave the whole movie a sense of jeopardy and tension. And it worked nicely for Rocky to be trained again by Apollo's crew.

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 Post subject: Creed (Movie) (2015)
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:48 am 
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I thought it was absolutely terrible.

This guy can punch so hard he kills Apollo in 2 rounds but Rocky can survive 15? At that point I was a big Apollo fan after Rocky III and thought this was a really cheap way to kill him, all for some hacky revenge plot.

I think this was the worst Rocky of them all, even worse than V. No character development, no humor (just awkward scenes with Paulie and his robot), a dull villain, and a story comprised of montages. Seriously, four fucking montages set to shitty 80s music. 1 flashback montages to "No Easy Way Out", 2 training montages, and then a fight montage. There's no fucking story except "friend dies, train hard, win boxing match".

Oh and getting rid of Bill Conti and his amazing score and goin with bullshit 80s synthesizer music? Good thinking, Sly.


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 Post subject: Creed (Movie) (2015)
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:55 am 
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After Clubber Lang you've got nowhere to go but down.


It's not an easy franchise to sustain, and I sort of grade on a curve as each movie comes out.

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Li'l Jay wrote:
The franchise was played out, and that was an interesting way to go (fighting a Russian symbol). The script had to create dramatic tension as to why in the heck Rocky would feel the need to beat the guy. The Apollo Creed fight was a decent "Act One" to get it going -- Creed's desire to get back in the ring seemed understandable, and the death gave the whole movie a sense of jeopardy and tension. And it worked nicely for Rocky to be trained again by Apollo's crew.


It was a pretty lame film. The best part was James Brown.


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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
I think this was the worst Rocky of them all, even worse than V. No character development, no humor (just awkward scenes with Paulie and his robot), a dull villain, and a story comprised of montages. Seriously, four fucking montages set to shitty 80s music. 1 flashback montages to "No Easy Way Out", 2 training montages, and then a fight montage. There's no fucking story except "friend dies, train hard, win boxing match".


You forgot the subtle "Yay, America!" subtext.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:04 am 
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Bolgani Gogo wrote:
Hanzo the Razor wrote:
I think this was the worst Rocky of them all, even worse than V. No character development, no humor (just awkward scenes with Paulie and his robot), a dull villain, and a story comprised of montages. Seriously, four fucking montages set to shitty 80s music. 1 flashback montages to "No Easy Way Out", 2 training montages, and then a fight montage. There's no fucking story except "friend dies, train hard, win boxing match".


You forgot the subtle "Yay, America!" subtext.


He was only listing bad points. That was a huge plus.

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James Brown's "Yay, America!" was awesome.


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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
I thought it was absolutely terrible.

This guy can punch so hard he kills Apollo in 2 rounds but Rocky can survive 15? At that point I was a big Apollo fan after Rocky III and thought this was a really cheap way to kill him, all for some hacky revenge plot.

I think this was the worst Rocky of them all, even worse than V. No character development, no humor (just awkward scenes with Paulie and his robot), a dull villain, and a story comprised of montages. Seriously, four fucking montages set to shitty 80s music. 1 flashback montages to "No Easy Way Out", 2 training montages, and then a fight montage. There's no fucking story except "friend dies, train hard, win boxing match".

Oh and getting rid of Bill Conti and his amazing score and goin with bullshit 80s synthesizer music? Good thinking, Sly.


I have never agreed with you more than I do right now. :applaud:

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 Post subject: Creed (Movie) (2015)
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Li'l Jay wrote:
Bolgani Gogo wrote:
Hanzo the Razor wrote:
I think this was the worst Rocky of them all, even worse than V. No character development, no humor (just awkward scenes with Paulie and his robot), a dull villain, and a story comprised of montages. Seriously, four fucking montages set to shitty 80s music. 1 flashback montages to "No Easy Way Out", 2 training montages, and then a fight montage. There's no fucking story except "friend dies, train hard, win boxing match".


You forgot the subtle "Yay, America!" subtext.


He was only listing bad points. That was a huge plus.

The training montages were the only good thing about the movie, besides James Brown.


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Still, it is a Rocky movie so I've seen it like eight times. :)


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 Post subject: Creed (Movie) (2015)
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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
I thought it was absolutely terrible.

This guy can punch so hard he kills Apollo in 2 rounds but Rocky can survive 15? At that point I was a big Apollo fan after Rocky III and thought this was a really cheap way to kill him, all for some hacky revenge plot.

I think this was the worst Rocky of them all, even worse than V. No character development, no humor (just awkward scenes with Paulie and his robot), a dull villain, and a story comprised of montages. Seriously, four fucking montages set to shitty 80s music. 1 flashback montages to "No Easy Way Out", 2 training montages, and then a fight montage. There's no fucking story except "friend dies, train hard, win boxing match".

Oh and getting rid of Bill Conti and his amazing score and goin with bullshit 80s synthesizer music? Good thinking, Sly.


Rocky IV was the highest grossing of all the Rocky films, so they obviously did something right.


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Rocky: Have dream, train hard, ties boxing match.

Rocky II: Want rematch, train hard, win boxing match.

Rocky III: Lose fight, train hard, win rematch.

Rocky V: Who. Gives. A. Fuck.

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Rafael wrote:
Rocky: Have dream, train hard, ties boxing match.

Rocky II: Want rematch, train hard, win boxing match.

Rocky III: Lose fight, train hard, win rematch.

Rocky V: Who. Gives. A. Fuck.


No, no, Rocky IV was Who Gives A Fuck. Rocky V was Can't box, so trains protege, be abandoned by protege for Don King, protege tries to bully the old man for publicity gets his ass kicked instead.


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I'm fairly certain that the plot of Rocky V is Who. Gives. A. Fuck.

The plot of Rocky IV is Friend dies, train hard, win boxing match, ends Cold War.

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Rafael wrote:
I'm fairly certain that the plot of Rocky V is Who. Gives. A. Fuck.

The plot of Rocky IV is milk overdone formula, throw in commie threat to pander to audience since I'm out if actual ideas.

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Rocky IV definitely suffered from the MTV influence of the times.
Getting a song from your movie, with a montage of scenes, into heavy rotation, before the movie came out, was considered free advertising. St. Elmo's Fire was a big winner this way.


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