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Eric W.H. Taft
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:27 am |
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See this post for details on what this is all about and this post for Round 1 results.
Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5
Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai
Scorsese's disturbing treatise on violence and obsession will features a twisted lead, a legendary director, a landmark performance, and chilling violence. Akira Kurosawa’s epic masterpiece influenced scores of directors to come and is considered one of the greatest foreign language films of all time, innovating and influencing even to this day.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:36 am |
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Jaws
But since that film was somehow overlooked, I'll go again for The (Eastern)Magnificent Seven.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:53 am |
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Seven samurai my #1 all time movie. Jaws does beat Taxi Driver tho.
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Rob Steinbrenner
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:02 pm |
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I never saw either. Most people never heard of Seven Samarai in this country, even if it is influential to film makers, so I'll go with Taxi Driver, since at the very least the performance is memorable.
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Eric W.H. Taft
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:21 pm |
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Rob Steinbrenner wrote: Most people never heard of Seven Samarai in this country
Well in that case let me remove it from the running.
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ted262
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:50 pm |
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Kikuchiyo would slice Travis Bickle in half and go back to picking his teeth.
End of story.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:55 pm |
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Eric W.H. Taft wrote: Rob Steinbrenner wrote: Most people never heard of Seven Samarai in this country Well in that case let me remove it from the running.
He's right though, outside of film buffs, not a lot of people have heard of it here. That doesn't make it any less of a film, considering how many movies are pretty much based on it. I've only heard of it because of its influence, and never have seen it.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:56 pm |
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I voted Taxi Driver because I've seen it. 
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Rob Steinbrenner
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:02 pm |
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Eric W.H. Taft wrote: Rob Steinbrenner wrote: Most people never heard of Seven Samarai in this country Well in that case let me remove it from the running.
Your asking me to judge great films. Part of that is their impact. For me, that's not just impact on critics, or on filmmakers, but the public. Most people never saw it here. Most people never heard of it. Most that have are probabky film majors or Star Wars fans. Since I've seen neither, that weighed on me heavily.
I never said you should remove it. I gave the reason, as you said when you started this we should do, for me not voting for it. I did so.
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Eric W.H. Taft
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:17 pm |
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Rob Steinbrenner wrote: Your asking me to judge great films. Part of that is their impact. Weren't you just arguing the other day that the sole thing we should base out decisions on is what we see on screen, and not outside factors, or was that someone else? Because a flm's impact is most certainly an outside factor. Rob Steinbrenner wrote: I never said you should remove it.
Of course you didn't. I was being snarky, because "Most people never heard of Seven Samarai in this country" is amazingly <UNWAN comment here> reasoning.
"Most people" have never seen Citizen Kane, either.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:24 pm |
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You could just say "Seven Samurai / Magnificent Seven". Everyone has seen the Magnificent Seven.
That would be a good porn name, but I bet it's been done.
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Eric W.H. Taft
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:32 pm |
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Mind you, Rob, I'm not knocking your opinion or saying you suck because you haven't seen the movie. Not at all.
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Rob Steinbrenner
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:36 pm |
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Eric W.H. Taft wrote: Rob Steinbrenner wrote: Your asking me to judge great films. Part of that is their impact. (1) Weren't you just arguing the other day that the sole thing we should base out decisions on is what we see on screen, and not outside factors, or was that someone else? Because a flm's impact is most certainly an outside factor. Rob Steinbrenner wrote: I never said you should remove it. Of course you didn't. I was being snarky, because (2) "Most people never heard of Seven Samarai in this country" is amazingly <UNWAN comment here> reasoning. (3) "Most people" have never seen Citizen Kane, either.
(1) I am a complex person.
(2) It is?
(3) I don't remember, but didn't I vote against Citizen Kane?
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Eric W.H. Taft
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:37 pm |
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Rob Steinbrenner wrote: (3) I don't remember, but didn't I vote against Citizen Kane?
If you did, it was probably just to annoy me. 
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Rob Steinbrenner
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:37 pm |
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Eric W.H. Taft wrote: Mind you, Rob, (1) I'm not knocking your opinion or saying (2) you suck because you haven't seen the movie. Not at all.
(1) yes you are as you know. Seems to be happening a lot lately
(2) I do suck for not having seen it. But there it is.
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Rob Steinbrenner
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:38 pm |
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Eric W.H. Taft wrote: Rob Steinbrenner wrote: (3) I don't remember, but didn't I vote against Citizen Kane? If you did, it was probably just to annoy me. 
Probably was 50% of it. you or others.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:13 pm |
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Kurosawa's Seven Samurai trumps DeNiro, hands down.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:56 pm |
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Rob Steinbrenner wrote: Eric W.H. Taft wrote: Mind you, Rob, (1) I'm not knocking your opinion or saying (2) you suck because you haven't seen the movie. Not at all. (1) yes you are as you know. Seems to be happening a lot lately (2) I do suck for not having seen it. But there it is.
No, he means those aren't the reasons he knocks your opinions and you suck! 
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Eric W.H. Taft
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:18 pm |
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Oh, and incidentally, Seven Samurai for me. Watched it again this weekend and loved it all over again. Black and white? Subtitles? Doesn't matter even to my son, who is always enthralled in the story when I have it on. Kurosawa was such a masterfully visual storyteller that you can ignore the subtitles and still get every nuance of the story. He paints a huge cast of characters with short, deft strokes, and lets this story build and build to its rousing climax with steady, deliberate, purposeful steps. When it comes to action, it's amazing the stuff he was doing in the mid 1950s, long before such techniques were common. Spielberg owes a lot to Kurosawa.
Taxi Driver is awesome, featuring one of the best DeNiro performances of an outstanding career, and some of Scorsese's most chilling direction. It's a grim, filthy portrait of 1970s New York's seedy underbelly.
But Seven Samurai is Seven Samurai, damnit.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:33 pm |
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At the moment, I chose Taxi Driver.
But it's an incredibly close one.
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Eric W.H. Taft
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:16 pm |
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One thing I liked about The Magnificent Seven is that when director John Sturges made the remake of Seven Samurai, he didn't look at how much he could throw away, he looked at how much he could keep.
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Post subject: Film vs. Film Challenge: Round 2, Match 5: Taxi Driver vs. Seven Samurai Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:19 pm |
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