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 Post subject: [2023-11-10] The Beatles "Red" and "Blue" 2CD compilations remixed and expanded (Apple)
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Remixed and Expanded: ‘Red’ has 12 additional tracks, including for the first time some of George Harrison’s earliest songs and some classic Beatles versions of R&B and rock ‘n’ roll hits that were so influential on the band.

The 2CD collection now contains 38 tracks. With a booklet containing new sleeve notes by journalist and author John Harris, the new 1962 – 1966 collection is a joyous celebration of The Beatles’ timeless musical legacy.

Tracklist
[CD1]
1. Love Me Do
2. Please Please Me
3. I Saw Her Standing There
4. Twist And Shout
5. From Me To You
6. She Loves You
7. I Want To Hold Your Hand
8. This Boy
9. All My Loving
10. Roll Over Beethoven
11. You Really Got A Hold On Me
12. Can’t Buy Me Love
13. You Can’t Do That
14. A Hard Day’s Night
15. And I Love Her
16. Eight Days A Week
17. I Feel Fine
18. Ticket To Ride
19. Yesterday

[CD2]
1. Help!
2. You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away
3. We Can Work It Out
4. Day Tripper
5. Drive My Car
6. Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
7. Nowhere Man
8. Michelle
9. In My Life
10. If I Needed Someone
11. Girl
12. Paperback Writer
13. Eleanor Rigby
14. Yellow Submarine
15. Taxman
16. Got To Get You Into My Life
17. I’m Only Sleeping
18. Here, There And Everywhere
19. Tomorrow Never Knows

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Remixed and Expanded: ‘Blue’ has 9 additional tracks added chronologically, including “Blackbird”, “Glass Onion” and the last new Beatles song, “Now And Then”.

The 2CD collection now features 37 tracks in total. With a booklet containing new sleeve notes by journalist and author John Harris, the new 1967 – 1970 collection is a joyous celebration of The Beatles’ timeless musical legacy.

Tracklist
[CD1]
1. Strawberry Fields Forever
2. Penny Lane
3. Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band
4. With A Little Help From My Friends
5. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
6. Within You Without You
7. A Day In The Life
8. All You Need Is Love
9. I Am The Walrus
10. Hello, Goodbye
11. The Fool On The Hill
12. Magical Mystery Tour
13. Lady Madonna
14. Hey Jude
15. Revolution

[CD2]
1. Back In The U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
4. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
5. Glass Onion
6. Blackbird
7. Hey Bulldog
8. Get Back
9. Don’t Let Me Down
10. The Ballad Of John And Yoko
11. Old Brown Shoe
12. Here Comes The Sun
13. Come Together
14. Something
15. Octopus’s Garden
16. Oh! Darling
17. I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
18. Let It Be
19. Across The Universe
20. I Me Mine
21. The Long And Winding Road
22. Now And Then

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 Post subject: [2023-11-10] The Beatles "Red" and "Blue" 2CD compilations remixed and expanded (Apple)
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The release date and details are very tentative information, awaiting a bunch of people on Team Beatles to sign off on everything. Will the final result be close to this? We shall see.

Both collections are being remixed by Giles Martin.

There will be improved stereo mixes on the Red album using AI to separate the instruments in the original mono mixes.

"Now And Then" (the final post-mortem Beatles track) uses George's guitar parts and harmonies from the aborted Anthology sessions, new drumming from Ringo, new vocals from Paul (with AI applied to make him sound younger), and newly added strings.

"Free As A Bird", "Real Love" and "Now And Then" will be extra tracks on the Blue album.

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 Post subject: [2023-11-10] The Beatles "Red" and "Blue" 2CD compilations remixed and expanded (Apple)
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This is interesting. I understand more info to come, but any feel if the 'expanded' will be only the "Free As A Bird", "Real Love" and "Now And Then" tracks, or additional tracks from the respective periods?


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NoURider wrote:
This is interesting. I understand more info to come, but any feel if the 'expanded' will be only the "Free As A Bird", "Real Love" and "Now And Then" tracks, or additional tracks from the respective periods?

if that's it, only one unreleased song.

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Renny wrote:
NoURider wrote:
This is interesting. I understand more info to come, but any feel if the 'expanded' will be only the "Free As A Bird", "Real Love" and "Now And Then" tracks, or additional tracks from the respective periods?

if that's it, only one unreleased song.

I wouldn't expect any more unreleased than that. I think the new mixes are the main selling point.

