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 Post subject: Rolling Stone's Top 100 "Metal Albums" Of All Time
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:42 pm 
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I own 13 of the 100.

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Evanescence Fallen
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Of those, I'd only call one a "metal" band in the normal sense, and it's the one I haven't listened to since the 1980s (Def Leppard). :) I guess I'm not what you call a metal fan.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:21 pm 
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40.

So Black Sabbath Paranoid is the top metal album of all time?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:45 pm 
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Not a genre I listen to very much. From the list I have:

99. Evanescence, 'Fallen'
93. White Zombie, 'La Sexorcisto: Devil Music Volume One'
91. Naked City, 'Torture Garden'
90. Body Count, 'Body Count'
80. Ministry, 'Psalm 69: The Way to Succeed and the Way to Suck Eggs'
73. Scorpions, 'Blackout'
71. Living Colour, 'Vivid'
69. Soundgarden, 'Louder Than Love'
68. Marilyn Manson, 'Portrait of an American Family'
65. Faith No More, 'Angel Dust'
54. Helmet, 'Meantime'
52. Def Leppard, 'Pyromania'
47. Slayer, 'South of Heaven'
44. Mötley Crüe, 'Shout at the Devil'
41. Kyuss, 'Blues for the Red Sun'
39. Pantera, 'Far Beyond Driven'
38. Iron Maiden, 'Powerslave'
36. Van Halen, 'Women and Children First'
35. Metallica, 'Kill 'Em All'
34. Black Sabbath, 'Master of Reality'
32. Black Sabbath, 'Sabotage'
31. Slayer, 'Seasons in the Abyss'
30. Korn, 'Korn'
27. System of a Down, 'Toxicity'
26. Alice in Chains, 'Dirt'
25. Metallica, 'Metallica'
24. Rage Against the Machine, 'Rage Against the Machine'
23. Danzig, 'Danzig'
22. Mötley Crüe, 'Too Fast for Love'
21. Metallica, '...And Justice for All'
19. Megadeth, 'Rust in Peace'
18. Tool, 'Ænima'
15. Ozzy Osbourne, 'Diary of a Madman'
14. Black Sabbath, 'Vol. 4'
12. Judas Priest, 'Screaming for Vengeance'
11. Metallica, 'Ride the Lightning'
10. Pantera, 'Vulgar Display of Power'
9. Ozzy Osbourne, 'Blizzard of Ozz'
8. Megadeth, 'Peace Sells ... but Who's Buying?'
7. Motörhead, 'No Remorse'
6. Slayer, 'Reign in Blood'
5. Black Sabbath, 'Black Sabbath'
3. Judas Priest, 'British Steel'
2. Metallica, 'Master of Puppets'
1. Black Sabbath, 'Paranoid'

The only album I love on this list is Faith No More's Angel Dust, one of my favorite albums ever. I should explore this stuff a little more. There are some albums in the 50- 100 range from the list that are by groups I've never even heard of before.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:47 pm 
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Isn't Van Halen really hard rock than metal? And if they are metal, why only that album?

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52. The vast majority in the top half, the more commercially recognizable titles,

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 Post subject: Rolling Stone's Top 100 "Metal Albums" Of All Time
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:31 pm 
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I have 45 of the 100, including 24 of the first 26 albums. (excepting No Remorse and Danzig's first solo album)

There's a couple of dead giveaways that this list was compiled by people who work for Rolling Stone, and not Metal Hammer. The first is how high both British Steel (often recognized as Priest's 4th best studio album behind Sad Wings, Stained Class and Painkiller which isn't there) and Peace Sells (If you swapped it and Rust in Peace you'd be closer for Megadeth) for them says they've been sucked in by the monster hits.

And the other give away is that there's very little European music on here; the lack of Helloween's Keepers, Blind Guardian's big 2 albums, and Nightwish's Oceanborn says they don't listen to power metal at all (Once is there to tick the genre box; not their best choice). It also explains why Operation Mindcrime (generally a top 20 album on these things) is in the low 70's. And aside from Lightning to the Nations, I saw no other NWOBHM albums except Maiden and Pyromania (hah! Screw you Elliot, it was metal)

I can quibble about the order of the top 20 or so but it's matter of taste, not objective fact. For the record, the order when discussing greatest metal albums is almost always Paranoid (for being the first real metal album), Master of Puppets (for being the album that brought thrash to the masses), and Number of the Beast (for being the mostly broadly appealing), and from there, it starts being a matter of taste.

I will say almost all of the usual suspects are on the list, though, so it's not a bad attempt. Certainly a decent overview is people know and like the stuff in the top 20 to go exploring the sub-genres represented by the albums further down.

