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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:07 pm |
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Bobson Dugnutt wrote: There really was no reason for Clooney to die. In space, just the slightest tug on her tether would have pulled him back. It seemed strange for them to miss something that big, to the point that it's a major story element. I beg to differ. George Clooney's character, Matt Kowalski may be weightless but he isn't MASSLESS. Kowalski's mass will still slow Ryan down as she is heading for the air lock and she is on the verge of suffocation in her space suit. I saw the reason for Kowalski's sacrifice as perfectly plausible.
What was more unrealistic, but I was willing to overlook was how close the International Space Station just happened to be, and that it was possible for both astronauts to make it the station so relatively quickly. But I wanted to believe in the movie, so this was something easy for me to suspend my disbelief in.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:09 pm |
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Hope to see it this weekend, that's if they stop calling me in for OT every weekend.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:35 pm |
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Boney Fingers Jones
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Saw Gravity tonight and it is pretty good. Quite a predicament and plucky acting by Sandra Bullock. Worth seeing on the big screen. The soundtrack reminded me of Tangerine Dream. The voice of Houston was Ed Harris who starred in his own space adventure years ago called The Right Stuff.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:00 am |
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Bigger and Better!
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:17 am |
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Best disaster movie that I've seen in years.
Tons of amazing coincidences and some cheesy dialogue, but it was an exciting ride.
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Steve
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:44 am |
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Unbelievably brilliant.
Saw Captain Phillips later that same day. Also amazing.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:38 am |
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Imagine plucky Captain Phillips up in space in Gravity. Pirates in space!
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:25 pm |
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Boney Fingers Jones
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Couldn't help thinking at the end of Gravity which reminds one of Planet Of The Apes how the movie could have moved from a straight "science" tale to a real sci-fi tale. The radio silence the astronauts deal with is actually Earth running amuck and the planet has been suddenly over run by ....... Zombies!!  Or Apes!! Or Gigantic bugs!! 
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Rafael
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:19 am |
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Whoa.
Even with all the hype..
Whoa.
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Rafael
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:29 am |
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(T)Eddy wrote: Bobson Dugnutt wrote: There really was no reason for Clooney to die. In space, just the slightest tug on her tether would have pulled him back. It seemed strange for them to miss something that big, to the point that it's a major story element. I beg to differ. George Clooney's character, Matt Kowalski may be weightless but he isn't MASSLESS. Kowalski's mass will still slow Ryan down as she is heading for the air lock and she is on the verge of suffocation in her space suit. I saw the reason for Kowalski's sacrifice as perfectly plausible.
What was more unrealistic, but I was willing to overlook was how close the International Space Station just happened to be, and that it was possible for both astronauts to make it the station so relatively quickly. But I wanted to believe in the movie, so this was something easy for me to suspend my disbelief in. No. Brachy is right. Without gravity or another force interacting with him, a tug would bring him back. It's probably the movie's biggest fault.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:40 am |
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Kind Of Close For One Of These Jewels.
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Haven't seen it yet, but if it's what I'm imagining, two people tethered together in space, if she tugged on the guy it would slow her down, maybe stop her, possibly even reverse her direction, depending on how hard she tugged on him. There's going to be conservation of linear momentum.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:14 am |
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You Beaches think you're so smart, don't you?
Well, we do too.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:15 am |
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Jilerb wrote: Haven't seen it yet, but if it's what I'm imagining, two people tethered together in space, if she tugged on the guy it would slow her down, maybe stop her, possibly even reverse her direction, depending on how hard she tugged on him. There's going to be conservation of linear momentum. It is like this: after a dangerous arrival to the ISS, both characters are looking for something to hold on and Bullock's character eventually gets tangled in parachute cables (from the Soyouz module). She manages to get a hold of Clooney (broken) tether and then he decides to detach the cable because she wouldn't let him go, sacrificing himself. But as it has been pointed out, the sacrifice was unnecessary, as a simple tug would've been enough to bring him closer to her.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:22 am |
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Yes it is really that good. I saw it yesterday and wouldn't mind seeing it again in 3-D. 
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:44 am |
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Rafael wrote: Jilerb wrote: Haven't seen it yet, but if it's what I'm imagining, two people tethered together in space, if she tugged on the guy it would slow her down, maybe stop her, possibly even reverse her direction, depending on how hard she tugged on him. There's going to be conservation of linear momentum. It is like this: after a dangerous arrival to the ISS, both characters are looking for something to hold on and Bullock's character eventually gets tangled in parachute cables (from the Soyouz module). She manages to get a hold of Clooney (broken) tether and then he decides to detach the cable because she wouldn't let him go, sacrificing himself. But as it has been pointed out, the sacrifice was unnecessary, as a simple tug would've been enough to bring him closer to her. But that lack of a tug which sends one astronaut spiraling out into space  does set up one of the big scenes later in the movie. And what a grand vodka moment that is. 
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:31 am |
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Kind Of Close For One Of These Jewels.
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Like I said, I haven't seen it yet and I'm not getting a clear picture in my mind, but somebody said tugging on him would slow her down and she was already on the verge of dying due to suffocation, so I can understand the need for the sacrifice if that were the case. But if she was well attached to the station on one side (with parachute cords) and to Clooney on the other side (with his tether) and pulled on him, both he and the station would move more toward her (though the much more massive station moving less noticeably). Taking time to do this may or may not have cost her her life - it may have taken more than one simple tug to make the adjustments necessary to put Clooney on the right vector and bring him to the station since his velocity may still have had other tangential vector components that would make him miss the station, lest he move toward it but still eventually miss it, since he has no way to adjust his vector. Did she have the time to make multiple adjustments, or are you assuming there were no tangential components to Clooney's velocity? Could she tie his tether to the parachute cords so he could eventually drag himself in? Did Clooney have much more time (and air) than she did? Is there a Youtube clip of the offending scene?
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:47 am |
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JohnG wrote: Rafael wrote: Jilerb wrote: Haven't seen it yet, but if it's what I'm imagining, two people tethered together in space, if she tugged on the guy it would slow her down, maybe stop her, possibly even reverse her direction, depending on how hard she tugged on him. There's going to be conservation of linear momentum. It is like this: after a dangerous arrival to the ISS, both characters are looking for something to hold on and Bullock's character eventually gets tangled in parachute cables (from the Soyouz module). She manages to get a hold of Clooney (broken) tether and then he decides to detach the cable because she wouldn't let him go, sacrificing himself. But as it has been pointed out, the sacrifice was unnecessary, as a simple tug would've been enough to bring him closer to her. But that lack of a tug which sends one astronaut spiraling out into space  does set up one of the big scenes later in the movie. And what a grand vodka moment that is.  Well, yeah. It's one of the movie's most pivotal moments and I'm not saying it ruins the movie; I just wanted to point out that Beachy is right. It's still the best movie of the year by far.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:19 pm |
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At least George could have gotten a happy ending before he spiraled into space....a rub and tug.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 11:37 pm |
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As of now,I'd say that this will get a Best Picture Oscar.The scientific spoilsports can carp about its implausibilties,and the story may even be a bit corny at its core.Doesn't matter.You should see this in a theater,even if it's in 3-D. Great picture show.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:48 am |
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Saw it a second time today. I should've left it with the first viewing.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:26 am |
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I'm surprised that Sandra was allowed to give George a tug on screen.
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Post subject: Is "Gravity" really this good? Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:29 pm |
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I saw it today on IMAX 3D. Very well done. About what I was expecting. Possibly suffered a little bit from the hype factor, but it was filmed and acted with heart.
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