“IMWAN for all seasons.”



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 66 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  ( Next )
Author Message
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:27 am 
User avatar

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 49778
Just read he

Spoiler: show
lost his legs in the Iraq War in the latest Amazing
:shock:

_________________
I apologize for the above post.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:36 am 
User avatar

Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Posts: 13716
Location: ToWANto
Bannings: Too ignored to be banned.
That is correct.

_________________
Bigmouth strikes again!


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:38 am 
User avatar
...

Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 59407
That's horrible.

He still hadn't gotten over what happened in 'Nam...and now...now this.....

_________________
"They'll bite your finger off given a chance" - Junkie Luv (regarding Zebras)


Top
  Profile  
 

IMWAN Mod
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:35 am 
User avatar
The Modfather; Wizard of WAN

Joined: 05 Oct 2006
Posts: 56213
Location: Under the Iron Bridge
Bannings: freely handed out
No reason for that.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:48 am 
User avatar
What did you expect? The Comedian is dead.

Joined: 25 Dec 2006
Posts: 5048
Location: Outside in the cold distance ...
The new cartoon is so much better than this stuff.
EveryWAN has all their limbs (except Doc Connors, of course) and Gwen is still alive.

_________________
:watchmen:


Top
  Profile E-mail  
 

IMWAN Mod
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:12 am 
User avatar
I am not Taupe

Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 22613
Location: Chiss
The Spectacular Cartoon is one of the best hero cartoon ever. I will be extremely sad if they kill gwen in the toon.

_________________
Image--


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:41 am 
User avatar
Ancient Alien Theorist

Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Posts: 105341
Location: The Fourth World
Bannings: 2001
Good. That'll teach him to pick on nerds.


Top
  Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:42 am 
User avatar
King of Goth

Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 29332
Location: The Sprawl
Bannings: I'm judging you.
He had it coming.

_________________
Go take a look at IANTHECOMICARTIST.COM - you know you want to!


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:45 am 
User avatar
King of Goth

Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 29332
Location: The Sprawl
Bannings: I'm judging you.
Wassa matter, Flash? Dontcha wanna call me Puny Parker some more? C'mon, I'll race you around the track, ya little bitch!

_________________
Go take a look at IANTHECOMICARTIST.COM - you know you want to!


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:01 pm 
User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 35552
Location: Between the thumb and the wrist.
In all seriousness, it was a really good issue.

_________________
Daily art blog Very Short Drawings
Pay a visit to The Writers' Block, where writers, uh...write stuff!
Read my comic strip A Boy Called Monk
Read my comic book Town of Shadows


Top
  Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:20 pm 
User avatar

Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Posts: 13716
Location: ToWANto
Bannings: Too ignored to be banned.
It was seriously decent.

_________________
Bigmouth strikes again!


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:29 pm 
User avatar

Joined: 14 Aug 2004
Posts: 17145
Location: La Crosse, WI
Bannings: Not as often these days.
Jeff wrote:
No reason for that.


Except perhaps (just perhaps) to make political hay out of the war.

_________________
Darin Wagner


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:35 pm 
User avatar

Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Posts: 13716
Location: ToWANto
Bannings: Too ignored to be banned.
The story behind the story was detailed on the letters page. My short-term memory is fuzzy (didn't read it that closely), but a U.S. medic serving in Afghanistan visited the Marvel offices (a fan of comics). He experienced an attack similar to the one that engulfs Flash. He was either injured himself or his comrades were (I recall mention of a couple of brave soldiers being killed). The book was done to honour him and other soldiers who shoulder the burden for the rest of us.

Sure, political.

_________________
Bigmouth strikes again!


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:37 pm 
User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 35552
Location: Between the thumb and the wrist.
Darin wrote:
Jeff wrote:
No reason for that.


Except perhaps (just perhaps) to make political hay out of the war.


I'm guessing you haven't read the issue. It's far from an anti-war story.

