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Kid Bailey
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:37 pm |
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It's funny how just a few games can change your thinking. To me, The Mets actually look like they can contend. Their offense can be as good as anyone in the division, and only the Phillies have better starting pitching.I thought the Braves would, but I'm still not confident in Hanson or Jurrjens, and Hudson will also be a question mark. I agree that the Marlins will be tough, and the Nats have a lot of talent, so away you go...
I think Girardi needs a night off. Bard to the Sox bullpen makes sense, especially as there are no closers out there for the getting.
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:33 pm |
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Kid Bailey wrote: Bard to the Sox bullpen makes sense, especially as there are no closers out there for the getting. I agree wholeheartedly. He had two full months last year without giving up a run. He throws 100 mph and has a wicked hook. He was better than Papelbon for much of the year last year. And he was made a closer in the minors because he was a failure as a starter. In a sense, it's just a symptom of the problem, not the whole problem. The Sox have done a horrible job with personnel moves. Why is Lavarnway in the minors and Kelly Shoppach up here. Unlike Shoppach, Lavarnway can hit and throw runners out. And then we have a defensive wiz in Jose Inglesias, but instead we are playing Mike Aviles who has less range than a one-legged octogenarian. And then there's the manager.
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:09 pm |
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Can we cut Pelfrey and his non-guaranteed contract now, please?
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(T)Eddy
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:53 pm |
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Hold yourself together, (T)Eddy----it's only IMWAN
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Watching the imputing crew of this game reminds me of a little ditty that the Mets' predecessors the Brooklyn Dodgers used to play at Ebbets Field:
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(T)Eddy
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:06 pm |
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Hold yourself together, (T)Eddy----it's only IMWAN
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I don't know how good the Mets' bullpen is, But NOW is the time for the Nats to strike!
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Charles
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:15 pm |
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Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine
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At least Smelf can't lose the game.
3 runs in 5 2/3 innings is not bad for him....despite giving up 8 hits and being aided by a bad out call on LaRoche.
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Charles
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:50 pm |
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Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine
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Ike Davis
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_________________ Pittsburgh Penguins - 2008-09 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!
Let's Go Mets!!!!
Happy 40th - Ogden's Nut Gone Flake 5/24/68
Hail Atlantis!!!!
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JohnG
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:58 pm |
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Charles wrote: Ike Davis
0 for 15 Was his last hit the HR he hit to win the game against the Yankees in Port St Lucie a week ago?
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:29 pm |
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The Pope of Pop!
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The O's turn out to be the cure for what ailed the Yankees. Mo nails it down in a non-save situation, Yanks win 6-2.
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:31 pm |
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TS Garp
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:33 pm |
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TS Garp
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:48 pm |
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Bigfoot
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It looks like 2012 will be the year of the blown save.
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:05 pm |
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Red Sox score three runs in the top of the ninth to beat Toronto 4-2, earning their first win of the season (finally). Big Papi was caught stealing second base Word around the organization was, had Boston lost again, that the front office was considering re-instituting drinking in the clubhouse 
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:08 pm |
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TS Garp wrote: It looks like 2012 will be the year of the blown save. Also as the year that many star pitchers got off to a rough start. Sabathia, Josh Beckett, Lincecum and several others were pounded in their first start
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:55 pm |
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I HATE MP3'S
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Mariners blow a 4 run lead & get blown out. Oh well, at least we play Oakland a lot.
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:31 am |
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The Yankees are installing chaise lounges in the dugout so their aged stars can get plenty of rest. 
_________________ "Every day a little sadder,
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Someone get me a ladder."
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“You can't have everything. Where would you put it?”—Steven Wright
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:32 am |
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Kudos to Daniel Murphy with the big hit last night. A razz to the Mets 3B coach who's gonna get someone killed.
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:57 am |
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:58 am |
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My son texted me that ESPN is wall to wall Ozzie. I find it hard to believe that ESPN would ever over sensationalize anything, or that Ozzie Guillen would ever say anything stupid.
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:34 pm |
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MIAMI -- The Miami Marlins have suspended manager Ozzie Guillen for five games for comments he made in which he expressed admiration for Cuban leader Fidel Castro.
"The Marlins acknowledge the seriousness of the comments attributed to Guillen," the team said in a prepared statement announcing the move. "The pain and suffering caused by Fidel Castro cannot be minimized especially in a community filled with victims of the dictatorship."
Marlins bench coach Joey Cora will be the interim manager during the suspension.
