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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:03 am 
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Well, I caved.Reading many good things about the Who reissues coming out of Japan and these two comps are probably my fave amongst with "Odds & Sods".

The Who / Who's Missing & Two's Missing +11 [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] [SHM-CD] [Limited Release] has new remastering The originals came out quite awhile back and go for big bucks on EBay. I actually have the original issues but with the generous bonus tracks (11) I had to go for it.

Here is the track listing:

Who's Missing & Two's Missing
Catalogue Number : UICY94786

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Disc 1
1. Shout And Shimmy (Mono)
2. Leaving Here
3. Anytime You Want Me (Mono)
4. Lubie (Come Back Home)
5. Barbara Ann (Mono)
6. I'm A Boy (Mono)
7. Mary-Anne With The Shaky Hands (US single version) (Mono)
8. Heaven And Hell
9. Here For More
10. I Don't Even Know Myself
11. When I Was a Boy
12. Bargain (Live in San Francisco 1971)
13. Doctor, Doctor (Bonus Track) (Mono)
14. Someone's Coming (US single version) (Bonus Track) (Mono)
15. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (UK single version) (Bonus Track) (Mono)
16. Postcard (Cancelled EP version) (Bonus Track)
17. Baby Don't You Do It (Live in San Francisco 1971) (Bonus Truck)

Disc 2
1. Bald-Headed Woman (Mono)
2. Under My Thumb (Mono)
3. My Wife (Live in San Francisco 1971)
4. I'm A Man
5. Dogs (Mono)
6. Dogs Part. 2
7. Circles (Mono)
8. The Last Time (Mono)
9. Water
10. Daddy Rolling Stone
11. Heat Wave
12. Goin' Down (Live in San Francisco 1971)
13. Motoring
14. Waspman
15. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (US single version) (Bonus Track) (Mono)
16. I Don't Even Know Myself (Cancelled EP version)) (Bonus Track)
17. Eyesight To The Blind (Alternative Vocal) (Bonus Track)
18. Call Me Lightning (Bonus Track) (Mono)

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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:21 am 
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So...wait a second:

There were two different versions of "Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde"?

There were two different versions of "I Don't Even KNow Myself?"

(I know about the two versions of "Eyesight To The Blind")

Are these available nowhere else? In other words, I'm still happy with my ancient MCA copies of these two albums, and I'm not sure how rare the other 11 tracks are.


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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:28 am 
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I've got the two MCA CDs as well as the Rarities Vols. I & II comp, but I'm in for these reissues, as well.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:32 am 
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Thanks for the tip on this - My order is in!

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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:14 am 
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Brainiac McGee wrote:
So...wait a second:

There were two different versions of "Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde"?

There were two different versions of "I Don't Even KNow Myself?"


The common version of "I Don't Even Know Myself" dates from the 1971 Who's Next sessions. That's the version that was a originally a b-side, and also appears on the Rarities CD and the 1995 Who's Next reissue. The other version is from 1970, recorded at the same sessions that produced Water, Naked Eye, Now I'm a Farmer, and Postcard. As far as I know, that version has only been released as a Japan-only bonus track on the 1994 Now and Then compilation. FWIW I prefer the rarer 1970 version.

There is only one version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde but two different mixes. The US mix is on the old Magic Bus CD, and the UK version is on the Rarities CD.


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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:49 pm 
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I oirdered one too. I'm usually pretty good at resisting "new" Who repackages, but somehow I missed hearing about the Japanese "Then And Now" back when it was released, so...there you go. This is actually the first time I've given in and picked up one of these Japanese Who sets.

That said, it was my understanding that old MCA Who CD's such as these should be treasured because they were mastered by Steve Hoffman.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:18 pm 
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Link? Not sure I want to cave on it, but if the old MCAs are going for enough on ebay, maybe I will sell the old ones to get these.

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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:38 pm 
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I know I have the original vinyls but not sure about the CDs.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:02 pm 
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I just grabbed it from an Ebay seller that offered $3 shipping from Tokyo. It should show up in about a month.


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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:25 pm 
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alantig wrote:
Link? Not sure I want to cave on it, but if the old MCAs are going for enough on ebay, maybe I will sell the old ones to get these.

Alan


Who's Missing is still in print in Canada and available cheaply. Two's Missing is the one that's out of print and sells for big bucks (or at least amazon sellers are asking big bucks for it... I don't know if they actually get them).


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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:57 pm 
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Jimbo wrote:
I've got the two MCA CDs as well as the Rarities Vols. I & II comp, but I'm in for these reissues, as well.

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It's interesting how, while working with the same album concept, the US and the UK came up with such radically different albums.

Album art:
UK--About as generic as album artwork gets. Two seperate albums with identical covers and even less on the back other than basic song info.
US--Completely new artwork for both albums. Townshend wrote an essay for "Who's Missing", Entwistle wrote liner notes for "Two's". I have to wonder why Japan isn't creating seperate mini-sleeves for both releases.

