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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:27 am |
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Just read he lost his legs in the Iraq War in the latest Amazing 
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:36 am |
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That is correct.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:38 am |
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That's horrible.
He still hadn't gotten over what happened in 'Nam...and now...now this.....
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:35 am |
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:48 am |
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What did you expect? The Comedian is dead.
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The new cartoon is so much better than this stuff. EveryWAN has all their limbs (except Doc Connors, of course) and Gwen is still alive.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:12 am |
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The Spectacular Cartoon is one of the best hero cartoon ever. I will be extremely sad if they kill gwen in the toon.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:41 am |
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Good. That'll teach him to pick on nerds.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:42 am |
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:45 am |
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:01 pm |
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:20 pm |
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It was seriously decent.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:29 pm |
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Jeff wrote: No reason for that. Except perhaps (just perhaps) to make political hay out of the war.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:35 pm |
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The story behind the story was detailed on the letters page. My short-term memory is fuzzy (didn't read it that closely), but a U.S. medic serving in Afghanistan visited the Marvel offices (a fan of comics). He experienced an attack similar to the one that engulfs Flash. He was either injured himself or his comrades were (I recall mention of a couple of brave soldiers being killed). The book was done to honour him and other soldiers who shoulder the burden for the rest of us.
Sure, political.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:37 pm |
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Darin wrote: Jeff wrote: No reason for that. Except perhaps (just perhaps) to make political hay out of the war. I'm guessing you haven't read the issue. It's far from an anti-war story. A general meets with Flash at a military hospital to talk about giving him a Medal of Honor. Turns out Flash was riding in a vehicle that was hit by an IED, then when his unit got out of the truck and was clearing the buildings, one of his platoon mates hit a trip wire and was seriously injured. Flash tries to get help and is ambushed, getting shot several times in the legs. He takes an ephedrine shot off of a fallen bad guy and gives it to himself so that he can dull the pain long enough to go back and save his buddy. If he'd gone and just gotten help for himself right away, the doctors could have possibly saved his legs. Instead, he selflessly went back and saved the guy, losing his legs in the process. The story ends with Flash telling the general that he doesn't regret the choice he made at all
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:41 pm |
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Jeff wrote: No reason for that.  The reason for that.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:57 pm |
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Rawburn wrote: The story behind the story was detailed on the letters page. My short-term memory is fuzzy (didn't read it that closely), but a U.S. medic serving in Afghanistan visited the Marvel offices (a fan of comics). He experienced an attack similar to the one that engulfs Flash. He was either injured himself or his comrades were (I recall mention of a couple of brave soldiers being killed). The book was done to honour him and other soldiers who shoulder the burden for the rest of us.
Sure, political. Then you use a character you make for the part. You don't cripple regular cast members for life. There's no easy "undo" button on something when you make it realistic like that (see Batgirl). To fix Flash now and return to status quo, you'd offend a lot of people. I'm glad you thought it was a good story, Monk, but I don't agree. A bit of the JB to say this I know.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:03 pm |
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Jeff wrote: Rawburn wrote: The story behind the story was detailed on the letters page. My short-term memory is fuzzy (didn't read it that closely), but a U.S. medic serving in Afghanistan visited the Marvel offices (a fan of comics). He experienced an attack similar to the one that engulfs Flash. He was either injured himself or his comrades were (I recall mention of a couple of brave soldiers being killed). The book was done to honour him and other soldiers who shoulder the burden for the rest of us.
