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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:35 am 
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Hot chicks kicking ass.

I give it two thumbs up.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:05 am 
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I think you should sucker punch yourself in the nuts.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:16 am 
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Glad to hear you liked the movie, Bully! What was your favorite part?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:14 pm 
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What if I don't ever plan on watching it?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:26 pm 
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Your perspective will be welcomed.

What did you enjoy about the movie, despite not having seen it?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:03 pm 
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I liked the use of Zep's "When The Levee Breaks" in the trailer.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:04 pm 
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The actual movie has some pretty good covers, I think. Two favorites were a soft duet version of the Pixies' "Where Is My Mind" and a female singer doing the Beatles' "Tomorrow Never Knows."


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I plan on seeing it, it looks like mindless entertainment to me. Oh, and girls in skirts fighting...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:22 pm 
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Ocean Doot wrote:
The actual movie has some pretty good covers, I think. Two favorites were a soft duet version of the Pixies' "Where Is My Mind" and a female singer doing the Beatles' "Tomorrow Never Knows."


This actually makes me not want to see the movie more. Where is My Mind will forever belong to Fight Club.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:23 pm 
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Jim Bracjey wrote:
Ocean Doot wrote:
The actual movie has some pretty good covers, I think. Two favorites were a soft duet version of the Pixies' "Where Is My Mind" and a female singer doing the Beatles' "Tomorrow Never Knows."


This actually makes me not want to see the movie more. Where is My Mind will forever belong to Fight Club.


It does.

If it were the Pixies version, I would agree, but the cover is so different that I didn't mind.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:52 pm 
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I think I will enjoy it once I see it.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:58 pm 
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I'm planning to see SUCKER PUNCH this coming weekend. I figure that it'll either be a cult classic down the line (i.e., sometime after the dvd release), or it'll just be a total disaster. I'm hoping for the former. If Doot likes it, then that gives me hope.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:28 pm 
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My son liked it, so I'll post for him.

My son is only 4. Was it bad parenting to let him see this movie by himself? :think:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:39 pm 
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FWIW, the woman who reviewed it at Tor.com thought it was great and deep and important and that all the haters just didn't get it. http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/03/sucker ... king-about

Meanwhile, Annalee at io9's review was titled "Sucker Punch goes beyond awful to become commentary on the death of moviemaking," and while that's obviously hyperbole, I frequently find I agree with her about stuff. http://io9.com/#!5785590/sucker-punch-g ... oviemaking


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:24 am 
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Stephen Strange wrote:
FWIW, the woman who reviewed it at Tor.com thought it was great and deep and important and that all the haters just didn't get it. http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/03/sucker ... king-about

Meanwhile, Annalee at io9's review was titled "Sucker Punch goes beyond awful to become commentary on the death of moviemaking," and while that's obviously hyperbole, I frequently find I agree with her about stuff. http://io9.com/#!5785590/sucker-punch-g ... oviemaking


The latter is much closer to the truth of the matter, I think.

It really is just down to how much you're willing to ignore all you've learned about what constitutes good storytelling. If you're willing to ignore it completely -- like Snyder did -- then you'll have a great time. :)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:30 am 
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I haven't been disappointed by a Snyder film(yet), I liked his Dawn of the Dead remake, 300 & Watchmen so I'll give this a shot.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:41 am 
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Scott wrote:
My son liked it, so I'll post for him.

My son is only 4. Was it bad parenting to let him see this movie by himself? :think:


Naaaah!


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I'm getting tired of all those pretentiously bad movies like Transformers 2, The Last Airbender and now Sucker Punch which are in reality a metacommentary on the destruction of the art form.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:47 am 
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I'm getting tired of all those pretentiously bad movies like Transformers 2, The Last Airbender and now Sucker Punch which are in reality a metacommentary on the destruction of the art form.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:52 am 
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Actually now having read both articles, I think the reality is probably somewhere in the middle. The first review gives Snyder too much credit, I think -- assigning clever motivations to aspects of the script that, to me at least, seemed more like the result of storytelling laziness.

The second review points out a lot of the problematic aspects, but also doesn't approach the movie on the same terms that the movie approaches us.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:18 am 
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Usually, the best way to measure if reviewers are giving Zack Snyder too much credit is this: Are they giving him any credit at all? If the answer is yes, then yes, they are giving him too much credit.

What are the terms in which the movie approaches the audience, Doot? I'd like to know so I can complain bitterly, like any good citizen of the internets.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:51 am 
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Rafael wrote:
Usually, the best way to measure if reviewers are giving Zack Snyder too much credit is this: Are they giving him any credit at all? If the answer is yes, then yes, they are giving him too much credit.

What are the terms in which the movie approaches the audience, Doot? I'd like to know so I can complain bitterly, like any good citizen of the internets.


I guess what I mean is that Snyder deliberately leaves a lot of gaps in the story. Personally I think he does that to absolve himself of responsibility. It’s a clever dodge, but again I think he does so out of laziness.

That said, you can’t accuse him of making certain connections, because he deliberately *doesn’t* make those connections. At the same time, you can’t give him too much credit for a clever connection that you – the audience – makes. In other words, any connection you make is kind of all on you. Snyder has absolved himself of responsibility by not drawing any connections.

Once you realize that, I think the movie becomes a lot of fun, because it can be whatever you make of it. He gives you a very simple structure, and establishes the very vague “rules,” and then from there it’s all play. There is not even any commentary on it, except right at the start, when he lampshades the concept as being absurd. He’s basically saying right from the start, “F*ck it, just sit back and enjoy.”


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