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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:50 am 
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Holy Crap, did the Rams beat up the Redskins for the number two pick! Three ones and a two!?! This reminds me of the way Dallas made out with the Walker trade.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:55 am 
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I would call it highway robbery. Being in the NFC West, I would say the Rams won't be the automatic last place team much longer.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:56 am 
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I really hope the Seahawks go after Flynn rather than Manning. I'm concerned that Manning's age, health & salary are a very dangerous combination.

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I agree Geff. Though it sounds like Manning comes as part of a package deal with Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne. That's some instant offense!

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I've heard the Wayne speculation. This is the first I'd heard of Clark tagging along, though!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:04 am 
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Can't remember where I saw it, but I've heard that the Hawks might be able to bring in Manning's center, Jeff Saturday, as well.

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Can we also bring in his gardener?

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It's a shame to see a once-great team dismantled all at once. Andrew Luck must be thinking WTF? right about now.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:46 am 
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I think that Manning will sign an incentive laden contract and the actual salary wont't be that large.

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I have heard John Clayton say that will not be the case. He expects Manning to sign for about whatever Drew Brees does.

IMO, Clayton is the most knowledgeable NFL reporter out there.

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I wouldn't sign him for that. He has to prove himself healthy.

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I agree with Marcus. He's coming off a serious neck injury. But, as we saw with the trade the Redskins made yesterday, teams do stupid things.

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If I remember correctly, I believe Clayton that that Manning won't sign without a high guarantee, & also won't have too (see Smiff's stupid team comment, he's right).

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:28 pm 
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Well, I guess our hopes (my wife and I) about having Manning in DC is a fantasy at this point. :sigh:


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I'd trade you a 36 yo badly injured Manning for RG3 any day!!

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I don't want to sound like I'm Manning bashing. He is obviously a first ballot hall of famer.

He's also 36, been badly injured (I believe twice), & no one knows what he's got left. He was once a truly great player, but I suspect AT BEST we've got something similar to Brett Farve's last 3 years to look forward to.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:13 pm 
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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
BUT I WANT MY PEYTON MANNING REDSKINS JERSEY, DAMN IT


Manning has supposedly said he will not play in the NFC East as he does not want to face Eli twice a year.

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The Peyton Manning recruiting adventure began with a visit to the Denver Broncos.
Manning met for nearly six hours with Denver on Friday, then left the team's facility without speaking with reporters.

About 48 hours after being released by the Indianapolis Colts, Manning met with another Super Bowl-winning quarterback, Broncos vice president of football operations John Elway, and coach John Fox. The three chatted while taking a tour of the team's practice field and heading to the weight room.

They spent several hours together before the four-time MVP departed.

According to The Denver Post, the Broncos sent a plane to pick up Manning in South Florida, where he has a condo. He had traveled there after an emotional news conference in Indianapolis on Wednesday, when he said goodbye to the team that drafted him No. 1 overall in 1998 and led to the 2007 Super Bowl championship.

As news of Manning's arrival spread -- with reporters and TV helicopters hovering over every inch of the Broncos facility -- a handful of fans started making their way to the training facility.

"Let's do it, Peyton!" one of them yelled through a gate upon spotting the NFL's marquee free agent. Manning glanced over and gave a quick wave.

Across the parking lot, one fan with an Elway jersey, another with a Tim Tebow jersey and a few more with Manning's iconic Colts No. 18 showed up.

"Peyton Manning is a terrific leader. He's phenomenal to watch," said Graham Millar, a lifelong Colts fan who now lives in Aurora, Colo. "You feel like you're watching a psychic. But it's preparation. He knows exactly what to expect from every single player on that field."

Sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen the visit does not make the Broncos the favorite to land the four-time MVP. In fact, other teams are starting to be aggressive in expressing their interest in Manning.

No contract negotiations were expected to occur during the Denver visit, first reported by The Denver Post. Manning did not work out for the Broncos, but wanted to familiarize himself with the team's facilities, organization and geography. He trip is expected to also include a visit to the Arizona Cardinals, sources said.

Meeting with the Chiefs is also a possibility.

"He's one of the greatest players in the history of the league," Chiefs owner Clark Hunt told NBC Sports Network. "He's also an incredible person. We feel really good about the team we have in Kansas City going into the 2012 season, but we'll look for any opportunity to improve and, of course, that includes Peyton Manning."

At least 12 teams reportedly have reached out to Manning's representatives, but Hunt wouldn't characterize the Chiefs' interest.

"I don't think it would be appropriate for me to talk about discussions at this point, but he is somebody that we'll talk to," Hunt told NBC.

Two teams that are now likely out of the running for Manning are the Washington Redskins and New York Jets.

The Redskins agreed to a trade with the Rams in which they'll receive the second overall pick in this year's draft for three first-round draft picks and a second-round pick, a source confirmed to ESPN's Schefter on Friday. Washington is expected to draft the top quarterback available.

The Jets announced a contract extension with quarterback Mark Sanchez on Friday night.

The Redskins still intend to talk with Manning and try to sign him even if it is considered a long shot, a source told Schefter.

The Chiefs, Redskins, Jets, Seattle Seahawks, Miami Dolphins, Cardinals and Broncos were among teams to reach out at first, according to sources.

Sources told ESPN the order in which Manning visits teams will not reflect an order in particular because, as one source said: "There is absolutely no preferred choice at this time. This is typical [Manning] doing his own research because it's a first-time and only-time process from a free-agent vantage point. Physically seeing facilities and the geography of cities that he is not acquainted with is part of his own research."

Manning was released after 14 years and one Super Bowl win in Indianapolis. The Colts were faced with paying a $28 million bonus to a 35-year-old quarterback who has had at least three neck surgeries and missed all of last season.

Sources have said Manning would like to make a decision within a week on where he will play next year.

The Broncos would present an interesting landing spot since the nation was captivated by the exploits of Tebow last season. He came from third on the depth chart in camp to lead the Broncos to the playoffs and an upset of the Steelers, but his throwing mechanics consistently have been questioned.

Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN. Adam Schefter is an ESPN NFL Insider. Information from The Associated Press and ESPNNewYork.com's Rich Cimini was used in this report.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:06 pm 
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I was wondering if Browns fans would be reacting the way most Nats fans did when Prince Fielder signed with the Tigers?
Most Nats fans said "It would have been nice to have him, but it would have been insane for us---or any NL team---to sign
him for that long a deal." This guy---if he were a Nats fan---would not have agreed with that reasoning at all:



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:51 pm 
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Was listening to Clayton this morning (he's based out of Seattle). I had the impression from him that the current front runners in the Manningstakes are Denver, Arizona & Miami in that order. He now seems to think that PM has little interest in Seattle. So it sounds like the big question in Sea is do we make a big play for Flynn, & if so do we beat out Cleveland who also wants him?

Wouldn't it be interesting if AZ got Manning, released Kolb & we got Kolb at a cut rate price since he sucked last year?! (that's just my spec, though JC did say if AZ got PM they'd pretty much have to release Kolb).

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Didn't Cleveland just draft a quarterback in the first round? Colt McCoy's not that bad, is he?

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