Sure, political. Then you use a character you make for the part. You don't cripple regular cast members for life. There's no easy "undo" button on something when you make it realistic like that (see Batgirl). To fix Flash now and return to status quo, you'd offend a lot of people. I'm glad you thought it was a good story, Monk, but I don't agree. A bit of the JB to say this I know. The problem with simply making a character for the part is that you have to spend a chunk of time making everyone care about the character. This isn't a story like "The Kid Who Collected Spider-Man", where Spidey's actually used in the story. Here, Spidey's heroism is what inspires Flash. And part of the story is that it could happen to anyone at anytime if they're serving in a war zone, which fits Flash's character given his military background. If they'd killed Flash, I'd be a bit more upset, but honestly, there's plenty of story that can be gotten out of the fact that he IS still alive and a functioning member of the cast regardless of his injury. Instead of walking down the street with Peter, he'll be in a wheelchair. Instead of flirting with Peter's girl (when he has one) from a standing position, he'll be sitting down. Not to say it has to be ignored all the time, but it doesn't have to be an After School Special every time he shows up, either.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:05 pm |
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When my brother was in Iraq he was in a vehicle that struck an IED once. Everybody got out safely, but then one of them hit an antipersonnel device that had been put there specifically to catch them as they evacuated their vehicle. My brother was not seriously injured. Even with nobody killed it must have been horrifying. And they weren't even strictly combat soldiers. Experiences like this are VERY common for Iraq war veterans.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:09 pm |
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Monk wrote: Jeff wrote: Rawburn wrote: The story behind the story was detailed on the letters page. My short-term memory is fuzzy (didn't read it that closely), but a U.S. medic serving in Afghanistan visited the Marvel offices (a fan of comics). He experienced an attack similar to the one that engulfs Flash. He was either injured himself or his comrades were (I recall mention of a couple of brave soldiers being killed). The book was done to honour him and other soldiers who shoulder the burden for the rest of us.
Sure, political. Then you use a character you make for the part. You don't cripple regular cast members for life. There's no easy "undo" button on something when you make it realistic like that (see Batgirl). To fix Flash now and return to status quo, you'd offend a lot of people. I'm glad you thought it was a good story, Monk, but I don't agree. A bit of the JB to say this I know. The problem with simply making a character for the part is that you have to spend a chunk of time making everyone care about the character. This isn't a story like "The Kid Who Collected Spider-Man", where Spidey's actually used in the story. Here, Spidey's heroism is what inspires Flash. And part of the story is that it could happen to anyone at anytime if they're serving in a war zone, which fits Flash's character given his military background. Introduce him over time. Give Flash some spotlight, a few panels for several issues, maybe a full page here and there, to develop him and give him an army buddy to care about. It happens to that guy, and we suffer through it via Flash's eyes. Easy and you don't damage your core cast.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:10 pm |
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Jeff wrote: Monk wrote: Jeff wrote: Rawburn wrote: The story behind the story was detailed on the letters page. My short-term memory is fuzzy (didn't read it that closely), but a U.S. medic serving in Afghanistan visited the Marvel offices (a fan of comics). He experienced an attack similar to the one that engulfs Flash. He was either injured himself or his comrades were (I recall mention of a couple of brave soldiers being killed). The book was done to honour him and other soldiers who shoulder the burden for the rest of us.
Sure, political. Then you use a character you make for the part. You don't cripple regular cast members for life. There's no easy "undo" button on something when you make it realistic like that (see Batgirl). To fix Flash now and return to status quo, you'd offend a lot of people. I'm glad you thought it was a good story, Monk, but I don't agree. A bit of the JB to say this I know. The problem with simply making a character for the part is that you have to spend a chunk of time making everyone care about the character. This isn't a story like "The Kid Who Collected Spider-Man", where Spidey's actually used in the story. Here, Spidey's heroism is what inspires Flash. And part of the story is that it could happen to anyone at anytime if they're serving in a war zone, which fits Flash's character given his military background. Introduce him over time. Give Flash some spotlight, a few panels for several issues, maybe a full page here and there, to develop him and give him an army buddy to care about. It happens to that guy, and we suffer through it via Flash's eyes. Easy and you don't damage your core cast. How is the supporting cast damaged by Flash being in a wheelchair? He's not Barbara Gordon, whose superhero career and life were drastically altered by her injury, and he's not dead, so he still has the same history and relationship with Peter as he did before.
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:13 pm |
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It sounds pretty stupid idea.
But i haven't read it, and won't be, so who knows?
But on its face it seems stupid.
BTW, did Flash go back into the army? because i thought BND still meant "every story happened, they just weren't married" and Flash has been out of the army for quite some time. So even if you update his army experiences to a newer war, he wasn't crippled.
So he joined back up? Or what?
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Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:18 pm |
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I agree with Monk on this one. Flash is still Flash, and they could do things with the character that could be inspirational to people that live in wheelchairs kinda like Daredevil has been for blind people.
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