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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:40 pm 
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JohnG wrote:
Not sure what they're trying to prove here. We all know Scholtz is a perfectionist but so are most creative people.


Well, Scholz has a libel lawsuit against the Boston Herald for a column which suggested that tension between himself and Delp was a major factor in Delp's suicide. So the Herald wants to prove that there was indeed significant tension between them and that it contributed to Delp's depression.

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other than scholtz who is in boston these days. i see they're touring this summer.

Their current lead singer is a Delp imitator whom Scholz discovered on myspace. So they're basically a partial tribute band now, just like Journey and Kiss.


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:14 am 
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i was able to catch the original line up on what i guess was the 'dont look back' tour. it was at one of the texxas jams with some other bands. rush may have headlined that year. there's website devoted to the texxas jam's; i'll have to check it to confirm. they were pretty hot at the time. great show.

went and checked the site (linked below) and i guess i saw them twice. rush didnt headline that year but headlined another jam the month before. maybe why i got confused. $15.00 tickets! Rock on! I remember bitching when they went up. Those were the daze!

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:28 am 
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Boston singer Brad Delp installed a hidden camera in his fiancee’s sister’s bedroom – and killed himself nine days after he was caught.

Evidence given in the court case between Boston mainman Tom Scholz and a newspaper revealed how Delp, who committed suicide in 2007, was ashamed and apologetic after his spy device was found.

Events came to light as part of Scholz’s claim that the Boston Herald defamed him by suggesting he was to blame for his bandmate’s death.

Delp was engaged to Pamela Sullivan while her sister Meg Sullivan lived in the singer’s house. His relationship with Meg was described as “platonic”.

But in February 2007 she discovered his battery-powered spy device when it fell from its hiding place. She confronted him about it then went to stay with her boyfriend.

Delp emailed her to apologise, saying: “I feel sick about this, and deservedly so.” He later added: “I want to try and make you understand that I consider myself a decent person who made a dreadful error in judgement. I acted out of some impulse that is still not completely fathomable to me.”

But her boyfriend, Boston sound engineer Todd Winmill, ordered him to tell his fiancee what had happened. “He essentially apologised for half an hour,” said Winmill. “I told him he had to tell Pamela. He didn’t like the thought of having to do that.”

Delp later took his own life by lighting two charcoal grills in his sealed bathroom, leading to his death by carbon monoxide poisoning. In one of four notes he wrote: “I have had bouts of depression and thoughts of suicide since I was a teenager.”

Afterwards the Boston Herald reported he’d been “beaten down by the years of dealing with Tom Scholz,” which the bandleader says amounts to blaming him for the singer’s death. He’d countered that Delp’s depression was caused by “an extremely upsetting and embarrassing incident,” although he’d refused to provide details.

But Meg Sullivan says Delp had told Pamela about the camera, and the couple were dealing with the issue. She tells the Boston Herald: “In the years that followed Brad’s death it has seemed that Tom Scholz has desperately tried to find someone to blame for Brad’s decision to take his life. Quite contrary to what the article implies, Brad’s fear of the repercussions from the event between us was not the reason that he decided to end his life.”

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Boston’s Tom Scholz Suing Former Bandmate For Trademark Infringement
by Dave Lifton
April 20, 2013

Tom Scholz of Boston has filed suit against Barry Goudreau, who played guitar of the band’s first two albums. The guitarist-songwriter-inventor claims that Goudreau is using his former band’s name in a manner that both violates a legally binding agreement they made.

The Boston Globe is reporting that Scholz is suing Goudreau for using such language as “Barry Goudreau Lead Guitarist Rock Legend from the Band Boston” in advertisements promoting his gigs. Scholz feels this amounts to trademark infringement, because it suggests that Goudreau, who left in 1979, is still a member of the band.

According to Scholz, this runs contrary to the deal Goudreau signed upon leaving the band, in which Goudreau received “no interest, right nor title to the name ‘Boston’” in exchange for 20% of the royalties of the first two albums. Goudreau is only allowed to refer to himself as a former member of Boston.

Scholz is seeking to legally bar Goudreau from further suggesting that he is still connected with the band, as well as strip Goudreau of future royalties due to his violation of the agreement.

Last month, a Suffolk Superior Court judge dismissed Scholz’s defamation suit against the Boston Herald for an article stemming from Boston singer Brad Delp’s 2007 suicide. He is also currently involved in ligitation against his former manager for control of Boston’s copyrights.

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I wonder what a lot of lawyers would be doing if there was no rock and roll and its related lawsuits.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:25 am 
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just one man's opinion, but boston might just be the single most overrated band of all time.

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just one man's opinion, but boston might just be the single most overrated band of all time.


Really? Even with their just-about-perfect debut?

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Its funny, Boston has made a fair amount of songs, I like, but I don't consider myself a fan. I think they're very talented but I've never wanted to buy their albums. I love almost all their hits (especially More Than A Feeling) but that's about all.

But I have to disagree they're overrated.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:26 am 
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richman666 wrote:
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just one man's opinion, but boston might just be the single most overrated band of all time.


