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 Post subject: The Latest Mastering Scam: "K2 HDMusic 24 Bit 100khz" On A CD
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:42 pm 
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Simply put, this is physically impossible. They can make a master that way & down sample to 44/16 for cd, but CD WON'T TAKE 24/100. And these discs are selling for $40-$50 each.

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 Post subject: The Latest Mastering Scam: "K2 HDMusic 24 Bit 100khz" On A CD
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:15 pm 
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Well, technically, the CD is just a medium and you encode the data on that medium any way that you want.

Of course, if you encoded it at 100/24, it wouldn't conform to Redbook specs and no CD player would read it...

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 Post subject: The Latest Mastering Scam: "K2 HDMusic 24 Bit 100khz" On A CD
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:09 pm 
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Those CDs are labelled "24-bit/100kHz Mastering" and there's no claim that they play at that resolution. (Whether they sound good and are worth the money are other matters.)

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 Post subject: The Latest Mastering Scam: "K2 HDMusic 24 Bit 100khz" On A CD
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I currently only own one, that being AWB's "Shine"--and I wasn't impressed, although I will say I don't have the title on any other medium so I have nothing to compare it to.


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 Post subject: The Latest Mastering Scam: "K2 HDMusic 24 Bit 100khz" On A CD
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:26 am 
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James, I know you like the SHM releases, but have you been impressed by the Blu-spec ones as well?

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 Post subject: The Latest Mastering Scam: "K2 HDMusic 24 Bit 100khz" On A CD
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:45 am 
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Chinese DVDs now have BluRay symbols on them as well. Very confusing if it's a genuine BluRay. Most of the time they are simply a DVD.

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 Post subject: The Latest Mastering Scam: "K2 HDMusic 24 Bit 100khz" On A CD
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:24 am 
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Linda wrote:
James, I know you like the SHM releases, but have you been impressed by the Blu-spec ones as well?



I have all of the Toto releases (Toto, Hydra, IV, Essential & In The Blink Of An Eye) on Blu-Spec and they are excellent, very "clean" sounding recordings, especially any song with horns. I also have Boz Scaggs-Silk Degrees and 2 versions of Earth, Wind & Fire's "All 'N All" along with their "Greatest Hits Vol. 2" that just came out and those are excellent as well. I would personally rate them above the SHM format.


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 Post subject: The Latest Mastering Scam: "K2 HDMusic 24 Bit 100khz" On A CD
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:35 pm 
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ranasakawa wrote:
Chinese DVDs now have BluRay symbols on them as well. Very confusing if it's a genuine BluRay. Most of the time they are simply a DVD.


The Blu-Spec is similar to SHM: a specialized surface said to reduce jitter & increase readability.

Never heard a Blu-spec. The SHM's I've heard have varied from very good - to awesome; my question continues to be is it the mastering, the surface or both.

I have 2 (intentionally) identical copies of an official sacd here (provided by our own Jim); 1 SHM, 1 not. I haven't yet been able to decide if i definitely hear a difference; though part of that is my exhaustion level. Will post here when I make up my mind, though long story short: a table in my office with about 20% of my inventory on top of it in racks collapsed yesterday, so it may be a few days before it's back to normal here. To quite Alice Cooper, Welcome To My Nightmare...........

From SHM cd's I've actually listened to (a GENERALISED statement is that Universal's tend to sound much better than their USA counterparts while Warner's tend to sound only a little better) is that's it's probably around 75% mastering & 25% the special surface, but that's only a guess.

The above is partially based on the fact that I have also heard rips where a burn of a Universal SHM can sound pretty amazing which would seem to lend credence to the theory that the Japanese tend to have better mastering skills &/or criteria.

In fact (this is from memory, i never did an a/b) I heard rips of the 1st & 3rd Steely Dan that were so good i bought the real shm of the first & while this is going to sound odd, my memory is that the rip sounded slightly better!

At one point Michael Fremer was advancing a theory that a well burned cdr had less jitter than a factory pressed, so it's possible I wasn't imagining things!

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 Post subject: The Latest Mastering Scam: "K2 HDMusic 24 Bit 100khz" On A CD
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:21 pm 
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The first generation shm of "Aja", which I believe to be the first shm that I ever purchased, is simply stunning to my ears.


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 Post subject: The Latest Mastering Scam: "K2 HDMusic 24 Bit 100khz" On A CD
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It's obvious the current Japanese remastering of the Dan Catalog is extremely well done. 44/16 doesn't get much better than that.

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