and here comes yet another Zappa vault release 2 discs



1 -
Intro
Sleazette
Mozart Piano Sonata in B flat
The Walking Zombie Music
The Old Curiosity Shoppe
You Never Know Who Your Friends Are
Uncle Rhebus

2-
Music From the Big Squeeze
Enigmas 1 thru 5
Pumped and Waxed
There Is No Heaven From Where the Slogans Go To Die
Squeeze It, Squeeze It, Squeeze It
The Subcutaneous Peril

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ACCQRM6/?tag=imwan-20

What is this? Studio out takes? Live? year? any guesses?

I think it is live. My guess is it is material from the original 12 record set the History and Collected Improvisations of FZ and the MOI.

Years ago 1 side of one of the records leaked out to traders -

This is the details on that - the first 5 tracks could very well be these -

Probably one side of the unreleased multiple-LP collection "The History And Collected Improvisations Of The Mothers Of Invention". Parts are recorded at The Royal Albert Hall in London in 1969; parts are studio recording.
Here are the made up titles from the traders -

Albert Hall Spoken Introduction
Chamber Music Piece 1
Mozart Ballet (parts on YCDTOSA5)
Some Zany MOI Bullshit
Chamber Music Piece
(I like the stuff from this tape - there are also tapes of two of the other discs out there)

Also - from February 16, 1969, The Ballroom, Stratford CT Skweezit Skweezit Skweezit on the Mystery Disc -

The Subcutaneous Peril - Is known as a solo from Carnigie Hall (from the 2 disc version of Just Another Band From LA - not released as such) but it could be something else. Sometimes FZ recycled titles - (IF this is The History...it was pre 1971).

My guess is this is something he broke down from the set - maybe added something "new" (1971) and set it aside.

As we already have seen - Understanding America really only has 1 unique track.
This could have been all unique material when originally put together - but over the years some things have come out officially and unofficially.

God only knows what FZ had in the vault - he was constantly working there 18 hours a day/night when not on tour - constantly arranging - rearranging and then moving onto something else. We will probably never hear 95% of the contents.

another clue -

You Never Know Who Your Friends Are

Performances | Comments | Conceptual Continuity
FZ album(s) in which song has appeared:

unreleased? -- recorded at Criteria Studios, Miami, FL, c. February, 1969

Comments:
Extracted information from an auctioned document (see scan below)

Name and Address of Studio: Criteria
Employer's name and: Warner Bros Records
Leader's name: Frank Zappa
Name of Artist or Group: The Mothers
No. of Minutes: 2.20
TITLES OF TUNES: You Never Know Who Your Friends Are
EMPLOYEE'S NAME:
Frank Zappa
Roy Estrada
Don Preston
Jim C. Black
Arthur D. Tripp III
John Gardner
Buzz Gardner
Ian Underwood
James E. Sherwood
Lowell George

Phonograph Recording Contract Blank

Looks like a MOI comp FZ put together in 1972

here are hints that this would be a 1972 Mothers Of Invention compilation project. Here are some more recording contracts (including the "Pumped And Waxed" one), all dated on June 26, 1972, whether they're recorded in Mayfair Studios, 1967 ("Music From The Big Squeeze"), Criteria Studios, Miami, 1969 ("You Never Know Who Your Friends Are"), The Ark, Boston, 1969 ("Uncle Rhebus"), or Zappa's basement, date unknown ("Pumped And Waxed"):

I still don't have much interest in Understanding America......but this one looks good.

pre-order available at Amazon and elsewhere

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ACCQRM6/?tag=imwan-20

more details are emerging

1. Intro 1:20
2. Sleazette 3:33
3. Mozart Piano Sonata In Bb 6:21
4. The Walking Zombie Music 3:23
5. The Old Curiosity Shoppe 7:07
6. You Never Know Who Your Friends Are 2:20
7. Uncle Rhebus 17:45

1. Music From The Big Squeeze 0:42
2. Enigmas 1 Thru 5 8:15
3. Pumped And Waxed 4:19
4. There Is No Heaven From Where Slogans Go To Die 4:37
5. Squeeze It, Squeeze It, Squeeze It 3:17
6. The Subcutaneous Peril 19:41

Bump: Cover image (and the Amazon link) now added to the first post.

http://www.bol.com/nl/p/finer-moments/1 ... uct_images

Some sound samples could be found here.

Sounds like a whole lotta music - sort of another Weasels Ripped My Flesh type collection which is PERFECTLY Fine by me.

Looks like a Burnt Weeny reference on the front cover.

Uncle Rhebus - sounds like a King Kong solos
The Old Curiosity Shoppe - Billy the Mountain solos?

This is indeed Finer Moments - sort of a Shut Up N Play Yer Instrument?

Should know by Wednesday.

There is a 2 disc version of Just Another Band From LA?

At one point there was gonna be a 2 disc version of JABFLA.

Billy the Mountain was expanded and there were solo's from King Kong and A Pound For A Brown.

One of them had the title of The Subcutaneous Peril - unsure whether or not it's the same or not as FZ reused - used titles.

Billy The Mountain Pt. 2 (JABFLA, with solos), The Subcutaneous Peril (= Pound For A Brown solo), An Easy Substitute For Eternity Itself (= King Kong solos)



Both came from the Carnigie Hall show.