Really? Even with their just-about-perfect debut?

well, since you aksed......side one maybe, side two...meh.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:30 pm 
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Boston - 10
Don't Look Back - 7
Third Stage - 4 (I should take off even more points for how long it took them to make it.)
Walk On - 5
Corporate America - 1 (...and that's being generous!)

Just my opinion and all on a scale relative to each other.

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I love the first three albums but Walk On is more like Wank On. Never owned Corporate America.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:33 pm 
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I would rank "Third Stage" much higher. Perhaps it's because that album came out in a pivotal year for me and I have emotional connections to several songs. The fact that there were eight years between albums doesn't take away from the fact that it's still a very strong record. I probably like it as much as "Don't Look Back," which would be in the 8/10 range if I did numerical ratings (while the debut is easily 10/10...for me it's perfect, start-to-finish, without a wasted note).

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:55 pm 
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I would rank "Third Stage" much higher. Perhaps it's because that album came out in a pivotal year for me and I have emotional connections to several songs. The fact that there were eight years between albums doesn't take away from the fact that it's still a very strong record. I probably like it as much as "Don't Look Back," which would be in the 8/10 range if I did numerical ratings (while the debut is easily 10/10...for me it's perfect, start-to-finish, without a wasted note).


Obviously every album hits every person differently. I just personally thought that "Third Stage" was weak, mostly because it seemed to just drag on and was almost entirely lacking in any spark or fireworks. That's just me.

As for "Walk On", I actually think it has more fire than "Third Stage" and the vocals sounded close enough to Delp's that they weren't a distraction for me.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:21 pm 
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Walter P wrote:
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I would rank "Third Stage" much higher. Perhaps it's because that album came out in a pivotal year for me and I have emotional connections to several songs. The fact that there were eight years between albums doesn't take away from the fact that it's still a very strong record. I probably like it as much as "Don't Look Back," which would be in the 8/10 range if I did numerical ratings (while the debut is easily 10/10...for me it's perfect, start-to-finish, without a wasted note).


Obviously every album hits every person differently. I just personally thought that "Third Stage" was weak, mostly because it seemed to just drag on and was almost entirely lacking in any spark or fireworks. That's just me.

As for "Walk On", I actually think it has more fire than "Third Stage" and the vocals sounded close enough to Delp's that they weren't a distraction for me.


Yep, it's all about timing. Not sure about "Third Stage" dragging, since it's only about 36 minutes. My three favorite songs are all at the end: "I Think I Like It," "Can't You Say (You Believe In Me)/Still In Love" and "Holyann." Not sure if I would love them now had I never heard the album before, but it takes me back to the year I turned 20. So many good and bad things happened to me that year.

I only heard "Walk On" once, but I'm just not a fan of Fran Cosmo's voice. He's fine but not in the same league as Delp. I felt that way with the Barry Goudreau solo album (where Delp's songs were the highlights), and his voice is the reason I never could fully embrace Orion The Hunter.

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There are 4 or 5 very good tunes on "Corporate America" but the rest doesn't even SOUND like Boston, like the female lead track(s). One can edit down the disc to a good EP at least.

One thing I can say though that "Boston" self-title was a game changer. When their first album came out nothing sounded like it before.
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richman666 wrote:
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just one man's opinion, but boston might just be the single most overrated band of all time.


Really? Even with their just-about-perfect debut?


I can't think of any other band whose first album is so astronomically better than the rest of their catalog as Boston. Scholz really shot his wad on that first album.


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I remember their manager I believe who jokingly said that they were going to retitle and reissue their first album as "Boston Greatest Hits".

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I remember their manager I believe who jokingly said that they were going to retitle and reissue their first album as "Boston Greatest Hits".

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If you add Don't Look Back (the song) as an extra track, it pretty much is "Boston's Greatest Hits."

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Well, going by the charts, "Amanda" spent 2 weeks at #1 in 1986, and "We're Ready" followed it into the Top 10.

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Update from Boston's website.

To Infinity and Beyond...

Many exciting things are moving forward as we head into spring 2013.

Tom is buried in the studio, lovingly coaxing his legacy analogue equipment to bear with him just a little longer while he wraps up the mix of his latest song, "Someday." Although he has listened to it more times than he cares to count, he is still very excited about it, saying, "This final song might be the title track for the new BOSTON studio album; it reminds me of the up tempo rockers I wrote for the debut album over 30 years ago."

With a little more tweaking, then some re-tweaking, then a tad more tweaking, Tom says the new album should be ready for release by mid year ... that would be mid year 2013. "After completing this mix I only need to redo vocals on a couple of the cuts, remix them, and sequence and master the album. After working on this project for over 10 years I can finally see light at the end of the tunnel," he says. Tom plans to start work on the long awaited BOSTON live DVD as soon as the studio album is finished.


Word is Brad Delp will be on some of tracks from the archives that Tom Scholtz has. That get's me very interested.

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Might have found a better choice of words, considering other developments.

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No matter how many times they say these things, if there was ever a band who should always be in the "I'll believe it when I see it" category, (along with Guns N' Roses of course!) it's Boston.

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