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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:17 am 
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I already have so many different pressings of this album on CD, but the description of how faithfully they've tried to reproduce the original makes me want to take a chance on this version too. One promising sign is the Columbia/EMI logo in the upper lefthand corner of the cover:

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This limited re-release of a classic album by the band that fostered the careers of Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, and Jimmy Page features a faithful recreation of the original LP sleeve, original packaging, and original liner notes in the original Stereo format.

Also includes an alternative Mono Version of the album plus seven bonus tracks - for a total of thirty-one tracks in all! Roger the Engineer was The Yardbird's first real studio album, cut in 1966, yet was never initially released in the U.S. in its original form. In this album the band explores broad palettes of style, ranging from traditional blues, neo-medieval turns, strange psychedelia, and outright pioneering fretwork.

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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003EUEW0W/?tag=imwan-20

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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:33 am 
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How come that has a Columbia/EMI logo on it? Some sort of joint venture?

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Actually, EMI wouldn't care about the unauthorised use of that Columbia name or logo. EMI stopped using the "Columbia" label name in the Uk & Europe in the early 1970's, and later sold the UK/Europe rights to the "Columbia" name to Sony, shortly after Sony bought CBS records.
It's a long story, but before the mid-1950's CBS didn't have their own affiliates in the Uk & Europe, so EMI/Columbia was set up to distribute Columbia recordings in those territories. Later, CBS set up their own label in those territories, but had to call the label "CBS", since EMI had already registered the name "Columbia" in those countries. A similar agreement between RCA & EMI resulted in EMI owning the dog & gramophone logo in the UK & Europe, even after RCA broke off their deal with EMI and set up RCA Victor affiliates in those countries. EMI's label with the dog & gramophone logo was called "His Masters Voice".


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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:59 am 
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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:10 am 
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On the Japanese mini LP version, the retro effect is slightly messed up by it having a Victor logo.

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I assume that mimics the original Japanese LP, but I would have preferred them using the original UK LP as a guideline. (The UK LP being on Columbia/EMI, of course.)

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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:13 pm 
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I was thinking of buying the mini box set with 2 discs one of mono and one stereo.
Hmmm... now what?


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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
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An "alternative mono version?" Does that mean it's not the original mono mix but another one?


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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:53 pm 
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Does this album hold the record for most CD reissues? I think it tops "Odessey and Oracle" and "Ogden's Nut Gone Flake."

I just got the "newest" one from Airline Records last year.

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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:05 pm 
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Matt Wilson wrote:
An "alternative mono version?" Does that mean it's not the original mono mix but another one?

From the way the description is worded, I'm guessing that they meant the mono version as an alternative to the stereo one, not an alternative to the original mono mix.

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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:52 pm 
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Bump: still haven't found an exact tracklisting, but the label has expanded their description of the release a little more — updated in the first post — and I'm guessing from the stated total of 31 tracks that it includes all of the contemporaneously released tracks from the Roger era, i.e. both sides of the "Happenings Ten Years Time Ago" single plus the Keith Relf solo recordings.

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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:27 pm 
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Linda wrote:
Bump: still haven't found an exact tracklisting, but the label has expanded their description of the release a little more — updated in the first post — and I'm guessing from the stated total of 31 tracks that it includes all of the contemporaneously released tracks from the Roger era, i.e. both sides of the "Happenings Ten Years Time Ago" single plus the Keith Relf solo recordings.
I saw copies of this today at the indie store I regularly go to. Pretty sure it's the same usual 31 tracks you have seen before.....stereo album -> Happenings/Psycho Dasies single -> mono album -> 5 Reif single tracks..

Also, it didn't have the Columbia/EMI logo in the upper left corner.

I bought the Airline Records version from last year......I would think this new one isn't really different.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:50 pm 
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Charles wrote:
Linda wrote:
Bump: still haven't found an exact tracklisting, but the label has expanded their description of the release a little more — updated in the first post — and I'm guessing from the stated total of 31 tracks that it includes all of the contemporaneously released tracks from the Roger era, i.e. both sides of the "Happenings Ten Years Time Ago" single plus the Keith Relf solo recordings.

I saw copies of this today at the indie store I regularly go to. Pretty sure it's the same usual 31 tracks you have seen before.....stereo album -> Happenings/Psycho Dasies single -> mono album -> 5 Reif single tracks..

Also, it didn't have the Columbia/EMI logo in the upper left corner.

I bought the Airline Records version from last year......I would think this new one isn't really different.

Charles, did the copies you saw have that green tint like the cover image does in the first post?

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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:48 pm 
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I don't remember.....only took note of the upper left corner and record label.

I can check again tomorrow.....pass by the store everyday on the way home from work.

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 Post subject: [2010-06-01] The Yardbirds "Roger The Engineer" remaster of 1966 album (The Great American Music Company)
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I checked again today......
The cover and tracklist match the Airline Records version.

Off-whiteish with "Yardbirds" above the drawing.
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The label was Great American Music Company.

I can only guess it's the same mastering. Already having Airline, I'm not getting this one.

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