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Larry
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:06 am |
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:40 am |
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My daughter texted me with this news last night. She was quite excited.
I'm happy, but also curious to see what form this takes. My first thought was, "Great! Dexter's back!!" Then I remembered that they killed off Deb, and now I'm wondering what the storyline will be. Does he go back to Miami? Do his actions in Miami follow him to where he is now? Does he ultimately give in to the "Dark Traveller" and start killing in the new place?
I saw some people call for them to pull a Dallas and claim the last season was a dream. I'm hoping they don't do that.
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:48 am |
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So the lumberjack is about to set out on his second spree of ridding the world of other sociopaths like him?
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Larry
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:23 am |
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Whatever they do, I hope that they don't bring Deb back (much as I love her character) and Dexter discovers that that whole thing was a dream. That's the cheapest and laziest form of writing and in effect says to us, "Hey Dexter fans, we lied to you."
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:50 pm |
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Larry wrote: Whatever they do, I hope that they don't bring Deb back (much as I love her character) and Dexter discovers that that whole thing was a dream. That's the cheapest and laziest form of writing and in effect says to us, "Hey Dexter fans, we lied to you." Agreed. I could live with Jennifer Carpenter in another role and Dexter seeing her triggers something in him. But no Deb. Like it or not, they've closed that door. Jilerb wrote: So the lumberjack is about to set out on his second spree of ridding the world of other sociopaths like him? No, no, no. Not sociopaths like him. Just the ones who somehow managed to evade the law and thus went unpunished for their crimes. Oh.... 
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:57 pm |
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Ah, well, yes, sociopaths, or psychopaths, but not quite like him. Though you must admit, Dexter is breaking the law and going unpunished, too. I think he's even made a mistake or two and killed the wrong guy.  Once, at least. Killed a guy though the guy's assistant was the real killer. And he is more a sociopath than a psychopath. I don't think he just confines himself to killing psychos, though, or those who get off on technicalities. I wonder if Dexter would kill another man like Dexter who was a killer of others they felt deserved it? Or if he'd just work with him. Anyway, I tots agree if his sister comes back it would be bogus. He might have other family, though, since his father slept around - maybe more than he knew. Would you still want his imaginary dad in the picture, or do you think he's other that? Might be easier if you didn't need the actor again.
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alantig
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:13 pm |
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Jilerb wrote: Though you must admit, Dexter is breaking the law and going unpunished, too. Thus the "Oh...". Jilerb wrote: Would you still want his imaginary dad in the picture, or do you think he's other that? Might be easier if you didn't need the actor again. I would still want the dad there. That could make for an interesting side story. Does imaginary dad sound supportive in this time where we presume he's not killing and nudge him to kill again? Or does he push back against it?
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:42 pm |
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Another case of TV not leaving well enough alone.
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:52 pm |
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Since the dad is imaginary, it must push back from what Dexter intends to do to make it interesting. I think imaginary dad cheering for him to do what's he's already doing would be silly.
And if he's not killing bad guys, what is the anti-hero going to do instead?
So he's off to do his thing, walk inside daddy's code, but maybe push the envelop.
I suspect his kids should stay out of the picture, but I read once, IIRC, they were little sociopaths themselves.
Bah. Little use speculating at this point. Wait and see.
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:06 pm |
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We watched Dexter on and off in the day, sometimes it was actually on CBS. So we need to go back and start with Season One. I hear the best seasons are 1 thru 4, the rest are not considered as good.
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:39 pm |
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I recently watched them all on Netflix. What did I think? Jilerb wrote: As I understand it, the majority of people were not overly happy with the ending to Dexter. I thought it was O.K. It'd be wrong to expect everyone to live happily ever after, given the nature of the series. And while the abrupt end to it seeing Dexter working in a lumber camp and living a solitary life seems dismal, for the time being it's a good place for him. Given what just happened to his sister, and how he screwed up her life, it makes sense he'd allow Hannah to take care of Harrison (even though she's a killer, too, her motives for killing are often just self defense, so she would never harm Harrison and would love him and raise him just fine. Half a million bucks helps, too.
Mind you, Debra was in large part responsible for her own problems since she always felt she had the right to dig into other people's affairs - or ransack their apartment - or hypocritically couldn't let a murderer go, even though that murderer made her brother happy, while Debra was a murderer herself. Incredible. How one can be a cop after that and think they have the right to take the high ground is amazing.
