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 Post subject: Interesting Email From Bandcamp Re Legal Downloads & Streaming
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 2:15 pm 
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Bandcamp wrote:

Bandcamp, Downloads, Streaming, and the Inescapably Bright Future

In light of a recent report that Apple will soon abandon music downloads (later denied, but undoubtedly containing a certain amount of inevitability), we thought we’d take a moment to update you on the state of Bandcamp’s business and our plans for the future.

Bandcamp grew by 35% last year. Fans pay artists $4.3 million dollars every month using the site, and they buy about 25,000 records a day, which works out to about one every 4 seconds (you can see a real-time feed of those purchases on our desktop home page). Nearly 6 million fans have bought music through Bandcamp (half of whom are younger than 30), and hundreds of thousands of artists have sold music on Bandcamp. Digital album sales on Bandcamp grew 14% in 2015 while dropping 3% industry-wide, track sales grew 11% while dropping 13% industry-wide, vinyl was up 40%, cassettes 49%… even CD sales grew 10% (down 11% industry-wide). Most importantly of all, Bandcamp has been profitable (in the now-quaint revenues-exceed-expenses sense) since 2012.

Subscription-based music streaming,* on the other hand, has yet to prove itself to be a viable model, even after hundreds of millions of investment dollars raised and spent. For our part, we are committed to offering an alternative that we know works. As long as there are fans who care about the welfare of their favorite artists and want to help them keep making music, we will continue to provide that direct connection. And as long as there are fans who want to own, not rent, their music, that is a service we will continue to provide, and that is a model whose benefits we will continue to champion. We have been here since 2008 and we mean to be here in 2028. Thank you!

*Bandcamp is not a download store, and we very much embrace the convenience of streaming. When you buy music on Bandcamp, whether that’s in digital or physical form (30% of sales on Bandcamp are for vinyl and other merchandise), you not only get the pleasure of knowing you’re supporting the artist in a direct and transparent way, you also get instant, unlimited streaming of that music via our free apps for Android and iOS, as well as an optional, high-quality download. Your purchase is about direct support, ownership and access, whether that access takes the form of a stream, download, or both. So please consider joining us in never using “streaming” as shorthand for “subscription-based music.” The former is an inevitable technological shift, the latter is an unproven business model.

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 Post subject: Interesting Email From Bandcamp Re Legal Downloads & Streaming
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 8:25 pm 
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Fair enough, so long as terms like "access" and "ownership" are no longer conflated as well. Judging by incidents such as Amazon's quiet elimination of its Unbox download option for movies--plus an adulthood spent observing how quickly all this technology becomes obsolete--is there any reason not to believe that the days of "purchasing a download" are numbered?

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 8:38 pm 
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I will not get into streaming.
If I can't buy the physical product or download the music, I won't listen.

For the artists I care about, I believe there will always be a way to actually own any new music they may put out.
If not, screw 'em.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 9:17 pm 
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I'm with you on streaming. I don't even play music radio anymore & haven't in years.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 10:50 pm 
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Good for them -- I'm a big backer of Bandcamp. (In fact, I purchased an album download through the site yesterday.)

They embraced lossless and even full WAV downloads, and I've never had technical issues with any of their files. You can fully stream preview tracks and I've been fortunate enough to occasionally discover free downloads by artists that I support.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 11:02 pm 
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Geff R. wrote:
I'm with you on streaming. I don't even play music radio anymore & haven't in years.

I'm streaming live music from a jazz club as I type this.


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 Post subject: Interesting Email From Bandcamp Re Legal Downloads & Streaming
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 11:07 pm 
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Don't stream, don't download, don't care about any of it.

I have enough music to last a lifetime on CD, DVD and vinyl as well as loads of concerts on cassettes I need to burn to CDs.

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 8:32 pm 
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Bandcamp rules! I pick up more music (CDs, LPs, downloads) than Amazon these days. Love getting to hear an entire album before purchasing instead of 30 second sound-clips on most sites. And it's great to connect to artists
who often include freebies with orders (not that that;s needed but is a nice plus).


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 Post subject: Interesting Email From Bandcamp Re Legal Downloads & Streaming
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 8:47 pm 
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Lawrence Talbot wrote:
Bandcamp rules! I pick up more music (CDs, LPs, downloads) than Amazon these days. Love getting to hear an entire album before purchasing instead of 30 second sound-clips on most sites. And it's great to connect to artists
who often include freebies with orders (not that that;s needed but is a nice plus).



Agree Lawrence, "The Honey Pot" had a bunch of cool stuff package with my order.

Rick A.

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