Tracklisting:
UK--Arranged more or less chronologically, the first volume covering 1966-68, the second ostensibly covering 1970-72, although "Water" was released in 1973. Tracks on the individual albums are somehwhat chronologically arranged as well.
US--Tracklisting for both albums decidedly non-chronological

Track selection:
UK--All tracks, although rare, had been previously released. Prior to the release of Who remasters in 1994, this set very neatly filled in several major holes in the Who discography, including "Ready, Steady, Who", the "Under My Thumb/Last Time" single, and (I believe) all other post-Talmy B-sides by the band. I was commenting in another thread recently how the Who's catalog has changed so much in the past decade-and-a-half or so; their cover of "Batman" was an import-only track for nearly thirty years before showing up on the 1995 "A Quick One" reissue.
US--Not as commprehensive, but did include previously unavailable material, such as the live "Bargain", as well as Talmy-era tracks ("Bald Headed Woman" and "Leaving Here")

Despite some song overlap, I think that both collections are essential. I would also point out, that unlike many such comps, both are quite listenable. These tracks may have been leftovers, but they're great leftovers.


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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:54 pm 
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alantig wrote:
Link? Not sure I want to cave on it, but if the old MCAs are going for enough on ebay, maybe I will sell the old ones to get these.

Alan


Sell them on the Hoffman board -- you'll get a nice chunk of change if you do. :ohyes:

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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:09 pm 
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Brainiac McGee wrote:
That said, it was my understanding that old MCA Who CD's such as these should be treasured because they were mastered by Steve Hoffman.


Although Steve Hoffman mastered both the "Who's Missing" and "Two's Missing" titles on vinyl, he only mastered "Who's Missing" on cd. For some reason MCA had someone else master "Two's Missing" to compact disc.

I bought both "Odds & Sods" and "WM/TM" from cdjapan and I've got to tell you - these titles are very nice indeed, and loaded with newer/different mixes of the original tracks and the bonus cuts are excellent as well. I'm tempted to order the "Singles +" and maybe 1 or 2 other titles, they are that good. These are numbered limited editions, by the way. My WM/TM is #1420, and O&S is #0181. I don't know how many copies they are going to press.


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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
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Brainiac McGee wrote:
It's interesting how, while working with the same album concept, the US and the UK came up with such radically different albums.


Kinda like comparing the British and US versions of the Beatles' Rarities album.

The Who's Rarities set was designed to compliment Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy... combined with that set, you have all the Who's single a and b sides, with the exception of a few Talmy-era b-sides and the single version of I'm a Boy.

By contrast, the Missing albums were designed to compile any leftover tracks that had never appeared on a US album. As such, they purposely omitted any tracks that had already been on the US-only Magic Bus compilation LP.

I agree that the album covers for Rarities are shockingly bland and it's strange they used the same cover on both LPs. The no-brainer choice would have been to use the photo that appears on the cover of The Who in their Own Words for the first volume, and then use the 1971-era photo where they repeat that same pose for the second volume.

One thing about the Missing albums is that they underscore the biggest, most frustrating omission in the Who catalog... the fact that the complete 1971 San Francisco show has not been released.


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Although Steve Hoffman mastered both the "Who's Missing" and "Two's Missing" titles on vinyl, he only mastered "Who's Missing" on cd. For some reason MCA had someone else master "Two's Missing" to compact disc.


I thought Two's Missing sounded pretty good on CD.

Well, now I know better!!

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Dr. Chris Evil wrote:
jsayers wrote:
Although Steve Hoffman mastered both the "Who's Missing" and "Two's Missing" titles on vinyl, he only mastered "Who's Missing" on cd. For some reason MCA had someone else master "Two's Missing" to compact disc.


I thought Two's Missing sounded pretty good on CD.

Well, now I know better!!

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Oh my God--you're right. It sounds horrendous! What was I thinking?


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 Post subject: [2012-01-03] The Who "Who's Missing & Two's Missing" +11 (Universal Japan)
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Just got a notice that it was shipped today. Starting to get real excited. I can't keep the new Quad box reissue out of my player. I'm so into the Who at the moment.

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Just got these in the mail only moments ago. I have not played them yet, but it is worth noting that the set actually consists of a mini-sleeve for both "Who's Missing" and "Two's Missing". There is a single obi strip for both sleeves, however.


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You can amend the tracklisting for the "Who's Missing" disc to include 18 songs--a studio version of "Fortune Teller" (apparently the "Thirty Years Of Maximum R & B" version) is found between "Dr. Jekyll And Mr. Hyde" and "Postcard". Also, "Two's Missing" is 19 tracks; the five bonus tracks are in a slightly different order and now include the studio version of "Melancholia" (also from the "Thirty Years" boxed set and also on the first 1995 expanded "The Who Sell Out").

What else...the live version of "Baby Don't You Do It" includes an onstage spoken intro from Roger and Pete that I'd swear wasn't on the "View From A Backstage Pass" set (it definitely is not on "Rarities".)

Finally, included with the set is a miniature reproduction of what apparently was the sticker originally found on the "Who's Missing" shrinkwrap.


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Brainiac McGee , you got me all excited! I thought mine would be here as well. Maybe by the W/E.!

Can't wait to check it out, what are your thoughts of the sound?

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Brainiac McGee wrote:
the live version of "Baby Don't You Do It" includes an onstage spoken intro from Roger and Pete that I'd swear wasn't on the "View From A Backstage Pass" set (it definitely is not on "Rarities".)


It's my understanding that this is the first-ever release of the complete unedited version of that recording, and it should be almost three minutes longer than the edited version which appears on Rarities and VFABP. I'm hoping this stuff gets a domestic release. I'd particularly love to hear this unedited track as well as the Who version of No Road Romance that's on the new Who Are You disc. But I can't justify paying import prices just to get the handful of tracks I need.


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