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 Post subject: The Epic Vault: Rock N' Roll Singles (1965 - 1967) Download Only
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:34 pm 
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This is too obscure for me, but it's the kind of thing that may interest some Icer's. Amazon has it in MP3. Others have it in lossless & hi-res.

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Tracklist:
01. The Alley Cats : Lily of the West [00:02:46]
02. The Bouncin' Beats : The Bounce [00:02:32]
03. Billy Carr : Goodbye Girl [00:02:35]
04. The Bad : Everybody Needs Somebody to Love [00:02:05]
05. The Brigands : I'm a Patient Man [00:01:53]
06. Gary Stites : Hurting [00:02:18]
07. The Tambourines : I Wanna Live [00:03:23]
08. Peter Thom : Don't Stick Your Tongue Out at Me [00:02:10]
09. The Pop Art : Rumpelstiltskin [00:02:24]
10. Jerry and Deborah : Come On In [00:02:49]
11. The Industrial Image : Living In the Middle Ages [00:02:33]
12. The Upper Hand : Real Appeal [00:02:19]
13. Kin Vassy : Gamblin' Man [00:02:26]
14. Dave Heenan Set : Alice In Wonderland [00:02:29]
15. Bobby Sherman : Think of Rain [00:02:21]
16. Larry and The Paper Prophets : Can't Sit Around [00:02:10]
17. The Alley Cats : I Should Have Stayed at Home Tonight [00:02:17]
18. The Bouncin' Beats : I Need Your Love [00:02:23]
19. Billy Carr : Don't Cry Donna [00:02:24]
20. The Bad : She'll Love Me [00:02:42]
21. The Brigands : (Would I Still Be) Her Big Man [00:02:19]
22. Gary Stites : Thinking of You [00:01:54]
23. The Tambourines : Git It! [00:02:08]
24. Peter Thom : Fly Away [00:02:43]
25. The Pop Art : Ode to an Unknown Girl [00:02:02]
26. Jerry and Deborah : Crazy Changes [00:02:24]
27. The Industrial Image : Put My Mind at Ease [00:01:56]
28. The Upper Hand : Little Tear [00:02:29]
29. Kin Vassy : Tracks Run Through the City [00:02:47]
30. Dave Heenan Set : So Many Roads [00:02:53]
31. Bobby Sherman : Cold Girl [00:02:50]
32. Larry and The Paper Prophets : The Only Thing [00:02:10]

https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/1399 ... t_Download

https://www.hdtracks.com/catalogsearch/ ... ll+Singles

or MP3 on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KDGMDX8/?tag=imwan-20

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 Post subject: The Epic Vault: Rock N' Roll Singles (1965 - 1967) Download Only
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:20 am 
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Looks great. I'd buy it on CD.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:36 am 
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It's not my cup of tea, however, I'm thrilled that they're putting this kind of stuff out there. The fact that they're getting it out there in lossless and hi-res is even better! I hope for the day that the concept of MP3 for selling has disappeared. It's fine to convert something to MP3 for cars or mobile devices, but paying full price for MP3s is just wrong in my eyes.

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 Post subject: The Epic Vault: Rock N' Roll Singles (1965 - 1967) Download Only
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It's not my cup of tea, however, I'm thrilled that they're putting this kind of stuff out there. The fact that they're getting it out there in lossless and hi-res is even better! I hope for the day that the concept of MP3 for selling has disappeared. It's fine to convert something to MP3 for cars or mobile devices, but paying full price for MP3s is just wrong in my eyes.


I agree. My understanding is originally, MP3 existed because of slow internet & expensive storage. What's I think is keeping mp3 alive today as a download format (as opposed to streaming only) is mostly Apple/ITunes & Amazon. If Amazon dumped MP3 & went even 16/44 lossless, I suspect mp3 would go the way of the 8 track pretty quickly. Europe is way ahead of us in 16/44 lossless files for sale.; though 7 digital in the USA has a pretty good selection.

Streaming & You Tube is a whole another cup of tea. Even if streaming was lossless, I like to own something, even if it's just a computer file.

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Looks great. I'd buy it on CD.

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Walter P wrote:
It's not my cup of tea, however, I'm thrilled that they're putting this kind of stuff out there. The fact that they're getting it out there in lossless and hi-res is even better! I hope for the day that the concept of MP3 for selling has disappeared. It's fine to convert something to MP3 for cars or mobile devices, but paying full price for MP3s is just wrong in my eyes.

I agree. My understanding is originally, MP3 existed because of slow internet & expensive storage. What's I think is keeping mp3 alive today as a download format (as opposed to streaming only) is mostly Apple/ITunes & Amazon. If Amazon dumped MP3 & went even 16/44 lossless, I suspect mp3 would go the way of the 8 track pretty quickly. Europe is way ahead of us in 16/44 lossless files for sale.; though 7 digital in the USA has a pretty good selection.

Streaming & You Tube is a whole another cup of tea. Even if streaming was lossless, I like to own something, even if it's just a computer file.

Streaming is the only future for digital music that the industry supports. I doubt that there'll be any sites selling individual audio files far into the 2020s.

