Count me as a fan of both classic VH and Van Hagar. Shame me if you will, but 5150 is probably my favorite VH album from start to finish despite the '80s production sheen. Sammy opened up some new frontiers of sound with his vocal range.
An impressive performance, Pete. Cherone certainly did not lack the chops.
Agreed. I saw them in Boston and Cherone rocked the classics (the only reason I went to see them that tour).
During one song, Gary asked the hometown audience, "What do you think of my new band?"
After some applause and cheering, Eddie replied with a grin, "How do you like my new backup singer?"
Ha ha-nice!
I guess the demos of the 2nd album with Cherone will never sneak out.
Gary always said that VH III was Eddie's project and he knew that going in. Gary took a lot of blame for that album, but that was Eddie. Just a terrible record although "Without You" was a great single.
So funny that "Without You" was #1 for 6 weeks (I think) in 1998 at Rock Radio and nobody remembers it now!
_________________ "We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."—College Basketball player Weldon Drew
An impressive performance, Pete. Cherone certainly did not lack the chops.
Agreed. I saw them in Boston and Cherone rocked the classics (the only reason I went to see them that tour).
During one song, Gary asked the hometown audience, "What do you think of my new band?"
After some applause and cheering, Eddie replied with a grin, "How do you like my new backup singer?"
Ha ha-nice!
I guess the demos of the 2nd album with Cherone will never sneak out.
Gary always said that VH III was Eddie's project and he knew that going in. Gary took a lot of blame for that album, but that was Eddie. Just a terrible record although "Without You" was a great single.
So funny that "Without You" was #1 for 6 weeks (I think) in 1998 at Rock Radio and nobody remembers it now!
I always wondered what VH with Cherone would have been like had a strong outside producer (like Ted Templeman or Bruce Fairbairn) taken the reins. I still contend that there wasn't much in the way of creative chemistry between Gary and Eddie, but when I heard they were working on a second album with a producer, I figured we'd see how that scenario would play out. Wasn't meant to be.
But did Gary leave or was he pushed out?
The official story (and no one in VH has contradicted it in 16 years is that Gary left, but I have heard stories that Warner Bros was putting pressure on Eddie to bring back Dave and that Gary may have been ousted.). My guess is that it's probably a little of both.
An impressive performance, Pete. Cherone certainly did not lack the chops.
Agreed. I saw them in Boston and Cherone rocked the classics (the only reason I went to see them that tour).
During one song, Gary asked the hometown audience, "What do you think of my new band?"
After some applause and cheering, Eddie replied with a grin, "How do you like my new backup singer?"
Ha ha-nice!
I guess the demos of the 2nd album with Cherone will never sneak out.
Gary always said that VH III was Eddie's project and he knew that going in. Gary took a lot of blame for that album, but that was Eddie. Just a terrible record although "Without You" was a great single.
So funny that "Without You" was #1 for 6 weeks (I think) in 1998 at Rock Radio and nobody remembers it now!
I always wondered what VH with Cherone would have been like had a strong outside producer (like Ted Templeman or Bruce Fairbairn) taken the reins. I still contend that there wasn't much in the way of creative chemistry between Gary and Eddie, but when I heard they were working on a second album with a producer, I figured we'd see how that scenario would play out. Wasn't meant to be.
But did Gary leave or was he pushed out?
The official story (and no one in VH has contradicted it in 16 years is that Gary left, but I have heard stories that Warner Bros was putting pressure on Eddie to bring back Dave and that Gary may have been ousted.). My guess is that it's probably a little of both.
I think you're right Chris, that Eddie was pressured to bring back DLR.
If I recall, Gary was interviewed on Stern a few years ago and talked quite a bit about what went down.
_________________ "We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."—College Basketball player Weldon Drew
An impressive performance, Pete. Cherone certainly did not lack the chops.
Agreed. I saw them in Boston and Cherone rocked the classics (the only reason I went to see them that tour).
During one song, Gary asked the hometown audience, "What do you think of my new band?"
After some applause and cheering, Eddie replied with a grin, "How do you like my new backup singer?"
Ha ha-nice!
I guess the demos of the 2nd album with Cherone will never sneak out.
Gary always said that VH III was Eddie's project and he knew that going in. Gary took a lot of blame for that album, but that was Eddie. Just a terrible record although "Without You" was a great single.
So funny that "Without You" was #1 for 6 weeks (I think) in 1998 at Rock Radio and nobody remembers it now!
I always wondered what VH with Cherone would have been like had a strong outside producer (like Ted Templeman or Bruce Fairbairn) taken the reins. I still contend that there wasn't much in the way of creative chemistry between Gary and Eddie, but when I heard they were working on a second album with a producer, I figured we'd see how that scenario would play out. Wasn't meant to be.
But did Gary leave or was he pushed out?
