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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:04 pm 
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Isn't it about time that Darryl Jones got promoted to an actual Rolling Stone instead of a hired sideman? Allow him to be featured on album covers and take bows with the rest of the band!

That's what I felt from the very beginning. I first saw Daryl in 95 on the Voodoo Lounge tour and was very impressed. But Ronnie was only made a full member after many years, even longer than Daryl, I think.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:11 pm 
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Flanagan then accused Dylan of being stuck in the '80s

Ah, that would explain the photo - which must be easily at least 20 years old.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:41 pm 
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Isn't it about time that Darryl Jones got promoted to an actual Rolling Stone instead of a hired sideman? Allow him to be featured on album covers and take bows with the rest of the band!

That's what I felt from the very beginning. I first saw Daryl in 95 on the Voodoo Lounge tour and was very impressed. But Ronnie was only made a full member after many years, even longer than Daryl, I think.

Wasn't Ron Wood in the group photos from the moment he joined? He's on the cover of Black And Blue:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:52 pm 
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Isn't it about time that Darryl Jones got promoted to an actual Rolling Stone instead of a hired sideman? Allow him to be featured on album covers and take bows with the rest of the band!

It'll never happen. Keef, Mick, Ronnie and Charlie want the pie for themselves. And being that they've been there since the beginning (with the exception of Woodie), I can understand that.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:03 pm 
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Daryl will never be considered a full-time member or Chuck Leavell. They are to me and in actuality, but just like R.E.M. have no actual drummer and Dave Matthews Band continue to have Butch Taylor (is that his name?) as keyboardist on every album and tour but not as a full member and how Queen + Paul Rodgers have no bass player even though it's Danny Miranda, and The Who have had Zak Starkey as drummer for 13 years now-there are so many examples of bands replacing departed members who they have to replace but keeping them on low salary as a sideman.
It's lame and it's cheap, and it's stupid. So let me get this straight-according to the Stones, you need a bass player but not as an actual member? That's how the game is played, and really, if you're Daryl of course you don't care. I'd imagine he still gets paid well-just not as a regular bassist would!

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Porcupine Tree also have a guitarist John Wesley who is not officially a member of the group but plays on everything they do (almost).


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:57 am 
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Wasn't Ron Wood in the group photos from the moment he joined? He's on the cover of Black And Blue:

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Yes, but he was only on the payroll for many, many years. He didn't have an equal share in the Rolling Stones empire.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:54 am 
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Even a cursory glance through the original interview makes it clear that Dylan was joking, and retracted the comment a few lines later anyway. Ho hum.

That said, I actually agree with his original comment more than I suspect he does, although I don't think Wyman's departure had much to do with it. I quite enjoyed A BIGGER BANG for what it was, but I don't think it's too unfair to say that the Stones are finished as anything more than a - very effective - nostalgia act, and have been for years). They're certainly not creatively-active and engaged in anything like the way Dylan is - for a guy pushing 70, he's still operating impressively-close to his best form, and I'm definitely far more excited by the prospect of TOGETHER THROUGH LIFE than I would be for yet another Stones-play-their-greatest-hits-just-the-way-you-want-to-hear-them tour.

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Wasn't Ron Wood in the group photos from the moment he joined? He's on the cover of Black And Blue:

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Yes, but he was only on the payroll for many, many years. He didn't have an equal share in the Rolling Stones empire.

Interesting. I didn't know that. Was Mick Taylor made a full partner for the albums he played on?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:38 am 
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Linda wrote:
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Wasn't Ron Wood in the group photos from the moment he joined? He's on the cover of Black And Blue:

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Yes, but he was only on the payroll for many, many years. He didn't have an equal share in the Rolling Stones empire.

Interesting. I didn't know that. Was Mick Taylor made a full partner for the albums he played on?

Not to my knowledge.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:54 pm 
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One thing Bob's right about, though - Daryl is a much more funk-styled bassist than Bill was. I hold up the version of "The Last Time" from No Security as Exhibit A.

I LOVE that version of that song.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:05 pm 
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Linda,
As marvelous a guitar player as Mick Taylor was, he was essentially pushed into the background as well. One of the reasons he left the band, among others, was that he didn't get credit on some songs that got the Jagger/Richards credit. Although I can't recall Keith's exact words that he used, he once said of Taylor that he was a brilliant guitar player, but that's all he was. He heavily implied that he was nothing beyond that in context of the internal power structure of the band.


