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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 1:20 am 
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This is a tough question. I have no problem scoring Moore's Swamp Thing and Gaiman's Sandman to DC, but here it becomes really one sided towards DC titles that aren't really DC. Moore's ABC, Ellis' Planetary and Authority, Y: The Last Man, Fables. Marvel doesn't have anything near that quality.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:15 am 
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Gotta go with the indys this time. DC and Marvel were having a contest to see who could suck more.


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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:57 am 
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Marvel's best of the 2000s:

New X-Men
Daredevil by Bendis & Maleev
Captain America by Brubaker
The Ultimates
Fantastic Four by Millar & Hitch
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Daredevil by Brubaker & Lark
Whatever Alan Davis does
Eternals by Gaiman & Jrjr

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Don't know that any comic book publisher won this decade.This was the time superhero movies started to overshadow the comics.Anyway,if the fight is between ID Crisis and Civil War,we all lose.

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Indies...and my lumping Vertigo into indies rather than DC. :)


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DC's best of the 2000s:

100 Bullets
Fables
Justice
All-Star Superman
Batman: Hush
Green Lantern by Johns and Reis
JSA
ABC Comics
Legion Lost
Superboy's Legion
Final Crisis was awesome, but I don't really know what it was all about.
Endless Nights


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Just looking at these two, I go for Civil War.

I thought Identity Crisis was just painful to read while Civil War at least had an interesting premise behind it. The main problem with that book is that the character all are back to the status quo at this point, as if anyone could forget the events of a war like this.


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Night Owl wrote:
DC's best of the 2000s:

100 Bullets
Fables
Justice
All-Star Superman
Batman: Hush
Green Lantern by Johns and Reis
JSA
ABC Comics
Legion Lost
Superboy's Legion
Final Crisis was awesome, but I don't really know what it was all about.
Endless Nights


Anything else?

Does Batman: Hush really belong up there? It has some really nice Jim Lee art, but by that logic, WildCATs or Superman: For Tomorrow should be up there as well.


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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:17 am 
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Indies win the 2000s for me. Box Office Poison, Tricked, Blankets, Goodbye Chunky Rice, Asterios Polyp, Criminal, Y: The Last Man, Walking Dead, Fables, Bone, Tellos, etc, etc, etc. Marvel and DC flew off the rails that decade and don't even come close.


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Rafael wrote:
This is a tough question. I have no problem scoring Moore's Swamp Thing and Gaiman's Sandman to DC, but here it becomes really one sided towards DC titles that aren't really DC. Moore's ABC, Ellis' Planetary and Authority, Y: The Last Man, Fables. Marvel doesn't have anything near that quality.

Taking away ABC and Warren Ellis' Wildstorm work from DC, I score this for Marvel.

Bendis' Daredevil, Brubaker's Captain America, and Millar's Ultimates put them over the top.

But then, there is All Star Superman and Red Son, which I like more than all those. And if you take ABC and Warren Ellis from DC, that puts them in the indies category...

I dunno, it's a wash. I can't really say anyone really outdid the others in any substantial way.


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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
]Does Batman: Hush really belong up there? It has some really nice Jim Lee art, but by that logic, WildCATs or Superman: For Tomorrow should be up there as well.


I thought it was fun despite Lee's horrible depictions of the Joker and Riddler. I can put it in the "almost made it" category.


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I do like Bendis / Maleev's Daredevil and re-read it frequently.


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Night Owl wrote:
Hanzo the Razor wrote:
Does Batman: Hush really belong up there? It has some really nice Jim Lee art, but by that logic, WildCATs or Superman: For Tomorrow should be up there as well.

I thought it was fun despite Lee's horrible depictions of the Joker and Riddler. I can put it in the "almost made it" category.

I didn't mind Lee's renditions of those two characters, but I thought Loeb's pandering, fan fiction-esque story was a deal-killer. To be great, both the art and story have to measure up -- without Jim Lee, Hush isn't even on the radar.


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New Frontier, Grant Morrison's Superman/Seven Soldiers/Batman/Vertigo titles, Geoff Johns' Green Lantern, Gotham Central, Ellis' Authority/Planetary, Fables. Ok, I'm giving it to DC. Marvel only true quality title was Brubaker's Cap.

But I'm calling the 10s for Marvel.

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Agreed. Marvel is smoking DC so far. I'd hold up Dan Slott's Spider-Man run against the entire NuDC lineup.


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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
Night Owl wrote:
Hanzo the Razor wrote:
Does Batman: Hush really belong up there? It has some really nice Jim Lee art, but by that logic, WildCATs or Superman: For Tomorrow should be up there as well.

I thought it was fun despite Lee's horrible depictions of the Joker and Riddler. I can put it in the "almost made it" category.

I didn't mind Lee's renditions of those two characters, but I thought Loeb's pandering, fan fiction-esque story was a deal-killer. To be great, both the art and story have to measure up -- without Jim Lee, Hush isn't even on the radar.


It's ok. The lists are balanced because Ultimates are there on Marvel's column.

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Agreed. Marvel is smoking DC so far. I'd hold up Dan Slott's Spider-Man run against the entire NuDC lineup.


Slott, Hickman, Aaron, Brubaker. These guys are making the best runs since the 60s.

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I like Bru's Fatale better than his Cap at the moment, but yeah.


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Night Owl wrote:
DC's best of the 2000s:

100 Bullets
Fables
Justice
All-Star Superman
Batman: Hush
Green Lantern by Johns and Reis
JSA
ABC Comics
Legion Lost
Superboy's Legion
Final Crisis was awesome, but I don't really know what it was all about.
Endless Nights


Anything else?


Didn't Hush suck, though? Am I mixing it up with something else?


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New Frontier was my favorite DC book of the 00s.


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Bolgani Gogo wrote:
Didn't Hush suck, though? Am I mixing it up with something else?


I don't even know any more. It sells boatloads in reprints and that seems to be the standard for Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns for being the greatest of the 80s.


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