The official story (and no one in VH has contradicted it in 16 years is that Gary left, but I have heard stories that Warner Bros was putting pressure on Eddie to bring back Dave and that Gary may have been ousted.). My guess is that it's probably a little of both.
I think you're right Chris, that Eddie was pressured to bring back DLR.
If I recall, Gary was interviewed on Stern a few years ago and talked quite a bit about what went down.
WB was putting pressure on Eddie to bring back Roth. And Gary said at that point, he realized he would always be the singer in someone else's band. Maybe he left because he figured they were eventually going to fire him. Remember Eddie's statement when Gary left about how they'd continue to have a personal and creative relationship? Yeah, that didn't happen.
And what's funnier is that the second reunion in Roth in 2000 didn't take either. It took a tumultuous reunion tour with Sammy and a intervention on Eddie to make the reunion with Roth happen in 2007.
Sammy Hagar Fires Back at David Lee Roth Over Van Halen Setlist
Sammy Hagar has taken to the airwaves to respond to Van Halen frontman David Lee Roth‘s pointed recent criticism of the so-called Van Hagar era.
Specifically, Hagar questioned whether Roth could handle the vocals on a Hagar-sung Van Halen hit like “Right Now,” while introducing a live version of the song by his new band Circle as part of the Sammy Hagar’s Top Rock Countdown broadcast.
“The boys are out on tour — happily doing well, I hope,” Hagar said, “but they’re not playing any Van Hagar songs. My buddy Diamond said it was something about a quality issue. I laughed. I’m cracking up. You know, sometimes the guy says the wackiest things. But there’s a lot of truth in that. A quality issue — you think about that. Think about them with Diamond, singing this next song, it would definitely be a quality issue, OK? [Chuckles.] It would definitely be a quality issue.”
If this is true, then I'm glad I decided not to overpay and go see VH this summer.
Eddie and Alex make it hard to be a Van Halen fan sometimes...
Sammy Hagar Claims Van Halen Are Trying to Prevent Him From Performing Songs They Wrote Together By Jeff Giles June 18, 2015 1:03 PM
Sammy Hagar‘s latest band, the Circle, delivers a hit-studded live show that offers classic cuts from throughout his career — but he claims Alex and Eddie Van Halen would love to prevent him from performing the songs they wrote and recorded together during his stint in Van Halen.
Hagar made his surprising claim during an appearance on Eddie Trunk’s podcast (which you can hear below), after affirming Trunk’s observation that since Van Halen have stopped playing their hit from Hagar’s era, he and Circle bassist Michael Anthony are the only ones keeping the songs in front of audiences.
“I feel obligated, because listen — we sold 40 million, 47 million records, whatever it was together. We had all those Number Ones. Those are great songs,” agrees Hagar. “‘Right Now.’ ‘When It’s Love.’ ‘Finish What Ya Started.’ … These are great songs that need to be played for the people that supported it during the era, and it actually irritates me when those guys try to act like it never happened.”
In fact, Hagar claims his former bandmates have taken things a step further. “Eddie and Alex Van Halen are trying to stop me from even being able to play those songs,” he adds. “They have had attorneys and people say ‘No, he can’t play them.’ Sometimes you need permission to play something, like on TV and stuff, and they say no. They’ll actually fight legally to try and stop me, and I’m going crazy.”
Joking that he had to suppress some violent urges when he heard the news, Hagar promises he isn’t agreeing to the Van Halens’ demands. “I’ve hired an attorney and I’m gonna fight these guys to the end,” he insists. “Those are my songs! I wrote every lyric and every frickin’ melody on every one of those songs, and for those guys to say I can’t sing my own songs … oh my God, I’m going crazy.”
As Trunk quickly points out, the Van Halens wouldn’t have much of a legal leg to stand on if they really did end up in court with Hagar — but Hagar claims this is really more about creating a cumbersome hassle than winning a legal battle. And sometimes it works, as Hagar says it did during his recent appearance on Live from Daryl’s House.
“Daryl wanted to do ‘Why Can’t This Be Love’ and ‘Finish What Ya Started,’ and their attorney said no and put out a cease and desist thing, so the network goes, ‘Well, we don’t have time to get in a lawsuit and find out who’s right or who’s wrong. We just can’t do the songs.’ It’s just stupid and childish.”
On a lighter note, Trunk suggests that Circle drummer Jason Bonham might be able to use his family connection to Led Zeppelin in order to facilitate some sort of project between himself, Hagar, and Zep vets Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones — an idea that Hagar, unsurprisingly, is more than willing to entertain. “I would do it in a second,” he laughs. “Are you kidding me?”
The VH brothers are some real douches. I'm sorry I have to say that, but if what Sammy says is true, then the VH brothers deserve no respect from anyone.
By their line of thinking, if Dave quits (or is fired), he can't play the songs he sang on.
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