Spoiler: show
A general meets with Flash at a military hospital to talk about giving him a Medal of Honor. Turns out Flash was riding in a vehicle that was hit by an IED, then when his unit got out of the truck and was clearing the buildings, one of his platoon mates hit a trip wire and was seriously injured. Flash tries to get help and is ambushed, getting shot several times in the legs. He takes an ephedrine shot off of a fallen bad guy and gives it to himself so that he can dull the pain long enough to go back and save his buddy. If he'd gone and just gotten help for himself right away, the doctors could have possibly saved his legs. Instead, he selflessly went back and saved the guy, losing his legs in the process. The story ends with Flash telling the general that he doesn't regret the choice he made at all

_________________
Daily art blog Very Short Drawings
Pay a visit to The Writers' Block, where writers, uh...write stuff!
Read my comic strip A Boy Called Monk
Read my comic book Town of Shadows


Top
  Profile E-mail  
 

IMWAN Admin
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:41 pm 
User avatar
Helpful Librarian

Joined: Day WAN
Posts: 197060
Location: IMWAN Towers
Bannings: If you're not nice
Jeff wrote:
No reason for that.

Image

The reason for that.

_________________
Image


Top
  Profile  
 

IMWAN Mod
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:57 pm 
User avatar
The Modfather; Wizard of WAN

Joined: 05 Oct 2006
Posts: 56213
Location: Under the Iron Bridge
Bannings: freely handed out
Rawburn wrote:
The story behind the story was detailed on the letters page. My short-term memory is fuzzy (didn't read it that closely), but a U.S. medic serving in Afghanistan visited the Marvel offices (a fan of comics). He experienced an attack similar to the one that engulfs Flash. He was either injured himself or his comrades were (I recall mention of a couple of brave soldiers being killed). The book was done to honour him and other soldiers who shoulder the burden for the rest of us.

Sure, political.

Then you use a character you make for the part. You don't cripple regular cast members for life. There's no easy "undo" button on something when you make it realistic like that (see Batgirl). To fix Flash now and return to status quo, you'd offend a lot of people. I'm glad you thought it was a good story, Monk, but I don't agree. A bit of the JB to say this I know.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:03 pm 
User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 35552
Location: Between the thumb and the wrist.
Jeff wrote:
Rawburn wrote:
The story behind the story was detailed on the letters page. My short-term memory is fuzzy (didn't read it that closely), but a U.S. medic serving in Afghanistan visited the Marvel offices (a fan of comics). He experienced an attack similar to the one that engulfs Flash. He was either injured himself or his comrades were (I recall mention of a couple of brave soldiers being killed). The book was done to honour him and other soldiers who shoulder the burden for the rest of us.

Sure, political.

Then you use a character you make for the part. You don't cripple regular cast members for life. There's no easy "undo" button on something when you make it realistic like that (see Batgirl). To fix Flash now and return to status quo, you'd offend a lot of people. I'm glad you thought it was a good story, Monk, but I don't agree. A bit of the JB to say this I know.


The problem with simply making a character for the part is that you have to spend a chunk of time making everyone care about the character. This isn't a story like "The Kid Who Collected Spider-Man", where Spidey's actually used in the story. Here, Spidey's heroism is what inspires Flash. And part of the story is that it could happen to anyone at anytime if they're serving in a war zone, which fits Flash's character given his military background.

If they'd killed Flash, I'd be a bit more upset, but honestly, there's plenty of story that can be gotten out of the fact that he IS still alive and a functioning member of the cast regardless of his injury. Instead of walking down the street with Peter, he'll be in a wheelchair. Instead of flirting with Peter's girl (when he has one) from a standing position, he'll be sitting down. Not to say it has to be ignored all the time, but it doesn't have to be an After School Special every time he shows up, either.

_________________
Daily art blog Very Short Drawings
Pay a visit to The Writers' Block, where writers, uh...write stuff!
Read my comic strip A Boy Called Monk
Read my comic book Town of Shadows


Top
  Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:05 pm 
User avatar
Biker Librarian

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 25155
Location: On the highway, looking for adventure
When my brother was in Iraq he was in a vehicle that struck an IED once. Everybody got out safely, but then one of them hit an antipersonnel device that had been put there specifically to catch them as they evacuated their vehicle. My brother was not seriously injured. Even with nobody killed it must have been horrifying. And they weren't even strictly combat soldiers. Experiences like this are VERY common for Iraq war veterans.

_________________
The kingdom of heaven is like a merchant seeking fine pearls who, when he found an especially costly one, sold everything he had to buy it.


