Disc: 1
1. The Magnificent Seven
2. Hitsville U.K.
3. Junco Partner
4. Ivan Meets G.I. Joe
5. The Leader
6. Something About England
7. Rebel Waltz
8. Look Here
9. The Crooked Beat
10. Somebody Got Murdered
11. One More Time
12. One More Dub
Disc: 2
1. Lightning Strikes (Not Once But Twice)
2. Up In Heaven (Not Only Here)
3. Corner Soul
4. Let’s Go Crazy
5. If Music Could Talk
6. The Sound Of Sinners
7. Police On My Back
8. Midnight Log
9. The Equaliser
10. The Call Up
11. Washington Bullets
12. Broadway
Disc: 3
1. Lose This Skin
2. Charlie Don’t Surf
3. Mensforth Hill
4. Junkie Slip
5. Kingston Advice
6. The Street Parade
7. Version City
8. Living In Fame
9. Silicone On Sapphire
10. Version Pardner
11. Career Opportunities
12. Shepherds Delight

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008JL5ARA/?tag=imwan-21

I'm sincerely hoping that they buck the usual trend of adding bonus discs and instead cut this down to one disc. There's an outstanding album in there somewhere, but even Combat Rock was better than the 5-sided mess that was Sandinista. There is no possible chance that a decent track remained on the cutting room floor.

This is my favorite Clash album, but there is alot of excess on it.....pretty much all of the instrumental/dubs and the complete side 6 is a waste.

I'm not a Combat Rock fan.

A few Web sites are saying this will be 2 CDs and a DVD.....but no information on extras otherwise.

So you want less music from one of the greatest bands of all time? Removing songs from the re-release would make you happy?

Try this... if there are enough outakes to make up what would have been the 4th record to the album...you don't want to hear it? ...ever? You want it to remain unreleased, period? There is "No Chance" that a decent track remains unreleased? ...un-freaking-believable.

You are not a fan of the Clash, or even popular music IMO.

This commonly regurgitated thought process that Sandanista was "too long". Put some thought into it, and realize that if it was released as a single album, and a few years later if all rest of the material was released as "bonus" stuff...Clash fans would be losing their minds with joy. I would.

The songs that make up the "great album" buried in Sandanista are still there...what are you complaining about?

Let's take the "crap" out of the White Album by the Beatles and make it a proper single album of the "great" cuts.
Let's take the "crap" out of Exile on Main St. by the Stones and make it a proper single album of the "great" cuts.
Let's take the "crap" out of Bitches Brew by Miles Davis and make it a proper single album of the "great" cuts.

Poor baby was given too many Clash songs on his record....unreal.

When "Sandinista" was first released, everyone thought it was a bit long, so they made cassettes of their favorite songs from the album. Thing is, everyone had different ideas of what to include. Yeah, it was a sprawling mess that nobody agreed on (including the band) but that was a part of its appeal, and it was sold at a double album price to boot. A deluxe edition with a live set (maybe from Bonds?) would be most welcome.

Even though I stated above the parts I don't like, I wouldn't change it either.

I think I have a promo-only condensed (vinyl) version of Sandinista, edited for radio stations.

A quick Google check confirms that there was such a promo, titled Sandinista Now!

I guess that's what WNEW FM was using.....they used to play alot of tracks when Sandinista came out.

Sandinista Now track list....
http://clash.wikia.com/wiki/Sandinista_Now!
They cut out quite a bit......no Broadway or Lightning Strikes.

The Clash's great album was London Calling, and the two before it were better as well. One of the greatest bands of all time? I agree. Incapable of error? No. Sandinista is overindulgent. Even the similarly bloated White Album was only 4 sides (as are your other examples), and like that album it was an indicator that the band was falling apart. The Sandinista Now! promo looks like a better idea. That's 50 minutes. I'd add Lightning Strikes and Corner Soul and you're welcome to fill the remaining 25 minutes with whatever dreck.

Screw the "commonly regurgitated thought process". I was buying Clash albums when they were still imports. Sandinista was one of the biggest letdowns imaginable from "The only band that matters". The reason why the common response is that it's too long is because it is. This isn't the Bible we're talking about, it's OK to trim the fat off an album that reflects badly on the band's legacy. There's 144 minutes of music on there, how could you possibly think that they held back anything worthwhile? Do you think the world is waiting for a dub version of Ivan Meets GI Joe? Outtakes? As you say, this is one of the greatest rock bands in history, they had three sides to fill up. You think they didn't know which songs were good enough for inclusion? there is ZERO chance that a decent song remains in the can. If Sandinista had been released as a single album, it would be hailed as the equivalent of London Calling. Rolling Stone's #1 album of the Eighties. If the remaining material was released as a double album in place of Combat Rock, the public would have avoided it in droves and Clash fans would rank it below Cut The Crap. As it stands, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who ranks it above #3 in their list of favorite Clash records. It's just not that good.

And yes, the general public would not be upset if Revolution #9 and two other songs were relegated to the Past Masters set. The album certainly doesn't isn't their best work, and like Sandinista, there have been complaints since it was released that it should have been pared down. You say it's perfect, the majority say it's not. You'd be a genius on the level of Galileo if your opinion was justified in light of the overwhelming opinion against you. I wouldn't rank Exile as one of the top three Stones albums but I'd leave it be, especially as it only fills 3/4 of a CD and therefore isn't the flight of fancy that Sandinista is. I don't like fusion-era Miles so my opinion is invalid.

I've highlighted a few of the doozies...