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Geff R. wrote:
Walter P wrote:
It's not my cup of tea, however, I'm thrilled that they're putting this kind of stuff out there. The fact that they're getting it out there in lossless and hi-res is even better! I hope for the day that the concept of MP3 for selling has disappeared. It's fine to convert something to MP3 for cars or mobile devices, but paying full price for MP3s is just wrong in my eyes.

I agree. My understanding is originally, MP3 existed because of slow internet & expensive storage. What's I think is keeping mp3 alive today as a download format (as opposed to streaming only) is mostly Apple/ITunes & Amazon. If Amazon dumped MP3 & went even 16/44 lossless, I suspect mp3 would go the way of the 8 track pretty quickly. Europe is way ahead of us in 16/44 lossless files for sale.; though 7 digital in the USA has a pretty good selection.

Streaming & You Tube is a whole another cup of tea. Even if streaming was lossless, I like to own something, even if it's just a computer file.

Streaming is the only future for digital music that the industry supports. I doubt that there'll be any sites selling individual audio files far into the 2020s.


Files really do seem to be much more popular in Europe than in the USA. I'd be stunned if they went away in Europe. And I suspect at minimum they'll be a niche like cd & vinyl in the USA.

The labels should have moved everything to blu-ray audio now that manufacturing costs are down & there is some market penetration, but do the labels ever act like they have a clue? :sigh:

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Geff R. wrote:
The labels should have moved everything to blu-ray audio now that manufacturing costs are down & there is some market penetration, but do the labels ever act like they have a clue? :sigh:

The majors do have a clue in the sense that when they put out hi-res physical product nowadays, it's on Blu-ray or DVD, formats that virtually every music listener already owns. The obsession with the commercially dead SACD format is what kept the audiophile companies small and obscure (and has now reached the point of killing them altogether like Audio Fidelity), so I would say it's those labels who don't have a clue.

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Most SACD's have a cd layer that will play on any cd player.

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Doesn't matter. The selling point for an audiophile disc is the high resolution. By sticking with a format that has very low market penetration, and disincentivising legitimate retailers by delaying the general release of their products, the audiophile companies have all locked themselves into a death spiral. Vinyl and reel-to-reel won't save them.

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My point was also compatibility. Hi-res dvd's & blu's don't sound any better than a cd on a cheap player (other than the 5.1, which I know you have strong feelings about).

Years ago, I had a discussion here on ICE with Barry Diament. He made the point that I wasn't impressed with the sound of SACD's because I had a cheap SACD player. Oh man, was he right!

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DanO wrote:
Jason Michael wrote:
Looks great. I'd buy it on CD.

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Maybe Real Gone's relationship with Sony will make this happen.

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Years ago, I had a discussion here on ICE with Barry Diament. He made the point that I wasn't impressed with the sound of SACD's because I had a cheap SACD player. Oh man, was he right!

Mr. Diament is a believer in what you were talking about disparagingly the other day, audio quality as its own selling point rather than audio quality as a selling point for music that we already like.

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My point was also compatibility. Hi-res dvd's & blu's don't sound any better than a cd on a cheap player (other than the 5.1, which I know you have strong feelings about).

Even MP3s decoded out to Dolby surround can sound pretty involving.

An awful lot of mainstream people (casual music listeners) put money into their home theatre systems and don't realise they have excellent audio just waiting to be experienced. Blu-ray is an easy sell in that regard -- people already have it. SACD is an impossible sell outside of audiophiles.

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Years ago, I had a discussion here on ICE with Barry Diament. He made the point that I wasn't impressed with the sound of SACD's because I had a cheap SACD player. Oh man, was he right!

Mr. Diament is a believer in what you were talking about disparagingly the other day, audio quality as its own selling point rather than audio quality as a selling point for music that we already like.

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My point was also compatibility. Hi-res dvd's & blu's don't sound any better than a cd on a cheap player (other than the 5.1, which I know you have strong feelings about).

Even MP3s decoded out to Dolby surround can sound pretty involving.

An awful lot of mainstream people (casual music listeners) put money into their home theatre systems and don't realise they have excellent audio just waiting to be experienced. Blu-ray is an easy sell in that regard -- people already have it. SACD is an impossible sell outside of audiophiles.


I totally disagree re: LOSSY 5.1.

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Geff R. wrote:
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Geff R. wrote:
Years ago, I had a discussion here on ICE with Barry Diament. He made the point that I wasn't impressed with the sound of SACD's because I had a cheap SACD player. Oh man, was he right!

Mr. Diament is a believer in what you were talking about disparagingly the other day, audio quality as its own selling point rather than audio quality as a selling point for music that we already like.

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My point was also compatibility. Hi-res dvd's & blu's don't sound any better than a cd on a cheap player (other than the 5.1, which I know you have strong feelings about).

Even MP3s decoded out to Dolby surround can sound pretty involving.

An awful lot of mainstream people (casual music listeners) put money into their home theatre systems and don't realise they have excellent audio just waiting to be experienced. Blu-ray is an easy sell in that regard -- people already have it. SACD is an impossible sell outside of audiophiles.

I totally disagree re: LOSSY 5.1.

Multichannel is usually a more enjoyable listening experience for me than any resolution in a two-channel soundstage, because surround is the way we hear (from all directions). Of course the best experience is surround in full resolution.

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