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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:41 am |
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For some reason I thought the story in Dylan's song was much older, around the turn of the century. From the NYTimes: Quote: January 10, 2009 W. D. Zantzinger, Subject of Dylan Song, Dies at 69 By DOUGLAS MARTIN William Devereux Zantzinger, whose six-month sentence in the fatal caning of a black barmaid named Hattie Carroll at a Baltimore charity ball moved Bob Dylan to write a dramatic, almost journalistic song in 1963 that became a classic of modern American folk music, died on Jan. 3. He was 69.
His death was confirmed by an employee of the Brinsfield-Echols Funeral Home, who said Mr. Zantzinger’s family had prohibited the release of more details.
Mr. Dylan took some liberties with the truth in the song, “The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll,” though there is disagreement over just how many. He recorded it in 1964 for the Columbia album “The Times They Are A-Changin’,” for some reason dropping the letter “t” from Mr. Zantzinger’s name. It begins:
William Zanzinger killed poor Hattie Carroll
With a cane he twirled around his diamond ring finger
At a Baltimore hotel society gath’rin’.
The incident occurred on Feb. 8, 1963. Mr. Zantzinger, a 24-year-old Maryland tobacco farmer, and his wife, Jane, had stopped with friends at a restaurant on their way to Baltimore’s annual Spinsters’ Ball, a white-tie affair.
Mr. Zantzinger was wearing a top hat and carrying a toy cane he had picked up at a farm fair. At the restaurant, he became disorderly, hitting employees with the cane, then left with his group after they were refused more drinks.
The party moved on to the ball, at the Emerson Hotel. A recapitulation of the evening in The Washington Post Magazine in 1991 said Mr. Zantzinger had entered bellowing: “I just flew in from Texas! Gimme a drink!”
As the evening progressed, he hit several hotel employees with the cane and used racial epithets. Time magazine said he pushed his wife to the floor. He later strode to the bar and ordered a drink from Mrs. Carroll, 51. But she was too slow, he said, and began criticizing her. Then he repeatedly struck her with the cane. Fleeing to the kitchen, she told co-workers that she felt “deathly ill.” An ambulance was called.
Mr. Zantzinger was charged with disorderly conduct and released on $600 bail. But on the morning of Feb. 9, Mrs. Carroll died of a stroke. Now Mr. Zantzinger was charged with murder.
In the trial, Mr. Zantzinger testified that he could not remember hitting anyone. His lawyers said Mrs. Carroll’s stroke could have been caused by the hypertension she was known to have. A three-judge court agreed that the caning alone could not have caused the death and reduced the charge to manslaughter.
Mr. Zantzinger was convicted in June, and in August he was sentenced to six months in prison.
On Aug. 29, The New York Times published a dispatch by United Press International, reporting on the sentencing. A friend of Mr. Dylan showed the singer the article. Some accounts say he wrote the song at an all-night coffee shop on Seventh Avenue in Manhattan, others that he wrote it at the singer Joan Baez’s house in Carmel, Calif.
The literary critic Christopher B. Ricks wrote a chapter about the song in his book, “Dylan’s Visions of Sin” (2004), praising Mr. Dylan’s “exact control of each word.”
Clinton Heylin, in his book “Bob Dylan: Behind the Shades Revisited” (2001), countered that the song “verges on the libelous” because of “its tenuous grasp of the facts of the case.” One criticism was that Mr. Zantzinger’s “high office relations,” as Mr. Dylan called them, were overstated: his father had been a one-term state legislator and a member of the Maryland planning commission.
The song did not mention that Mrs. Carroll was black, although listeners made that correct assumption. It also did not refer to the reduced charge of manslaughter, only the six-month sentence.
One error of fact in the song was that Mrs. Carroll had 10 children; she had 11. Critics suggested that 11 did not fit the meter.
Time magazine called Mr. Zantzinger “a rural aristocrat,” who enjoyed fox-hunting. He attended Sidwell Friends School in Washington and the University of Maryland. The magazine Mother Jones reported in 2004 that he had worked alongside his farm employees, including blacks.
After prison, Mr. Zantzinger left the farm and went into real estate. He sold antiques, became an auctioneer and owned a night club.