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 Post subject: [2023-11-10] The Beatles "Red" and "Blue" 2CD compilations remixed and expanded (Apple)
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It is amazing, how a group who recorded for less than a decade could release TWO DOUBLE ALBUMS and still have many (arguably) classic songs omitted, so (not that I personally particularly want to dip yet again) there is definitely room for expanded versions.

Going from memory, some songs those collections omit include 'Twist and Shout', 'I Saw Her Standing There', 'Things We Said Today', 'If I Fell', 'I'm a Loser', 'Rain', 'Here There and Everywhere', 'For No One', 'The Inner Light', 'Blackbird', Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End', 'Two of Us'.

If they are going to include the three completed Lennon songs, then the Love version (the original is on there) of 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps' could also be worth consideration.


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Eyed bee inn for the DES stereo versions of all the early mono tracks !!

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(alas no interest in the 3 reunion tracks)
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if i recall correctly there is a ton of time left on each disc of the red album, in fact i think everything on both discs fits on 1 CD.

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Renny wrote:
if i recall correctly there is a ton of time left on each disc of the re album, in fact i think everything on both discs fits on 1 CD.

That's true.

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Jason Michael wrote:
Renny wrote:
if i recall correctly there is a ton of time left on each disc of the re album, in fact i think everything on both discs fits on 1 CD.

That's true.

lots and lots and lots of room for bonus materiel..............

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Renny wrote:
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Renny wrote:
if i recall correctly there is a ton of time left on each disc of the re album, in fact i think everything on both discs fits on 1 CD.

That's true.

lots and lots and lots of room for bonus materiel..............


Do you like the Beatles, Renny?

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Jason Michael wrote:
Renny wrote:
Jason Michael wrote:
Renny wrote:
if i recall correctly there is a ton of time left on each disc of the re album, in fact i think everything on both discs fits on 1 CD.

That's true.

lots and lots and lots of room for bonus materiel..............


Do you like the Beatles, Renny?


very much so, but i never bought either the red or the blue album, even back in the day on vinyl. repetition just isn't my thing.

although i do have the 2 american box sets, gifts that i kept.

don't have "1" either.

but i did buy all 3 anthology sets and the BBC thing.

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repetition just isn't my thing.

You should make this your next signature.

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Jason Michael wrote:
Renny wrote:
NoURider wrote:
This is interesting. I understand more info to come, but any feel if the 'expanded' will be only the "Free As A Bird", "Real Love" and "Now And Then" tracks, or additional tracks from the respective periods?

if that's it, only one unreleased song.

I wouldn't expect any more unreleased than that. I think the new mixes are the main selling point.


I was vague in my post - when I mentioned 'additional tracks from the respective periods' I was meaning contemporaneously released songs, as Andrew mentioned (and as others pointed out how much available space is on the discs).
But on the flip, these albums (on 8-track) were my intro to Beatles (and subsequent obsession with Beatles and music collecting) that there is a certain purity to the as-is releases. I personally would not want any 'vault' material here.


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Renny wrote:
i repeat

repetition just isn't my thing.


number nine, number nine, number nine.... :lol:


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number nine, number nine, number nine.... :lol:


#9, Brandon Nimmo... :yay:

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...new vocals from Paul (with AI applied to make him sound younger)

See, using AI to de-mix stuff, I'm good with. But this? I dunno. This feels like cheating to me. (Although, those Rolling Stone remixes where Jagger adds new lead vocals to old, unreleased tracks maybe could've benefited from this.)

And to Renny...I agree about your duping comment, but you'd still need at least the Blue comp for the clean, unsegued open to "A Day In The Life". :wink:

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...new vocals from Paul (with AI applied to make him sound younger)

See, using AI to de-mix stuff, I'm good with. But this? I dunno. This feels like cheating to me. (Although, those Rolling Stone remixes where Jagger adds new lead vocals to old, unreleased tracks maybe could've benefited from this.)

And to Renny...I agree about your duping comment, but you'd still need at least the Blue comp for the clean, unsegued open to "A Day In The Life". :wink:

Jagger's voice has held up much better over the last few years than McCartney's. I'm surprised any computer would have enough processing power to de-age his current voice.

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I'm curious how AI actually does this. What we call AI isn't really AI. It's essentially sophisticated plagiarism software that completes the most logical step in a series from all the possibilities on the internet, so what if AI is used to retouch his vocals, does that mean it takes all his earlier vocals, parcel them out, and substitute those sounds for the horrible old man sounds he's making when he records the current vocal? Is there a part of this I'm not understanding?

Genuinely curious if someone has a nice, clear answer to the nature of this process.


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