Somewhere along the way - it got shortened - but a aceate copy got out - it is alive amongst the trading circles (zappateers).

The SQ is OK. It is very interesting. ...or so I am told.

Here's the entire 8/7/71 Pauley Pavillion show that JABFLA was taken from.....(divided into 6 YouTube segments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4othwJk ... C8&index=1

I've listened to Billy The Mountain so much over the year that I can tell where the edited parts are listening to this.

more investigating yielded the following from zappateers


http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/ ... um/1896231

The Big Squeeze seems to be the same as the Lost Episodes, and the sample of Squeeze It matches the Mystery Disc version - no surprises there.

I found a match for There Is No Heaven From Where Slogans Go To Die. It appears to be the same as You Call That Music? on YCDTOSA vol. 4. That track is 4:07, and the version on the Artisan acetate, titled 'East L.A.', is 4:59; the Finer Moments version is listed as 4:37, which splits the difference.

The sample for The Subcutaneous Peril is, indeed, the Pound for a Brown solo from Carnegie Hall, which was to have been released under the same title on the second disc of JABFLA. Except that can't possibly be all of it, because the Finer Moments track is 19:41, while the purported JABFLA track, which comprises the whole solo, clocks in at 5:15. So that's a mystery. Maybe it's a collage of different improvisations?

The sample for Enigmas 1 Thru 5 is all percussion. I'd guess that it's studio, rather than live. The sample for Pumped and Waxed is mostly electronic tones, with those telephone-button harmonies Frank loved, along with some pizzicato guitar.

Just picked up my copy -

1. Intro 1:20 from 6/6/69
2. Sleazette 3:33 from 6/6/69
3. Mozart Piano Sonata In Bb 6:21 from 6/6/69
4. The Walking Zombie Music 3:23 from 6/6/69
5. The Old Curiosity Shoppe 7:07 from Chicago 5/21/71
6. You Never Know Who Your Friends Are 2:20 studio cut
7. Uncle Rhebus 17:45 7/7 or8/69 (the Ark)

1. Music From The Big Squeeze 0:42 studio
2. Enigmas 1 Thru 5 8:15 Sept 68 just FZ and A Tripp
3. Pumped And Waxed 4:19 FZ basement 72
4. There Is No Heaven From Where Slogans Go To Die 4:37 68/69 10 piece band with guest Dave Samuels on vibes
5. Squeeze It, Squeeze It, Squeeze It 3:17 Ct 2/16/69
6. The Subcutaneous Peril 19:41 Carnige Hall 10/11/71

in liner notes - assembled while in wheelchar along with
JABFLA, Grand Wazoo, Waka Jawaka and "Density of the Fourth Patina (if you're counting) is/was Hunchentoot. Who knew? And these Finer Moments.

Both Hunchentoot and Finer Moments in bold.

Transfers by Joe Travers at UMRK 28 March 2007.

I have questions -

Could Hunchentoot also finally be coming out?

If this was waiting on the back burner since 2007 - whay else is on the stove?

The Subcutaneous Peril 19:41 Carnige Hall 10/11/71

72 Stereo tweakage by FZ with Kerry McNabb, Paramount, LA

Actual liner notes (what I posted before was summarized in my words)
Welcome. What we have here is a Welcome Mat. This special invitation comes with a bit of flooring - over by the chrome dinette.
So what we got is some linoleum (and later some vinyl) which we are recycling right here on the floor. Yes. Too late to be wanting
any more. We will just have to be satisfied with the dense if not entirely ecumenical patina which has existed for years: nothing has
changed. This is somewhat about flooring and the navigation thereof. FZ definitely wheelin' and dealin' in his wheelchair rigged to
support an epic plaster cast with a bit of sinister footwear strapped to a modified stirrup - this was the condition the condition was in
when he worked up Just Another Band From L. Waka/Jawaka. GRAND WAZOO and Density of the Fourth Patina (if you're counting)
is/was HUNCHentoot. Who knew? And these Finer Moments. You will not see/hear their like again in this dimension. Lucky for us all
that FZ captured them in the camera of his mind. and in camera in the vault.

That's what the liner notes say.

What say I? - The music is GREAT.
favorites Walking Zombie Music, The Old Curiosity Shoppe, Uncle Rhebus, Enigmas 1 Thru 5, There Is No Heaven..., the Subcutaneous Peril.

I finally got around to listening to this......really like it....well put together. There's lots of time where I prefer listening to FZ albums like this instead of his rock stuff.

The last (2+ minutes) of Uncle Rhebus (after the King Kong solos) is a piece of orchestral music that has been on numerous albums under different titles....it's part of Bogus Pomp on OF/LSO.....anyone know if it had an actual name?

I'm on my 2nd listen. Unfortunately, same feeling as the first time: I called this my #5 best album of 2012 based on disc 1, but I can't stand disc 2 (other than the last song which is great). Weird. I should probably make a compilation with all of disc 1 & Subteranious Peril from disc 2!

Disc 1 is much stronger - I agree - much more what I view as music - as are the last 2 tracks on disc 2.
The balance of disc 2 is more out there - for me it took several listens to get it.
I am glad that the ZFT put this out there.