1. Who cares when you were buying Clash records? That is the best you can do as far as making you some form of authority? You come off sounding like a 12 year old. (And I don't doubt for a second I owned a Clash record before you did, BTW)

2. I never said Sandinista was perfect. Never. You are changing my words to hyperbole and exaggeration to make a point.

3. There is ZERO chance a good song remains in the can? Is this based on some knowledge you have? ...or just your great love and respect for a band that has proven they have tons of valid outtakes? (Rat Patrol from Ft Bragg) The Clash forum right now has many threads debating which songs will make the cut. Here are a few mentioned by one poster (there are many people posting songs I have never heard of, and I have no idea whether they are valid songs, but these posters sure sound like they know their Clash a hell of a lot more than you),...

Radio W.J.U.B.
When It's Over
Sax Festival
Freedom Train
Get Up For The Sun
Runnin' (Version)
Blone Rock N' Roll
King Of The Road
J.B., King Of Soul

Guess these have ZERO chance of being any good?...and you certainly don't want them included do you? No, you don't. Cuz you are spoiled snob who doesn't appreciate anything but the crap going on in your own head. What are you even doing in the "from the vaults" section anyway, if you don't want stuff form the vaults because it all has ZERO chance of being good?

I'm going to now go look for an "ignore" feature on this board so I don't have to waste my time reading your posts since there is ZERO chance i'll find anything of value....

I really liked Sandinista when it came out. That was during the time I would go to clubs and that album was all over the place (on the radio and in the clubs). Great stuff.

I'd put myself in the club of people who stripped out the things that they liked, put them on their own compilation tape and didn't listen very much to the rest. That being said, it's the artistic statement of the band, so I wouldn't suggest that it needs to be messed with now. I'd leave it as it is. I can still remember picking up my import vinyl copy at the Coop in Harvard Square.

In the spirit of ICE, can we please stick to the merits of the music and avoid personal insults?

Thanks.

Jimbo sucks!

I have a Clash comp (the old The Singles CD), which is enough for me, but I probably would have gone with London Calling if I had to pick one individual album from their catalog to own.

This thread confirms Sandinista would not be the one I'd pick. Too much music, too sprawling from what I read here.

And you Sandinista brawlers, lighten up a bit, will ya? One of the hallmarks of ICE has always been we can agree to disagree and have some fun with it. No one's opinion is gospel. It's just that, an opinion.

And we all know what they say about opinions....

For me personally, I'd like to see it released with the unreleased stuff. Those who don't want that can just choose not to buy it. Condensing this album can be done easily enough at home by burning a single CD-R.

I don't think I want to see this sentence finished...or do I?

I third the request for the dialogue to stay respectful. One of the great things about it is the lack of vitriol.

I love Sandinista!. I like London Calling and the first album even more, but I prefer it to Rope and Combat Rock.

Like others, I'll take any unreleased stuff they have, and any live footage or tracks they feel like offering.

Like other others, I also think I would have edited down the record to a double. Here would be my tracklist:

1. Magnificent Seven
2. Hitsville UK
3. Junco Partner
4. Ivan Meets GI Joe
5. The Leader
6. Something About England

1. Rebel Waltz
2. Look Here
3. The Crooked Beat
4. Somebody Got Murdered
5. One More Time
6. The Street Parade

1. Lightning Strikes
2. Up In Heaven
3. Corner Soul
4. Let's Go Crazy
5. Charlie Don't Surf
6. The Sound Of The Sinners

1. Police On My Back
2. Midnight Log
3. The Equaliser
4. The Call Up
5. Washington Bullets
6. Broadway


Jeff

Great reworking......I'd probably replace The Equaliser with Lose This Skin. I know I'm in the minority on Lose This Skin, but I love it.

My apologies I got too worked up earlier in the thread. ...sorry.

One point I would make to some of the tracks that might get labeled "filler" to some. I think these might be the "Dub" tracks? 1980 was right about the peak of Dub in Jamaica/England. And being a fan of the genre, I consider these some of the most amazing tracks laid down on Sandinista. (I do realize most people do not.). Beautiful stuff, but not built to be radio hits.

I remember Mick Jones saying something to the effect that the whole concept of Sandinista was experiment and creating a great deal of music that would be appreciated over the years...not for immediate "fast food" consumption/satisfaction. I feel this is the very reason the record has steadily grown on people as the decades have gone by...

I appreciate what the band was trying to do. It would have been easy to create a single album. Very easy in fact. They tried to do something unique and took strides to make it affordable as well. In an era of marketing, the bottom dollar, and an impatient public...The Clash went the other direction. I am nothing but appreciative of Sandinista.

A beautifully imperfect record that isn't one second too long. And put me down for as many more songs from those sessions that exist..can't wait.

Can "Rat Patrol from Ft. Bragg" be far behind? ...Just as excited about that!!!!

Love "Lose This Skin", one of my favorites on the album. Feel the same about 'The Equaliser", which proves my point that there is no consensus about what constitutes the best songs from this album. It's basically whatever works for you, go for it. Which makes Sandinista very punk rock at heart.

When Sandinista came out in the US, The Clash sold it for less than the price of a double album at the time. They wanted to charge even less but Sony / Columbia said no dice. The Clash were hardcore about making certain their fans got the best deals. London Calling sold for less than the price of a double as well. I wanted to make certain I wasn't imagining this, so here's a link that supports the low cost of Sandinista which, by the way, was voted the Number One Best Album in Rolling Stone that particular year as well as Number One in The Village Voice's annual Pazz and Jop Poll.

http://jdeeth.home.mchsi.com/clash.htm