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Monk
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer  Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:26 pm |
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aka "The Claremont Curse".
Okay, a few givens (based on my opinion)
1) Chris Claremont's best work was on X-Men
2) Several talented writers have worked on the book besides Claremont
3) All of those writers have turned in, if not bad work, at the least some of their worst work.
So, what otherwise talented writer would you say has done their worst work on an X-book?
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Night Owl
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:58 pm |
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The curse of the X-Men is that there are too many books to allow for a coherent vision which also makes it disruptive to the epic stories that made the book popular in the 80s.
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Mike Howell
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:01 pm |
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Love X-Men, love Ed Brubaker. Hated Ed Brubaker writing X-Men.
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Fraxon!
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:05 pm |
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Junkie Luv
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:23 pm |
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As dull and repetitive as they are
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Fraxon! wrote: Chuck Austen That's who I was thinking of, but was he ever talented?
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Professor Plum
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:27 pm |
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Paroled evil genius
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Didn't Mark Waid have a run on the X-Men in the 90s?
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Bobson Dugnutt
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:28 pm |
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MLVGB Champion, '92-'94
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Night Owl wrote: The curse of the X-Men is that there are too many books to allow for a coherent vision which also makes it disruptive to the epic stories that made the book popular in the 80s. They just need to bring Bob Harras back to edit the books into a large cohesive story like he did in the 90s. 
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Fraxon!
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:11 pm |
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Junkie Luv wrote: Fraxon! wrote: Chuck Austen That's who I was thinking of, but was he ever talented? He wrote and drew some porn comics in the early 90's that were quite good. QUITE.
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Li'l Jay
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:49 pm |
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It scorched
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At some point I think we have to consider the possibility that the X-Men suck.
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Fraxon!
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:52 pm |
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Li'l Jay wrote: At some point I think we have to consider the possibility that the X-Men suck. 
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:10 pm |
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Li'l Jay wrote: At some point I think we have to consider the possibility that the X-Men suck. Eureka!
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Rafael
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:05 pm |
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My least favorite works of Grant Morrison, Warren Ellis and Ed Brubaker were on the X-Men.
I preferred Seagle, Kelly and Carey on the X-Men than on other books, though.
Millar has little talent to kill, so there.
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Rafael
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:06 pm |
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Professor Plum wrote: Didn't Mark Waid have a run on the X-Men in the 90s? Yeah, four or five issues. Maybe a bit more. He left because he disagreed with Lobdell about he nature of Onslaught.
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Fraxon!
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:12 pm |
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Rafael wrote: Professor Plum wrote: Didn't Mark Waid have a run on the X-Men in the 90s? Yeah, four or five issues. Maybe a bit more. He left because he disagreed with Lobdell about he nature of Onslaught. I was heartened by an interview he gave where he said that he had listed all of the dangling plot-lines in the books and had promised to resolve them all within a year's time. Then he was booted off of the book. 
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Ocean Doot
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:13 pm |
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Looks like I'm adding some folks to my Foe list.
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Monk
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:24 pm |
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My pick was Brubaker. Given the quality of his creator-owned work (Criminal, Incognito, Fatale) and other superhero work (Captain America, Daredevil) his X-Men comics were just a crushing disappointment.
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Li'l Jay
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:25 pm |
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Monk wrote: X-Men comics are just a crushing disappointment. Agreed.
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Monk
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:32 pm |
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Li'l Jay wrote: Monk wrote: X-Men comics are just a crushing disappointment. Agreed. Claremont on X-Men, New Mutants, and Excalibur says you're wrong. As does Science.
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Simon
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:33 pm |
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Li'l Jay wrote: At some point I think we have to consider the possibility that the X-Men suck. I'm also a proponent of this theory.
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:33 pm |
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Monk wrote: Li'l Jay wrote: Monk wrote: X-Men comics are just a crushing disappointment. Agreed. Claremont on X-Men, New Mutants, and Excalibur says you're wrong. As does Science. Claremont jumped the shark with Mutant Massacre.
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Monk
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:34 pm |
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Bolgani Gogo wrote: Monk wrote: Li'l Jay wrote: Monk wrote: X-Men comics are just a crushing disappointment. Agreed. Claremont on X-Men, New Mutants, and Excalibur says you're wrong. As does Science. Claremont jumped the shark with Mutant Massacre. I disagree,but even then there are about 10 years worth of Claremont comics before that.
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Night Owl
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Post subject: X-Men = Talent Killer Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:35 pm |
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The only fail in Claremont's run was Madelyn Pryor. Other than that, the writing was flawless.
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