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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:34 pm |
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Still goofin' with this, trying to find the right fit style and porportions-wise. 
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Evans
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:19 am |
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Boring but true
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I really like the second one. I think fan art generally looks better if it is not in a flat perspective.
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:38 am |
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I agree with Evans, second one is the way to go. It feels much more dynamic and interesting as compared to the fuller-bodied one, to me.
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:59 am |
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Alright, I'm gonna fudge with the shadows and move on to page two. I can't say I'm super happy with this, but I'm never gonna finish if this book if I don't let go. 
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:40 am |
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Agree with everyone else, the upshot is a more dramatic angle. Given the mood you're trying to establish, my tip would be to embrace using more blacks. Bust out those old Sin City and Hellboy books to see what I mean. Wrightson is the master, but his rendering and linework is at such a high level that you can really go down a rabbit hole trying to emulate someone that most people just can't -- his hand control and patience is just off the charts. I hope this is cool, but I put this bad boy into my iPad to give you an idea of what I mean -- 
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:42 am |
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Remember -- no one can see the rest of the room, so the shadows don't all have to make sense. Focus on building an appealing design that ramps up the drama.
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:42 am |
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Hanzo the Razor wrote: Agree with everyone else, the upshot is a more dramatic angle. Given the mood you're trying to establish, my tip would be to embrace using more blacks. Bust out those old Sin City and Hellboy books to see what I mean. Wrightson is the master, but his rendering and linework is at such a high level that you can really go down a rabbit hole trying to emulate someone that most people just can't -- his hand control and patience is just off the charts. I hope this is cool, but I put this bad boy into my iPad to give you an idea of what I mean --  That's awesome! Do you mind if I steal a lot of this for the page? Thanks for the help - that is really cool of you.
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:45 am |
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Do whatever you want, I'm mostly following the light source you established in the drawing.
I did break that light source when I felt it would enhance the sense of depth, create more clarity, or contribute to a more appealing visual design.
Keep in mind, I did this off the seat of my pants without a lot of thought -- almost all improvisation -- so please push anything you like further and give it more thought than I did.
Remember, other artists have worked this stuff out -- break out Mignola, Sin City, Toth, etc.
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:45 am |
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Also, vary your line weights more.
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:51 am |
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Y'know, the Hanzo-fixed version kinda gives me a Paul Pope vibe.
A lot of my reaction is - that's brilliant. Why wasn't I already doing this??? LOL
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:53 am |
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Hanzo the Razor wrote: Also, vary your line weights more. I'll import it into Clip Studio and see what I can do. This was already mostly done before your previous advice, so I couldn't show me adapting the process suggestions you gave. I'll do that for page two and see how it turns out.
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:00 am |
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My advice -- blacks first, then rendering lines. You'll come to find you don't need so many rendering lines.
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:03 am |
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Hanzo the Razor wrote: My advice -- blacks first, then rendering lines. You'll come to find you don't need so many rendering lines. I sure discovered that when I put that shadow in. I covered up a couple hours work. 
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:38 am |
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Alright, quick and dirty black-spotting with a Micron brush-pen. I will clean and sharpen this up on the computer later. Improvement, or did I fudge the whole thing up? 
Last edited by Bolgani Gogo on Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:38 am |
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I think I fudged it up.  I need to be doing this on the Wacom.
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:52 am |
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I've been having a hard time getting motivated to draw lately and this is getting my juices going for some reason, so I went ahead and did a mini inking tutorial -- not that I'm an expert or my way is the best way, but just to show you how I do things as a potential process to consider. This is all quick and dirty and I should have been more careful and deliberate about my line weights and some of the other choices I make, but since this is just a demo for fun, I'm not going to sweat it. First, I do the outlines (I couldn't tell what that large black area is, so I just made it a standard neck tie --  Then, I spot the blacks. I do this by outlining where I think they should go and then filling them in (this turns out to be a very common method, whether on paper or digital) --   And then I do the rendering lines (too lazy to do whatever pattern is on the back wall, LOL) -- 
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:54 am |
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I actually like it better without the rendering lines -- I think I went a little overboard so it would look substantially different from the "spotting blacks" step for the purposes of the demo.
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:08 am |
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Wow, that's way above and beyond Hanzo. Super appreciated!
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:10 am |
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Hanzo the Razor wrote: I actually like it better without the rendering lines -- I think I went a little overboard so it would look substantially different from the "spotting blacks" step for the purposes of the demo. Actually, I like the more rendered version. Next step (in my dream style, anyway) would to get all Gerhard on the textures.
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:04 pm |
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For posterity, this is the point I said, fuck it I'm going digital. No amount of white-out is gonna save this one.  
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:23 pm |
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OK, I hate to admit it, but this was way easier and much faster on the computer.... 
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Bolgani's drawing thread Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:23 pm |
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Trev learning to draw: 
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