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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:58 am 
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Warhol Museum discovers rare master tracks of Velvet Underground debut

NOV 10, 2022 6:09 AM
You never know what you’ll find when you dig through the Warhol archives.

The Andy Warhol Museum announced Wednesday that it had discovered and digitized rare master tapes of the Velvet Underground’s seminal 1967 debut album “The Velvet Underground & Nico” from Verve Records.

The monophonic reel-to-reel ¼-inch tapes feature alternate versions and mixes of songs later issued on the 1967 release.

“You’re hearing the album as the band originally intended,” Matt Gray, manager of archives at The Warhol, said in a statement. “The track listing alone is a retelling of the album. The quality of sound is remarkable; it gives you a new perspective.”

Warhol began his relationship in late 1965 with the Lou Reed-led band, which became part of his multi-sensory productions “Up-Tight” and “Exploding Plastic Inevitable.”

The Pittsburgh-born artist secured the studio time to record their first album at Scepter Studios in New York City in April 1966. The Velvets signed to MGM/Verse on May 2, 1966, and after some re-mixing and re-recording of the nine tracks, “The Velvet Underground & Nico” was released in March 1967, with Warhol’s iconic peelable banana on the cover.

Warhol obtained the album’s master tracks after the album’s creation and they have remained unheard by the public.

Although the album was not a commercial success, it’s considered to have inspired thousands of bands.

“Although an acetate version, which was made from these master tapes, was released for the 45th anniversary of the album, it is of a different sonic quality, given the generation loss inherent in an analog copy,” according to the museum press release,

The recording will premiere as part of an upcoming exhibition at The Warhol in 2023.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:01 pm 
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I hope this sees a physical release soon.

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 Post subject: "Velvet Underground & Nico" Masters Found
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:27 pm 
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alantig wrote:
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Warhol Museum discovers rare master tracks of Velvet Underground debut

NOV 10, 2022 6:09 AM
You never know what you’ll find when you dig through the Warhol archives.

The Andy Warhol Museum announced Wednesday that it had discovered and digitized rare master tapes of the Velvet Underground’s seminal 1967 debut album “The Velvet Underground & Nico” from Verve Records.

The monophonic reel-to-reel ¼-inch tapes feature alternate versions and mixes of songs later issued on the 1967 release.

“You’re hearing the album as the band originally intended,” Matt Gray, manager of archives at The Warhol, said in a statement. “The track listing alone is a retelling of the album. The quality of sound is remarkable; it gives you a new perspective.”

Warhol began his relationship in late 1965 with the Lou Reed-led band, which became part of his multi-sensory productions “Up-Tight” and “Exploding Plastic Inevitable.”

The Pittsburgh-born artist secured the studio time to record their first album at Scepter Studios in New York City in April 1966. The Velvets signed to MGM/Verse on May 2, 1966, and after some re-mixing and re-recording of the nine tracks, “The Velvet Underground & Nico” was released in March 1967, with Warhol’s iconic peelable banana on the cover.

Warhol obtained the album’s master tracks after the album’s creation and they have remained unheard by the public.

Although the album was not a commercial success, it’s considered to have inspired thousands of bands.

“Although an acetate version, which was made from these master tapes, was released for the 45th anniversary of the album, it is of a different sonic quality, given the generation loss inherent in an analog copy,” according to the museum press release,

The recording will premiere as part of an upcoming exhibition at The Warhol in 2023.


So now a tape > "digitized" > vinyl is better than tape > acetate > vinyl? Hasn't "the industry" been saying just the opposite for the last couple decades?

I also might trust a 45 year old acetate to sound better than a 45 year old tape depending on how each was stored and handled.

Thankfully I am not a fan of this band. If I was, I probably wait for reviews before taking the plunge because lots of this seems like nonsense to try to sell people the same music they already have in their collection.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:38 pm 
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JosephC wrote:
alantig wrote:
https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/music/2022/11/09/warhol-museum-master-tracks-velvet-underground-debut/stories/202211090082

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Warhol Museum discovers rare master tracks of Velvet Underground debut

NOV 10, 2022 6:09 AM
You never know what you’ll find when you dig through the Warhol archives.

The Andy Warhol Museum announced Wednesday that it had discovered and digitized rare master tapes of the Velvet Underground’s seminal 1967 debut album “The Velvet Underground & Nico” from Verve Records.

The monophonic reel-to-reel ¼-inch tapes feature alternate versions and mixes of songs later issued on the 1967 release.

“You’re hearing the album as the band originally intended,” Matt Gray, manager of archives at The Warhol, said in a statement. “The track listing alone is a retelling of the album. The quality of sound is remarkable; it gives you a new perspective.”

Warhol began his relationship in late 1965 with the Lou Reed-led band, which became part of his multi-sensory productions “Up-Tight” and “Exploding Plastic Inevitable.”

The Pittsburgh-born artist secured the studio time to record their first album at Scepter Studios in New York City in April 1966. The Velvets signed to MGM/Verse on May 2, 1966, and after some re-mixing and re-recording of the nine tracks, “The Velvet Underground & Nico” was released in March 1967, with Warhol’s iconic peelable banana on the cover.

Warhol obtained the album’s master tracks after the album’s creation and they have remained unheard by the public.

Although the album was not a commercial success, it’s considered to have inspired thousands of bands.

“Although an acetate version, which was made from these master tapes, was released for the 45th anniversary of the album, it is of a different sonic quality, given the generation loss inherent in an analog copy,” according to the museum press release,

The recording will premiere as part of an upcoming exhibition at The Warhol in 2023.


So now a tape > "digitized" > vinyl is better than tape > acetate > vinyl? Hasn't "the industry" been saying just the opposite for the last couple decades?

I also might trust a 45 year old acetate to sound better than a 45 year old tape depending on how each was stored and handled.

Thankfully I am not a fan of this band. If I was, I probably wait for reviews before taking the plunge because lots of this seems like nonsense to try to sell people the same music they already have in their collection.

The way I read it, this is NOT "the same music (we) already have in (our) collection" as this is what interests me: "The monophonic reel-to-reel ¼-inch tapes feature alternate versions and mixes of songs later issued on the 1967 release".

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:46 am 
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The press release says:

"“Although an acetate version, which was made from these master tapes, was released for the 45th anniversary of the album, it is of a different sonic quality, given the generation loss inherent in an analog copy,” according to the museum press release,"

I took that to mean that these versions have been released on the 45th anniversary edition of the album, it was just sourced from an acetate instead of the 1/4-inch tape. Is this not the case? I'm not a fan of the band, so I don't know for certain what is on that 45th anniversary release. But this part of the press release makes it sound like the alternative versions and mixes are already out there.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:10 pm 
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JosephC wrote:
The press release says:

"“Although an acetate version, which was made from these master tapes, was released for the 45th anniversary of the album, it is of a different sonic quality, given the generation loss inherent in an analog copy,” according to the museum press release,"

I took that to mean that these versions have been released on the 45th anniversary edition of the album, it was just sourced from an acetate instead of the 1/4-inch tape. Is this not the case? I'm not a fan of the band, so I don't know for certain what is on that 45th anniversary release. But this part of the press release makes it sound like the alternative versions and mixes are already out there.

I missed that and think you are right that these were already released sourced from the acetate. The acetate would definitely not sound as good as the tape- acetates were used as a quick copy for the artists and producers to check out their recordings but were not made for longevity and would definitely be a step down from the master tape. They likely would sound worse than something sourced from old vinyl.

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