Oh, and if you're going to include Rising and W&CF, both Led Zeppelin IV and Deep Purple's In Rock should be on there. And even though they specifically excluding them, Kiss's Destroyer and Cooper's Billion Dollar Babies are both embraced by everyone but the kids as metal.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:36 pm 
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Jason Michael wrote:
Not a genre I listen to very much. From the list I have:

<snip the really really cool album list>

The only album I love on this list is Faith No More's Angel Dust, one of my favorite albums ever. I should explore this stuff a little more. There are some albums in the 50- 100 range from the list that are by groups I've never even heard of before.
Angel Dust is a criminally underrated album; everyone was just so pissed it wasn't The Real Thing part II.

And I might suggest caution in spending a lot of money to explore the lower half of the list - the critical albums for the subgenres are all there, but the subgenres (Black, Death, Grindcore) are very diverse, and have very little to do with the "Heavy Metal" represented by the top half. Reign in Blood is the absolute commercial end of the extreme spectrum. So try before you buy, if you're not sure.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:44 pm 
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I have all the Ozzy's, the Ozzy Black Sabbaths, Metallica Black Album, the Scorpions (only 1?? huh??), The Evanescence, The Alice In Chains (that's grunge, not metal imo), The Van Halen, & The Rainbow.

Def Leppard is metal??? huh???

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Glad to see the Scorpion's Blackout made the list, that album surely rocks especially the title tune.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:28 am 
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Everyone owns that Evanescence album. That's hilarious. So do I. It must have sold a bajillion copies.

And it's only OK.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:33 am 
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Steve wrote:
Everyone owns that Evanescence album. That's hilarious. So do I. It must have sold a bajillion copies.

And it's only OK.


Not me.

In fact, when I saw Evanescence on the list I stopped reading, so needless to see I basically didn't see the list.

Rolling Stone is the LAST authority on music let alone Metal.

I wrote for a Metal magazine for years and there's no way the idiots for RS have a clue.

Maybe I'll look at the whole list later but I doubt it.

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Black Sabbath dominated the top 20 or so.

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Invisible Pedestrian wrote:
Steve wrote:
Everyone owns that Evanescence album. That's hilarious. So do I. It must have sold a bajillion copies.

And it's only OK.


Not me.

In fact, when I saw Evanescence on the list I stopped reading, so needless to see I basically didn't see the list.

Rolling Stone is the LAST authority on music let alone Metal.

I wrote for a Metal magazine for years and there's no way the idiots for RS have a clue.

Maybe I'll look at the whole list later but I doubt it.
If you wrote for a metal mag, I'd be interested in your take on the lower half. I'm not familiar with the good versus bad aspects of Black, so would welcome feedback.

No need to review the Evanescence album, though. I don't own it, or feel the need to.

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Only a piece of shit publication like Rolling Stone could come up with a list that bad.


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I'm surprised to see only one Iron Maiden album in that list, only two from Judas Priest and nothing by bands like Accept, Ratt, Anthrax, Blackmore's Rainbow, Dio (I always liked his solo stuff a whole lot), W.A.S.P., or Sepultura.

Seems like their definition of 'metal' is a tad different than my own. :roll:

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Dio's "Holy Diver" was in there, but not "Last In Line". To me, those two albums always go together, like Ozzy's "Blizzard Of Oz" and "Diary Of A Madman".

But as IP said, Rolling Stone as any kind of "authority" on metal? Laughable.

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I own exactly 0 from the list. Pretty obvious I'm not a fan of the genre.


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alantig wrote:
Dio's "Holy Diver" was in there, but not "Last In Line". To me, those two albums always go together, like Ozzy's "Blizzard Of Oz" and "Diary Of A Madman".

But as IP said, Rolling Stone as any kind of "authority" on metal? Laughable.


Gah. Missed that. :facepalm:

Still, I wouldn't necessarily have put Def Leppard in there at all, and there should've been more Iron Maiden and definitely more European stuff in general. There were even a few American bands who should've made it into any top 100 like this (Dokken springs to mind).

I suppose I don't know what kind of thinking goes into list compilation for a magazine, and everyone's different, etc. I can understand the top ten choices, but there are so many bands who've been around for decades who've been left off that list that, to me, it seems incomplete.

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I own exactly 0 from the list. Pretty obvious I'm not a fan of the genre.

But your avatar indicates that you probably own at least one classic "hard rock/metal" album: Jethro Tull's Crest Of A Knave. :lol:

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Is there any way one can just see the list without having to scroll through all those album covers? I seriously doubt I have anything on the list but I was curious.


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Simon wrote:
I'm surprised to see only one Iron Maiden album in that list, only two from Judas Priest and nothing by bands like Accept, Ratt, Anthrax, Blackmore's Rainbow, Dio (I always liked his solo stuff a whole lot), W.A.S.P., or Sepultura.

Seems like their definition of 'metal' is a tad different than my own. :roll:


Anthrax's Among the Living and Rainbow Rising were both on the list.

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