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 Post subject: "The ideal cut-off points for Marvel [or DC] series that give you a good, satisfying conclusion."
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:34 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:37 am 
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The destruction of Trigon in the New Teen Titans Baxter series -- Pérez's last as regular artist -- is a fine conclusion to that story of those characters.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:38 am 
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Agreed. One of the greatest runs ever.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:40 am 
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Spectre #60 by Ostrander & Mandrake concluded a great run and brought closure to the saga of Jim Corrigan. Everything that has been done with the character since has paled in comparison.


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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
Agreed. One of the greatest runs ever.

:ohyes: And I'm saying from New Teen Titans 1 (the newsstand book) to that story -- the whole Wolfman/Pérez run. Probably my favorite super hero series. It certainly was at the time, and I recently re-read it and found I still enjoyed it.


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Justice League of America #200 - Probably my single favorite comic and no JLA tale since has even remotely lived up to it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:47 am 
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For me --

Post-Crisis Superman - Man of Steel #1 through the Return of Superman arc (Superman #82)

Amazing Spider-Man - Amazing Fantasy #15 through the Death of Gwen Stacy (ASM #122)

Fantastic Four - #1 through #102

Mighty Thor - Journey into Mystery #83 through the end of Simonson's run (Mighty Thor #382) - Though I do love the DeFalco run, so I could even say #459... but I won't.

Green Lantern - I think you could end it with Rebirth and be good.

The Flash - I think the end of the Return of Barry Allen is a good place to end.


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Superman #423 and Action Comics #583, with Alan Moore's "Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow," a fond goodbye to the pre-Crisis Superman.

And whatever issues of the Spider-Man titles that came out just prior to the Clone Saga, the beginning of a long downhill slide for the Web-Slinger. :(

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I think Spider-man could have ended with issue #33, but there were
certainly some nice issues after that. I guess I'd rather be able to go
through a title and "cherry-pick" what to keep, and what to ignore.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:03 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:09 am 
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I suppose though that someone has made nice sequels to crappy originals,
or made good use of bad characters or story elements later on. Might have
to include some crap to understand later issues.

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Ditko went on to issue #38 of Amazing, but I've always thought this issue was a fitting exclamation point on his run. It's written almost like it's intended that way, as the character growth if Peter is complete -- he's become 100% hero, dedicated to coming through for everyone who is depending on him, self-doubt shrinking to a memory.

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It was a B-list series, I know, but: Excalibur should have ended with Alan Davis's last issue. Perfect ending.


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33 was the end of a great three-issue run.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:06 pm 
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Ross wrote:
Justice League of America #200 - Probably my single favorite comic and no JLA tale since has even remotely lived up to it.

Did not know that; I just read it over the summer (before giving it away) and it really was packed!Perez wrap-around cover, too.

I believe Doot once suggested X-MEN #175 as a nice wrap-up to that series, especially from Scott's p.o.v., so I'll throw that out there, from his colossal Claremont review series.

But if he didn't recommend Fall of the Mutants from X-MEN #227---and I think he did offer that as a conclusion to the tightly-plotted part of the saga where Claremont knew where to go next and still made the decisions---that would be my own personal choice!

X-MEN #227
ALPHA FLIGHT #27.
AVENGERS #277


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AMAZING SPIDER-MAN Ann. 21: Peter and M J live happily ever after.
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JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL #60, at the end of "Breakdowns"

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:31 pm 
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Ross wrote:
Spectre #60 by Ostrander & Mandrake concluded a great run and brought closure to the saga of Jim Corrigan. Everything that has been done with the character since has paled in comparison.


I agree wholeheartedly. It's one of those rare cases where they should have just left the character alone after that.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:26 pm 
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It was a B-list series, I know, but: Excalibur should have ended with Alan Davis's last issue. Perfect ending.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:30 pm 
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I liked the Teen Titans suggestion too.

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The end of Layton/Michelinie's run on Iron Man, with that terrific cover, is a really good ending. The next arc is Byrne and isn't as good.


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Len Wein's "The Return of Anakronus" in JLA #114 was a nice ending to his run on the series.

It had the appearance of being a nod to the Fox/Sekowsky era, with a "flashback" story involving the JLA all turning into cavemen (a very Silver Age DC idea) and the return of Snapper Carr. Denny O'Neal's treatment of Carr was pretty much the final nail in the coffin for the Silver Age JLA. Wein brought Snapper Carr back to us as a less damaged character and ended his phenomenal writing run on the series with a sweet story of redemption and friendship.

It's a shame that Wein's JLA run isn't available in reprinted form. The Archives are still a few volumes away from that point. Hopefully the Showcases will continue through his stories. You CAN get his JLA/JSA team-up issues and the Phantom stranger story from JLA in the current Phantom Stranger Showcases and the Crisis on Multiple Earths TPB's.


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