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Eric W.H. Taft
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:01 am |
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The FINAL FOUR is Here!
Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 4, Match 1
Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca
Citizen Kane. A groundbreaking, highly influential faux biopic touted as one of the greatest films of all time. It tops film lists, garners raves and is the focus of entire film classes. From its style to story to performances, Citizen Kane is considered peerless.
Casablanca. Bogart's finest hour is delightful, dialogue-driven classic with a great ensemble cast that has stood the test of time like few others. Still one of the most popular and belved films of all time, Casablanca is all that was right about Goldan Age Hollywood.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:05 am |
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Casablanca. The perfect movie.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:08 am |
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Citizen Kane. The perfect movie.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:12 am |
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:27 am |
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:28 am |
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Casablanca. Good performances, story, message, lines. Very few dated scenes.
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Eric W.H. Taft
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:54 am |
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Casablanca vs. Citizen Kane. Wow. Not an easy choice. Ultimately, I have to go with Citizen Kane over Casablanca. Simply put, it has a lot more to offer.
Both films feature strong scripts, with Casablanca getting the edge in dialogue, Kane winning in story and structure. Even deal, there. The banter in Casablanca is genius, and few films are more quotable. Meanwhile, Kane’s story of a man of bloated ego falling into an empty life of loneliness still resonates, while its twisting narrative is only now becoming influential.
Same with performances. Both are excellent in this regard. Kane is the more impressive, though. Casablanca is filled with character actors doing the characters they had always done. By the time Casablanca was made, most of them were known quantities, playing the kind of characters they had played so many times before. They’re fun and entertaining and charismatic, which earns HUGE points, but the cast in Kane inhabit their roles in a way Casablanca’s actors do not. I am entertained by the folks in Casablanca; I believe the folks in Kane. Welles especially is stunning, stunning, stunning, playing a vibrant young man, an aspiring politician, an obsessive older man, and a bitter, lonely elderly man. Fookin’ amazing.
As far as directing goes, it’s not even close. Casablanca is capably directed, but is largely typical of that era’s films. They caught lightning in a bottle and made a gem, all the elements coming together wonderfully, but it never takes my breath away like Citizen Kane does. Kane’s photography is gorgeous, the compositions divine, the cuts, the pacing, all of it. I get totally wrapped up in the world Welles created each and every time I watch it. Welles was way ahead of his time.
I will not weep if Casablanca ultimately wins, as I think it’s one of the all-time greats, but I think for all these reasons (and more), Citizen Kane is the better film. I'm equally entertained by both (though in different ways), but rarely does Casablanca impress me the way Kane does.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:58 am |
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I guess I should watch Citizen Kane, eh?
Great sales job Eric! 
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:11 pm |
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I'll have to go with Casablanca.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:23 pm |
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I'm in an arguing mood, but I just can't disagree. What Eric said.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:24 pm |
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:41 pm |
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Eric W.H. Taft
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:43 pm |
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Scott: Check out Ebert's commentary. It's good fun.
I LOVE the Bogart documentary on disc two, too.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:56 pm |
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Eric W.H. Taft wrote: Scott: Check out Ebert's commentary. It's good fun. Thanks for the recommendation. Commentary tracks are really hit-or-miss. There's no real formula to them yet. Quote: I LOVE the Bogart documentary on disc two, too. The more Bogie movies I saw the more I realised he wasn't just a lisping John Wayne. For you kids, Bogart was the predecessor to Harrison Ford. He had a knack for selecting interesting characters. The success of THE AFRICAN QUEEN and THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE rest heavily on Humphrey Bogart's shoulders!
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:52 pm |
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That was an easy vote. It's clearly Citizen Kane.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:36 pm |
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Ian Sokoliwski wrote: Why does Rick not get on the plane?
Because the problems of three people don't amount to a hill of beans in this world.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:36 pm |
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:17 am |
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I can still see Casablanca in my head, hear the voices, feel the movie. Citizen Kane, well, it has some of that feeling, but I have no desire to see it again. I do want to watch Casablanca again.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:17 am |
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Very close
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Eric W.H. Taft
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:51 am |
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Ahhh, it was tied last night when I went to bed. A few Casablanca votes in the wee hours, but still neck and neck. With a few days still left, this one may go down to the wire.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:11 pm |
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Ian Sokoliwski wrote: Why does Rick not get on the plane?
Ian, you silly goose. There's no one named "Rick" in CITIZEN KANE.
Sheesh. Some people.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Final Four 1: Citizen Kane vs. Casablanca Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:42 pm |
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