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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:30 pm 
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Beyond the Colts, there's so many interesting storylines -- Russ Wilson on the Broncos, how competitive that division will be this year, Baker Mayfield on the Panthers, Carson Wentz in DC, Aaron Rodgers without Davante Adams, etc. Should be fun!

The Vikes don't get any love here. Probably because many of you are east coasters and different divisions, etc. But how about them this year? New coach, new offensive system, blah, blah, blah. :ohyes:

Hey, there's 32 teams -- I didn't mention a lot of them! :D

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:15 pm 
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Hey, there's 32 teams -- I didn't mention a lot of them! :D

HAHA!

The Vikes get a bad rap since the Cousins signing and rightfully so. Yet, I have high hopes this season. But then again, I had high hopes with Zimmer and that actually played out somewhat. This new scenario is exciting because of the young coach who's full of fire and has something to prove. The jury is still out on Kirk.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:27 pm 
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Fascinating article in the Athletic called "The QB Betrayal Index".

"The index highlights differences in where these quarterbacks’ teams ranked on offense compared to defense/special teams, using TruMedia’s EPA model. The better a quarterback’s team was on offense and the worse his team was on defense/special teams, the more “betrayed” the quarterback was in the games he started."

Some notable Colts quarterbacks on there -- Matt Ryan at #3 (-41), Andrew Luck at #9 (-26), and Peyton Manning at #19 (-6). Interestingly, Carson Wentz falls into the category where the situation is reversed -- his defenses and special teams have performed better than him (+14).

Check it out if you can (it's behind a paywall): https://theathletic.com/3485034/2022/08 ... bert-romo/

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:06 pm 
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big news today is whether deshaun watson gets to play tonight.

as of about an hour a go it was still up in the air.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:58 pm 
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big news today is whether deshaun watson gets to play tonight.

as of about an hour a go it was still up in the air.


And then?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:24 pm 
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big news today is whether deshaun watson gets to play tonight.

as of about an hour a go it was still up in the air.


And then?


He played got booed and worse. Also, he was terrible.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:02 am 
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ARK wrote:
Renny wrote:
big news today is whether deshaun watson gets to play tonight.

as of about an hour a go it was still up in the air.


And then?


He played got booed and worse. Also, he was terrible.

and the jacksonville fans had a special cheer for him:

you..sick..fuck

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i liked baker mayfield.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:52 am 
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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
Fascinating article in the Athletic called "The QB Betrayal Index".

"The index highlights differences in where these quarterbacks’ teams ranked on offense compared to defense/special teams, using TruMedia’s EPA model. The better a quarterback’s team was on offense and the worse his team was on defense/special teams, the more “betrayed” the quarterback was in the games he started."

Some notable Colts quarterbacks on there -- Matt Ryan at #3 (-41), Andrew Luck at #9 (-26), and Peyton Manning at #19 (-6). Interestingly, Carson Wentz falls into the category where the situation is reversed -- his defenses and special teams have performed better than him (+14).

Check it out if you can (it's behind a paywall): https://theathletic.com/3485034/2022/08 ... bert-romo/

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I was so wrapped up with the Colts players that I didn't take a minute to look at some of the other guys on that list, but there are surprises -- like RG3 at #6, tied with Patrick Mahomes!

There's also some QBs that I didn't expect to see on the "let down by defense and special teams" side -- Ryan FitzMagic, Jameis Winston, Josh McCown, and especially Jimmy Garoppolo. Analysts have been saying Jimmy G has been propped up by great running games and defense, but I guess that second part isn't as accurate!

Then there are some guys I'm surprised weren't let down by defense / special teams given their great traditional metrics - Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson (I'm guessing the Legion of Boom era is what happened), and Josh Allen (especially after that last playoff game, but I guess he was pretty bad his first few years).

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:33 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:08 am 
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Jets dodged a major bullet with Wilson tweaking his knee instead of a full blown ACL tear. We need to find out if he is a keeper this season so they have to have him out there.

Jets may win only 4 games or so this season so another high draft choice will happen.

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TS Garp wrote:
I may be done watching college and pro football.

I’m curious, why?

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