Top
  Profile  
 

IMWAN Mod
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:09 pm 
User avatar
The Modfather; Wizard of WAN

Joined: 05 Oct 2006
Posts: 56213
Location: Under the Iron Bridge
Bannings: freely handed out
Monk wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Rawburn wrote:
The story behind the story was detailed on the letters page. My short-term memory is fuzzy (didn't read it that closely), but a U.S. medic serving in Afghanistan visited the Marvel offices (a fan of comics). He experienced an attack similar to the one that engulfs Flash. He was either injured himself or his comrades were (I recall mention of a couple of brave soldiers being killed). The book was done to honour him and other soldiers who shoulder the burden for the rest of us.

Sure, political.

Then you use a character you make for the part. You don't cripple regular cast members for life. There's no easy "undo" button on something when you make it realistic like that (see Batgirl). To fix Flash now and return to status quo, you'd offend a lot of people. I'm glad you thought it was a good story, Monk, but I don't agree. A bit of the JB to say this I know.


The problem with simply making a character for the part is that you have to spend a chunk of time making everyone care about the character. This isn't a story like "The Kid Who Collected Spider-Man", where Spidey's actually used in the story. Here, Spidey's heroism is what inspires Flash. And part of the story is that it could happen to anyone at anytime if they're serving in a war zone, which fits Flash's character given his military background.

Introduce him over time. Give Flash some spotlight, a few panels for several issues, maybe a full page here and there, to develop him and give him an army buddy to care about. It happens to that guy, and we suffer through it via Flash's eyes. Easy and you don't damage your core cast.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:10 pm 
User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 35552
Location: Between the thumb and the wrist.
Jeff wrote:
Monk wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Rawburn wrote:
The story behind the story was detailed on the letters page. My short-term memory is fuzzy (didn't read it that closely), but a U.S. medic serving in Afghanistan visited the Marvel offices (a fan of comics). He experienced an attack similar to the one that engulfs Flash. He was either injured himself or his comrades were (I recall mention of a couple of brave soldiers being killed). The book was done to honour him and other soldiers who shoulder the burden for the rest of us.

Sure, political.

Then you use a character you make for the part. You don't cripple regular cast members for life. There's no easy "undo" button on something when you make it realistic like that (see Batgirl). To fix Flash now and return to status quo, you'd offend a lot of people. I'm glad you thought it was a good story, Monk, but I don't agree. A bit of the JB to say this I know.


The problem with simply making a character for the part is that you have to spend a chunk of time making everyone care about the character. This isn't a story like "The Kid Who Collected Spider-Man", where Spidey's actually used in the story. Here, Spidey's heroism is what inspires Flash. And part of the story is that it could happen to anyone at anytime if they're serving in a war zone, which fits Flash's character given his military background.

Introduce him over time. Give Flash some spotlight, a few panels for several issues, maybe a full page here and there, to develop him and give him an army buddy to care about. It happens to that guy, and we suffer through it via Flash's eyes. Easy and you don't damage your core cast.


How is the supporting cast damaged by Flash being in a wheelchair? He's not Barbara Gordon, whose superhero career and life were drastically altered by her injury, and he's not dead, so he still has the same history and relationship with Peter as he did before.

_________________
Daily art blog Very Short Drawings
Pay a visit to The Writers' Block, where writers, uh...write stuff!
Read my comic strip A Boy Called Monk
Read my comic book Town of Shadows


Top
  Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:13 pm 
User avatar

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 49778
It sounds pretty stupid idea.

But i haven't read it, and won't be, so who knows?

But on its face it seems stupid.

BTW, did Flash go back into the army? because i thought BND still meant "every story happened, they just weren't married" and Flash has been out of the army for quite some time. So even if you update his army experiences to a newer war, he wasn't crippled.

So he joined back up? Or what?

_________________
I apologize for the above post.


Top
  Profile  
 
 Post subject: Whoa- Flash Thompson? (spoilers)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:18 pm 
User avatar
Behold

Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Posts: 9531
Location: Arizona
I agree with Monk on this one. Flash is still Flash, and they could do things with the character that could be inspirational to people that live in wheelchairs kinda like Daredevil has been for blind people.


Top
  Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Go to page 1, 2, 3  ( Next )
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 66 posts ]   



Who is WANline

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powdered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited

IMWAN is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide
a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com, amazon.ca and amazon.co.uk.