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Darin
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet  Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:23 pm |
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Being an avid Star Trek observer and also a submarine veteran, I thought I'd pose this match up. Of course, I'm going to go with my boys in the submarine force... but some of you may have other thoughts on this one.
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:34 am |
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Doesn't Starfleet have a marine corps which we've never seen?
How would this work? Would they send a starship of marines into space to do naval operations on another planet?
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:41 am |
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Good Stuff, Maynard!
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Of course we saw them. They were a big part of going & battling the Xindi in the 3rd(?) season of Enterprise. In the grey camo?
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:12 am |
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Those soldiers were called MACOs, short for Military Assault Command Operations. They were not normally part of the Terran Starfleet chain of command, but the unit onboard Enterprise was assigned to Archer and followed his orders. If there are any "Starfleet marines," then they're probably more like the soldiers seen in a few DS9 episodes during the war against the Dominion.
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Darin
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:07 am |
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I figure Starfleet personnel can't hold their liquor like a submarine crew. Starfleet uses synthohol, after all.
Then there's that goofy Starfleet fighting style with all those energy-wasting roundhouse kicks and two-handed punches up against the real fighting moves taught by our military.
Starfleet always has their weapons set to "stun." Navy weapons are permanently set to "penetrate."
The only advantage I can see for Starfleet is all the hot chics they have. That would distract the all-male submarine crew something fierce.
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:07 am |
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Transporters and transporter buffers. Submariners wouldn't even be in a fight.
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Darin
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:43 am |
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Yeah, but we have tattoos! End of story!
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:14 pm |
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Bigger and Better!
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Sulu made several references to seamen.
Oh wait... nevermind.
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Mark
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:39 pm |
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I was an airdale. Not a submariner. I tend to think fleet personnel get it.
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Darin
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:04 pm |
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:07 pm |
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Roomier than I'd imagine.
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Darin
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:26 pm |
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That's due in large part to the heavy use of COTS (consumer off the shelf) technology for this class. Older ones like the one I served on used clunky contract-technology.
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Post subject: US Submarine Force vs Starfleet Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:27 pm |
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