In 1991, The Maryland Independent disclosed that Mr. Zantzinger had been collecting rent from black families living in shanties that he no longer owned; Charles County, Md., had foreclosed on them for unpaid taxes. The shanties lacked running water, toilets or outhouses. Not only had Mr. Zantzinger collected rent for properties he did not own, he also went to court to demand past-due rent, and won.
He pleaded guilty to 50 misdemeanor counts of deceptive trade practices, paid $62,000 in penalties and, under an 18-month sentence, spent only nights in jail.
Information on Mr. Zantzinger’s survivors was unavailable. Though he long refused interviews, he did speak to the author Howard Sounes for his book “Down the Highway: The Life of Bob Dylan” (2001) , telling him of his scorn for Mr. Dylan.
“I should have sued him and put him in jail,” he said.
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:24 am |
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I have no fear of this machine
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Bob Dylan to Sing With Will.I.Am for Pepsi?A man's gotta pay for all that mustache wax somehowhttp://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/n ... -for-pepsiHe may have one of the strongest artistic legacies in pop-music history, but Bob Dylan is no stranger to appearing in commercials or cosigning dubious dreadlocked rappers. Still, this is pretty gross: Come Sunday night, we may be confronted with the image of Bob Dylan singing about Pepsi alongside Will.I.Am in a Super Bowl commercial. He has to be fucking with us, right? Right? Billboard reports that Pepsi has bought two to three minutes of commercial time during this Sunday's Super Bowl, and one of the ads they're considering showing will feature Dylan and Will.I.Am singing a song written specifically for Pepsi. Really. As in: Together. And Pepsi may also sell the song on iTunes, just in case you needed a digital reminder that you really did just see Bob Dylan singing about Pepsi on TV. Pepsi hates your parents. According to Billboard, another ad that might show up during the Super Bowl is a Gatorade commercial featuring Lil Wayne talking about the letter G, which actually doesn't seem that out of character at all for Wayne. But if Pepsi had both Dylan and Wayne at their disposal, why didn't they just put the two of them in an ad together? That wouldn't have necessarily made too much sense either, but it would've at least chipped away a bit at the aura of all-consuming lameness surrounding this whole enterprise.
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:09 pm |
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From the Liverpool Daily Post http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liv ... -23609203/Quote: Bob Dylan turns tourist as he visits John Lennon’s Liverpool home May 13 2009 by Gary Stewart, Liverpool Daily Post BOB DYLAN popped into John Lennon’s childhood home while he was in the city to play a gig earlier this month.
The living legend got on a tour bus by himself and went to the house where the Beatle grew up, now a National Trust property, in Menlove Road, Woolton.
Dylan waited patiently while a guide went through his routine before declaring he loved Lennon’s bedroom, where he wrote his earliest songs.
He also said the kitchen reminded him of his own childhood.
A spokeswoman for The National Trust said: “We’re just delighted that he came, a musician of his stature, and it’s really cool he came on the bus by himself.”
Dylan famously gave The Beatles their first taste of marijuana in New York in 1964.
Earlier this month, Dylan expressed an interest in collaborating with Sir Paul MCartney.
He said: “That would be exciting, to do something with Paul.”
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 12:13 am |
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Dylan must be on some sort of pilgrimage. Earlier in the year I read an article about him visiting Neil Young's childhood home.
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 1:25 am |
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Maybe he's going to start a "Never Ending Tour" of visting people's homes 
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 8:45 am |
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I'm pretty sure it's Menlove Ave., not Rd. You just can't trust the press.  
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:33 am |
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Dylan is really doing tours of places Fraxon has visited.
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:19 pm |
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You're Bob Dylan? NJ police want to see some ID
Rock legend Bob Dylan was treated like a complete unknown by police in New Jersey when a resident called to report someone wandering around the neighborhood.
Dylan was about a two-hour drive south of New York City in Long Branch on July 23 as part of a tour with Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp that was to play at a baseball stadium.
Long Branch business administrator Howard Woolley says a 24-year-old police officer apparently was unaware of who Dylan is and asked him for identification.
The singer of such classics as "Like a Rolling Stone" wasn't carrying any, so police took him back to his hotel, where tour staff vouched for him. No charges were filed.
How did it feel? A Dylan publicist hasn't returned a telephone call seeking comment.