So where the series ended may even be a good place to launch a sequel, if they ever felt like doing one, so I don't mind that, either.
My main complaint is how incredibly stupid I thought it was to let a psychopath with detailed knowledge of Dexter and his family to continue living and to go through the justice system. It'd be years on death row, and so much can happen, so much can be said, so many ways a psycho could reach out even from prison and hurt Dexter and his family - it just made no sense. Talk about a really bad time to try to wean oneself off of killing murdering scumbags.
Debra, his sister, wow, what a mouth on that one, am I right? It was pretty incredible what she did to save Dexter (murdering her captain) and awful the way she tried to kill them both later, regardless and what would happen to Harrison if both of them were dead. In the end, I guess she came around, but wow, she was pretty slow to do so. But maybe that's what normal people do. Such mental trauma is not so easy to deal with, so if one's actions seem irrational, maybe they just are.
I found it fascinating maybe Dexter wasn't a complete psychopath, or maybe he is a unique variation, but he clearly had feelings. The fact the expert kept telling him his feelings were not real just annoyed me. However different they may be, they were feelings, nevertheless. And Dexter even suggested it was OK if Deb shot him and did what she had to do, but Deb shot her captain instead. It just proves his love was real given his willingness to sacrifice himself. That's not selfish.
Anyway, I felt all 8 seasons were fine - I wouldn't skip any of them if I were you, for example. I wonder if Florida has that big a problem with serial killers, of course, or just murder, but what can we do about that? The long and the short of it - I would recommend the series.  
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:58 pm |
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JohnG wrote: We watched Dexter on and off in the day, sometimes it was actually on CBS. So we need to go back and start with Season One. I hear the best seasons are 1 thru 4, the rest are not considered as good. Seasons 1, 2 and 4 are the best ones.
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:10 pm |
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ted262 wrote: JohnG wrote: We watched Dexter on and off in the day, sometimes it was actually on CBS. So we need to go back and start with Season One. I hear the best seasons are 1 thru 4, the rest are not considered as good. Seasons 1, 2 and 4 are the best ones. I concur. For me, 4 is a perfect 10, 1 is a 9, and 2 is an 8.5. I liked the first Hannah storyline, but I think there was something else about that season that dragged it down. And the season with Julia Stiles (5?) was mostly good.
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:32 am |
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Thinking about Debra, they could bring her back in his mind as was Harry. Harry and Debra in Dexter's mind might be a bit much. They could write out Harry though. I'd trade him for Debra.
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:26 am |
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alantig wrote: ted262 wrote: JohnG wrote: We watched Dexter on and off in the day, sometimes it was actually on CBS. So we need to go back and start with Season One. I hear the best seasons are 1 thru 4, the rest are not considered as good. Seasons 1, 2 and 4 are the best ones. I concur. For me, 4 is a perfect 10, 1 is a 9, and 2 is an 8.5. I liked the first Hannah storyline, but I think there was something else about that season that dragged it down. And the season with Julia Stiles (5?) was mostly good. I really liked the Lumen Pierce character, though many didn't. I also really enjoyed the Hannah character. (But I'm totally with the rating of the earlier seasons being better.) Since Hannah and Harrison walked off into the sunset, so to speak, I wonder if those characters will come back. Harrison will have grown, so any actor would suffice. I would need the same Hannah though! (Yvonne Strahovski) She had the right amount of evil in her.
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:59 am |
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I never liked the Hannah McKay character or the whole storyline around her. Dexter had her on his table and was ready to do justice but because she was a hot blonde, he let her off. Later on when she's arrested by Deb and doesn't say anything about him because she supposedly loves him was ridiculous. Later on when he leaves Harrison, his son with the love of his life, Rita, with her, a murderer, was also ridiculous. The series would have been much better served if she'd been the one to die at the end and not Deb. I watch the entire series about once a year but I usually skip the last two seasons. The show changed in a way that I didn't like after Deb found out about her brother.
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Post subject: Dexter Returns! Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:45 pm |
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Larry wrote: Thinking about Debra, they could bring her back in his mind as was Harry. Harry and Debra in Dexter's mind might be a bit much. They could write out Harry though. I'd trade him for Debra. I like this idea - they could actually use both as the angel/devil yin and yang in Dexter's mind.
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