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All artists must evolve and change. Wasn't it's Bill's choice to leave? Some folks thought he stopped being Bob Dylan when he went electric. If artists refuse to change they become an oldies band...

I still like the Stones Mick Taylor better than the Ron Woods edition but they are still the Stones.. (The Brian Jones band was my favorite but that would be a hard one to reform...)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:44 am 
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I like all three eras of Rolling Stones. They are my second favorite UK rock band.

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I like all three eras of Rolling Stones. They are my second favorite UK rock band.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:05 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:12 am 
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Jimbo wrote:
Isn't it about time that Darryl Jones got promoted to an actual Rolling Stone instead of a hired sideman? Allow him to be featured on album covers and take bows with the rest of the band!

If he started asking for that, he'd be canned in a minute. It's all about the money on this stuff.


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:23 am 
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The Rolling Stones' Keith Richards: 'I hated my name'

The Rolling Stones' Keith Richards has revealed that he used to hate his name – because he thought it was not cool enough.

The guitarist was speaking in BBC4 documentary 'Blues Britannia: Can Blue Men Sing The Whites?', set to air tonight (May 1) at 9pm (BST).

"It made me sick – my name's Keith Richards," he said. "It hardly makes it against Howlin' Wolf or Muddy Waters, does it?

"On my first guitar I had Boy Blue written – just pathetic. But that was as good as I got at the time."

http://www.nme.com/news/the-rolling-stones/44393

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:06 pm 
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The name doesn't really matter. There are lots of average, bland names in popular music. What matters is the music itself and the personality of the artist. Keith Richards is considered cool by many people 'cause of who he is and for his songwriting and playing abilties.. His name could be Wally Nerdo and people would still like him. :ohyes:

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Keith Richards is a cool name, but I think he's right in saying it's not a cool name for a bluesman.Of course, Keith could have, if he wanted to, have made up a name as good as Muddy Waters or Howlin' Wolf or Bo Diddley.
How about Willie Weevil, or Lucky London, or Blind Charlie Chess? ( :ohno: )

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Rolling Stones' Mick Jagger in bid to save cinema

The Rolling Stones’ Mick Jagger has backed a campaign to re-open the Walthamstow EMD cinema in London – where his band played in the 1960s.

The derelict venue was bought in 2003 by the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God – although planning permission to develop it has been refused, reports BBC News.

Now Jagger, who played at the venue in 1964 when it was known as the Granada, has voiced his support for a campaign to allow it to be opened again.

"Cinemas and live venues like the Granada where the Stones played in the early days, learning our craft on the way, are the lifeblood of our cultural history," he said.

He added: "They helped launched British popular music on to a world stage and should continue to function as places of entertainment and enjoyment.

"It's heartbreaking to hear about such a beautiful, important historical building and centre of entertainment being lost to the local community. I fully support the campaign to keep it open and provide film, music and the arts for generations to come."

A Facebook group where supporters of the campaign can sign up to has been set up on the social networking site.

http://www.nme.com/news/the-rolling-stones/45157

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http://www.uncut.co.uk/news/uncut/news/13335

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RONNIE WOOD AS A VAMPIRE PAINTING UP FOR AUCTION

A painting of the Rolling Stone's Ronnie Wood, depicting him as a vampire, is being auctioned for charity from today (July 14).

The portrait of the star, by his wife Jo Wood's brother and artist, Paul Karslake, was commissioned by TV channel FX to help launch the new series of hit US drama True Blood.

Kerslake has previously painted another Stone, creating the iconic image of Keith Richards as a pirate, that was used 12 years later inspiring the Jack Sparrow character in Pirates of the Caribbean.

Karslake has commented on his new work, explaining, “Ron’s a vampire, all those Rolling Stones guys are. They stay up all night and sleep all day.”

He adds:“I sat down to watch it [True Blood] and one of the characters, Vampire Bill, straight away reminded me of Ronnie. Once that happened I couldn’t get the image out of my head.”

Fans have the chance to buy this original work of art on ebay here. With bids currently at £2,050 (13.07.09 11:30am), all money made will be donated to various charities including Give Blood.

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