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 Post subject: For the FIRST TIME EVER: Hanzo the Razor Reads ALAN MOORE'S MIRACLEMAN!!!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:17 am 
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Skipped #8 because it was mostly filler material (but will likely revisit it after the Moore material is done)... that said, read #9 earlier in the week but didn't feel like reviewing it.

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This was an alright issue. I admire the creativity and boldness to try new things, but ultimately it wasn't super-entertaining to me to hear "deep thoughts" while Rick Veitch draws a poorly rendered childbirth sequence.

It made me wonder if Moore had recently had his first child when he wrote this issue and wanted to make the birth a big ass deal or something... or if this is what Moore planned from the get-go.

In any case, not too many thoughts on this one. Sorry... hopefully #10 will bear more fruit review-wise.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:07 am 
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Yeah, Veitch isn't that great of an artist, especially compared to the competition on Miracleman.


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Who was the best Marvelman artist ? My vote is Garry Leach, then Davis

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I'd vote for Leach as well. Totleben is a close second, but he loses points for writing that awful run on "Uncanny."


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:14 pm 
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Leach.


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Leach.

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Hanzo, you intending to read the story from Warrior # 4 and the Warpsmith stories ?

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Gerry wrote:
Hanzo, you intending to read the story from Warrior # 4 and the Warpsmith stories ?

I'm not sure what you mean... I have MM #1-16. Besides the MM 3-D framing sequence, isn't that all the Moore MM material?


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 Post subject: For the FIRST TIME EVER: Hanzo the Razor Reads ALAN MOORE'S MIRACLEMAN!!!
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No, there was a story in Warrior 4 set a wee bit in the future with Marvelman and the warpsmiths fighting johnny bates. The Warpsmith stories are also set in the MM universe

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those stories are online here http://thewarriorscomicbookden.blogspot ... comic.html

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Is that set after MM #16? I'd like to read everything in continuity order, if possible.


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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
Is that set after MM #16? I'd like to read everything in continuity order, if possible.


NERD ALERT.

(I believe it is set between the panels of MM 15.)


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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
Is that set after MM #16? I'd like to read everything in continuity order, if possible.


it was originally intended to take place during Moore's Third book of the series

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I know where it was set in continuity but when was it published? Did Moore do this story earlier knowing what would happen in #15?

Steve Dillon's art was like Davis at times. He'd be a good choice for MM too.

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Gerry wrote:


Thanks.I have the Trades .Oddly enough Book one starts with the Terrorists driving into the city. It was only years later that I found out it should have started with the Miracleman Family Dream adventure.The Trades are are also missing #8 and Warrior # 4.


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Allen Berrebbi wrote:
I know where it was set in continuity but when was it published? Did Moore do this story earlier knowing what would happen in #15?

Steve Dillon's art was like Davis at times. He'd be a good choice for MM too.


it was published in Warrior #4 August 1982.

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loved Mick Austin's covers featuring MM
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Those are pretty awesome.


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Heh, speaking of painted Miracleman...

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Watch Chris Weston Paint Miracleman [Video]

Known for his consistently excellent work on titles like The Twelve, Ministry of Space and Judge Dredd, Chris Weston is one of the most skilled draftsmen in comics. His work is characterized by a tightly rendered style that's often startling to behold, especially on deeply immersive works like The Filth. A new short film by Elliot Dale offers a captivating glimpse into how the British illustrator actually creates those images, including a particularly lovely painting of Miracleman (aka Marvelman).

Watch at fullscreen and crank up that Moonlight Sonata.

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/04/2 ... ing-video/


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:52 am 
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Man, the content per issues seems kinda lame. At the halfway point of the folded booklet, the main Miracleman story ends and then some back-up filler begins. I think these have about 12 or 14 pages of Alan Moore Miracleman content per issue... but content-wise, you get get more than your money's worth.

I read #10, 11 and 12 last night... just 4 more issues to go until I've completed Moore's run. As I read this series, it's funny to me that the best Superman and Captain Marvel stories of the modern era of comics (IMO, natch) were both written by Moore and don't even feature the "real" versions of the characters -- instead, we get Supreme and Miracleman.

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This series is really getting great. I think this is the strongest stuff so far, with Moore's narration really improved over the early issues of the series, becoming much more poetic and establishing mood far more effectively.

Also welcome is John Totleben as of issue #11, a marked improvement over Rick Veitch and Chuck Beckum... but not quite up to the level of Gary Leach and Alan Davis, IMO. He's just a hair under them. That said, his work here is beautiful and perfectly captures the beautiful, tragic and mysterious nature of Moore's writing in these issues.

For me, the introduction of Miracle Woman and the aliens used in creating the Miracleman Family really got things very interesting. Miracle Woman's creepy origins were probably a bit more shocking back in the day but the perspective Moore brings still makes the ideas interesting -- her view that being raped while asleep was nothing when compared to the joy of complete freedom and power she had while in the virtual reality Gargunza created is an interesting one. I think most writers would have gone for the obvious "bitter and traumatized" route here, but Moore makes the character much more mentally strong than that, viewing Gargunza as a laughable insect rather than a powerful jailer.

Seeing the limbo dimension where the host bodies are stored during transformations was also pretty cool -- and slightly creepy, seeing those sleeping, lifeless bodies all hovering in dead space like that. You always hear of the limbos these transformation-based characters go into, but to actually see one was a pretty brilliant move.

And finally, seeing Kid Miracleman trick Johnny into being around other children was a grim and ominous foreshadowing of things to come, especially the infamous rape scene. Johnny really becomes the series' most tragic character and you can't help but feel for this little boy thrust into a living hell.

Anyway, as said, 4 more issues to go!


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