Speaking first in Spanish on Tuesday morning in Miami, Guillen apologized to the city, its Cuban-American community and all Latin Americans for the comments, which were published on Time magazine's website last week.
"I feel like I betrayed my Latin community," Guillen said, according to ESPN's translation of his comments in Spanish. "I am here to say I am sorry with my heart in my hands and I want to say I'm sorry to all those people who are hurt indirectly or directly."
"I'm sorry for what I said and for putting people in a position they don't need to be in. And for all the Cuban families, I'm sorry," he said, according to ESPN's translation. "I hope that when I get out of here, they will understand who Ozzie Guillen is. How I feel for them. And how I feel about the Fidel Castro dictatorship. I'm here to face you, person to person. It's going to be a very difficult time for me."
Major League Baseball was reviewing the situation, a source told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney.
Guillen told Time magazine for an article published last week that he loves Castro and respects him for staying in power for so long.
On Tuesday, Guillen said repeatedly that he does not admire Castro. He said when the comments were made, he was talking about how he was surprised Castro was able to remain in power so long, given the number of people he had hurt since taking power.
"The interpretation didn't come out as I wanted," Guillen said in Spanish, according to ESPN's translation. "I was thinking in Spanish and I said the wrong thing in English."
Asked how the statement "I love Fidel Castro" could be misconstrued, Guillen once again said he was talking about how surprised he was that Castrol had been able to stay in power for so long.
"Everybody in the world hates Fidel Castro, including myself," Guillen said. "I was surprised that he's still in power. That's what I was trying to say to the journalist. And that's the first thing that came out of my mouth. I admit it. It was the wrong words."
A Cuban-American advocacy group in Miami, Vigilia Mambisa, has said it would boycott and demonstrate
After the comment was published, the Marlins subsequently issued a statement clarifying that the organization has no respect for Castro, calling him "a brutal dictator who has caused unthinkable pain for more than 50 years."
Tuesday, Guillen said he respected the Marlins' decision to suspend him and was not concerned about the salary he would lose in the process, because repairing his relationship with the Cuban-American community was more important.
"I will do everything to try to make things be better," he said. "I'm willing to do everything in my power, in the Marlins power, to do everything I can to help this community."
Speaking to a packed audience in the media room at Marlins Park, the team's brand-new stadium, Guillen remembered being in the ballpark for Opening Day and what a happy occasion that was. "Now, I'm sitting here a few days later very embarrassed. Very sad," he said.
Marlins president David Samson and president of baseball operations Larry Beinfest were also in attendance. A crowd of protesters gathered outside the stadium to watch on a giant video screen.
"This is the biggest mistake of my life. When you make a mistake this big ... I will learn from this," he said.
Guillen said he was disappointed that he let his players down and asked that the team and the organization not be blamed for his mistake.
"I'll be back after five games. I just hope they do their job. What else can I say? Keep playing and I'm going to try to put this problem behind me," he said.
Guillen will be eligible to return from the suspension on Tuesday, April 17, when the Marlins host the Chicago Cubs.
It's not the first time that Guillen has praised Castro publicly. In a Men's Journal interview in 2008, Guillen was asked to name the toughest man he knows.
"Fidel Castro," he said. "He's a bull---- dictator and everybody's against him, and he still survives, has power. Still has a country behind him. Everywhere he goes they roll out the red carpet. I don't admire his philosophy. I admire him."
Guillen, who is from Venezuela but became a United States citizen in 2006, also praised controversial Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez in 2005. He had appeared on the leader's radio show twice and when asked about it, he said: "Not too many people like the president. I do."
Guillen has since been critical of Chavez. During his first news conference as Marlins manager in September, he bristled at a suggestion he supports Chavez.
"Don't tell my wife that, because she hates that man. She hates him to death," Guillen said. "I supported Chavez? If I was supporting Chavez, do you think I would be manager of the Marlins? I never supported Chavez."
Tuesday, Guillen, who is a U.S. citizen, was asked several times about Chavez. He said he doesn't support Chavez, who sees himself as a protege of Castro, and that he writes for a newspaper in Venezuela that is anti-Chavez. He also said he would not vote for Chavez.
"This is the last time this person talks about politics," he said, according to ESPN's translation.
Guillen's outspoken manner has gotten him into trouble in the past. In 2006, he was fined and ordered to undergo sensitivity training by Major League Baseball after using a gay slur during a rant aimed at a Chicago-area newspaper columnist.
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:48 pm |
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Thank goodness he didn't mention how much he adored Osama Bin Laden.
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Post subject: Baseball Chatter 2012 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:02 pm |
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He's saving that for September.
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