Associated Press, August 14, 2009
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:25 pm |
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Rick A wrote: You're Bob Dylan? NJ police want to see some ID
Rock legend Bob Dylan was treated like a complete unknown by police in New Jersey when a resident called to report someone wandering around the neighborhood.
Dylan was about a two-hour drive south of New York City in Long Branch on July 23 as part of a tour with Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp that was to play at a baseball stadium.
Long Branch business administrator Howard Woolley says a 24-year-old police officer apparently was unaware of who Dylan is and asked him for identification.
The singer of such classics as "Like a Rolling Stone" wasn't carrying any, so police took him back to his hotel, where tour staff vouched for him. No charges were filed.
How did it feel? A Dylan publicist hasn't returned a telephone call seeking comment.
Associated Press, August 14, 2009 Guess they thought he was just some neighborhood bully! 
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:18 am |
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He got tangled up in blue. 
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:29 am |
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When they asked him who he was, he probably sounded a mite incoherent, so you can see the officer's side in this...
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:36 am |
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I'm just wondering if his I.D. says he's "Bob Dylan" or "Robert Allen Zimmerman".
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:48 pm |
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He was hanging out with Willie Nelson that week so maybe his mind was a bit altered.
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:59 pm |
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My sister-in-law lives in Long Branch since earlier this year. We visited in July. I wandered around a bit - no one called the cops on me.
My question is - what am I doing wrong?
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:47 pm |
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:45 pm |
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Something is happening here, but you don't know who it is
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:40 pm |
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. . . "So, Mr. Zimmerman, your I.D. doesn't say BOB DYLAN. Are you being a wise guy"?
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:24 am |
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Guess he don't believe in Zimmerman.
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:06 am |
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Quote: Bob Dylan to voice sat nav?
Bob Dylan has suggested he could be the a voice for an in car satellite navigation system.
The legend revealed that he has had offers from sat nav firms during his radio show, Theme Time Radio Hour.
"I am talking to a couple of car companies about being the voice of their GPS system. I think it would be good if you are looking for directions and hear my voice saying something like, 'Left at the next street, no a right. You know what? Just go straight'," he explained.
"I probably shouldn't do it, because whichever way I go I always end up at one place: Lonely Avenue." http://www.nme.com/news/bob-dylan/46897
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:37 pm |
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Quote: Bob Dylan's Brazilian art exhibition opens in Denmark
A new exhibition of Bob Dylan's visual art has opened in Denmark today (September 3).
The collection of 40 acrylic paintings was created especially for the show at the country's National Gallery in Copenhagen and many have never been seen before.
The work features images sketched on Dylan's South American tours, focusing on Brazil.
"I chose Brazil as a subject, because I have been there many times and I like the atmosphere," Dylan explained in a statement to accompany the exhibition.
The show runs until the end of January. There is no word yet whether it will tour. http://www.nme.com/news/bob-dylan/52850
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:37 pm |
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Bob Dylan's handwritten lyrics for 'The Times They Are A-Changin'' to be sold at auctionSotheby's expect the sale to make between £128,000 - £193,000 November 30, 2010 http://www.nme.com/news/bob-dylan/54065 A piece of notebook paper that Bob Dylan wrote the lyrics to his 1964 song 'The Times They Are A-Changin'' is set to be sold at auction. The autographed piece, which is written in pencil, also includes five lines of the first verse of Dylan's 'North Country Blues'. The item was originally given to singer-songwriter Kevin Krown, who recorded some of Dylan's earliest songs. The auction is expected to raise between £128,000 - £193,000 when put under the hammer on December 10. For more information, visit Sothebys.com.  
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Post subject: Bob Dylan Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:02 pm |
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Quote: Bob Dylan's 'The Times They Are A-Changin'' lyrics fetch $422k at auction
The original manuscript of the lyrics for Bob Dylan's 'The Times They Are A-Changin'' has fetched almost half a million dollars at auction.
The handwritten notes for the singer-songwriter's 1964 classic went under the hammer at Sotheby's in New York, where hedge fund manager Adam Sender placed the winning bid at $422,500 (£267,400), reports BBC News.
Written on notepaper, the script contains no musical notation and had belonged to singer-songwriter Kevin Krown, a friend of Dylan.
Sotherby's had expected the manuscript to fetch between £128,000 and £193,000. http://www.nme.com/news/bob-dylan/54222
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