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 Post subject: [2011-11-15] The Who "Quadrophenia: Super Deluxe Edition" (Polydor/Universal)
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:41 pm 
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A Quadrophenia documentary will apparently premiere at a UK film festival next month. I'm not finding much more about it than can be read at the link below. Pete and Roger apparently cooperated with the filmmakers, but it doesn't appear to be a Who production. Hopefully this will eventually be available on DVD, and will provide actual substance than stories about what drugs were being used by whom.

(Note that the Keith Moon/Cow Palace story will apparently morph again to where it will be elephant tranquilizers that did Keith in that night--Pete had previously claimed it was monkey tranquilizers. Either way, Tony Fletcher's far more reliable Moon biography states that the drug in question was, in fact, angel dust, While perhaps the only worthwhile use for PCP was as an animal anesthetic, it's unclear how widespread it was used by vererinary purposes, it's not used for that at all anymore. But it makes a better story to say that Keith Moon took gorilla tranquilizers, and an even better story that that to say he took elephant tranquilizers. The bottom line is that I hope that this isn't one of those lurid, "Behind The Music"-style documentaries.)

http://sheffdocfest.com/films/show/5262

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Pete Townshend leads us on a trip back to the early 1970s, and the making of the rock opera Quadrophenia. Featuring Jimmy the Mod, a double schizophrenic, reflecting the personalities of all four Who members, the making of the album was fraught, as Roger Daltry, and other contemporaries vividly testify. A workaholic focused with laser intensity on his vision, Townshend’s stress levels spiked when his producer’s heroin habit became all consuming. A range of fascinating anecdotes help bring to life the album’s subject: the mod era of the early 1960s, where style prevailed over substance. The project’s completion hardly brought the relief it should have, as the band immediately set off on a disastrous American tour, featuring Keith Moon on elephant tranquilizers. Nevertheless, Quadrophenia was critically acclaimed, and Townshend looks back with pride: “What is interesting about this album was it kind of worked,” he says. “We never really ever made a truly great album again.”


I would thought by now that it would have been dinosaur tranquilizers that he'd taken. :D


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 Post subject: [2011-11-15] The Who "Quadrophenia: Super Deluxe Edition" (Polydor/Universal)
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:56 am 
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Rick A wrote:
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I'm Quad crazy. I have the super deluxe set but also have ordered the upcoming Japanese SHM-CD release.


I decided to get the new Japanese SHM-SACD instead of the SHM-CD. Am curious if listening to a hi-res digital transfer of it adds anything (talking about stereo not 5.1 btw). Both use a new transfer of the original mix (rather than the '96 remix that is in the new Deluxe versions) if I recall correctly; not sure if these use the same source or what though.



I just checked my order and I did order the SHM-SACD.



Let us know John how the SHM-SACD sound? Looking forward to hear what you think.

Rick A.



Well I can report on this myself. Grant you, I just played it once this past wekkend and was very disappointed.


The packaging was excellent but the sound was pale compared to the new Quad boxset. I expected to hear better dynamics due to SHM-SACD but to no avail.

I will repeat this playing of the set this weekend to see if I have a different take on it. I hope so or I wasted $50.00. :badidea: (Damm, I knew I should have bought the Odds & Sodds first). :facepalm:

Rick A.


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 Post subject: [2011-11-15] The Who "Quadrophenia: Super Deluxe Edition" (Polydor/Universal)
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:50 am 
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Rick A wrote:
Well I can report on this myself. Grant you, I just played it once this past wekkend and was very disappointed.

The packaging was excellent but the sound was pale compared to the new Quad boxset. I expected to hear better dynamics due to SHM-SACD but to no avail.


You really can't compare the SHM-SACD to the QUAD boxset. The SHM-SACD is the original mix of the album. The Quad boxset uses the 1996 remix. They are 2 very different beasts. You may prefer one over the other but to compare them strictly soundwise doesn't make much sense since they are not the same thing.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:17 pm 
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slipkid wrote:
Rick A wrote:
Well I can report on this myself. Grant you, I just played it once this past wekkend and was very disappointed.

The packaging was excellent but the sound was pale compared to the new Quad boxset. I expected to hear better dynamics due to SHM-SACD but to no avail.


You really can't compare the SHM-SACD to the QUAD boxset. The SHM-SACD is the original mix of the album. The Quad boxset uses the 1996 remix. They are 2 very different beasts. You may prefer one over the other but to compare them strictly soundwise doesn't make much sense since they are not the same thing.


Can't disagree. I love the SHM-SACD, but that's because it's the best reproduction that I've heard, of the original mix. My nostalgia mix when I want to hear the record as I did as a teenager. The box set is a superior (imo) mastering of the remix, which I can enjoy as well.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:21 am 
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billangus wrote:
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Rick A wrote:
Well I can report on this myself. Grant you, I just played it once this past wekkend and was very disappointed.

The packaging was excellent but the sound was pale compared to the new Quad boxset. I expected to hear better dynamics due to SHM-SACD but to no avail.


You really can't compare the SHM-SACD to the QUAD boxset. The SHM-SACD is the original mix of the album. The Quad boxset uses the 1996 remix. They are 2 very different beasts. You may prefer one over the other but to compare them strictly soundwise doesn't make much sense since they are not the same thing.


Can't disagree. I love the SHM-SACD, but that's because it's the best reproduction that I've heard, of the original mix. My nostalgia mix when I want to hear the record as I did as a teenager. The box set is a superior (imo) mastering of the remix, which I can enjoy as well.



Maybe next week I will do a compare to the SHM-SACD to my MFSL Gold. I believe that is the original mix as well. Will see (or hear) as I should say. :wink:

Rick A.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:40 am 
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Rick A wrote:
Maybe next week I will do a compare to the SHM-SACD to my MFSL Gold. I believe that is the original mix as well. Will see (or hear) as I should say. :wink:

Rick A.


Yes, the MSFL is the original mix, that would be a better comparison soundwise. I have both but my ears aren't good enough to tell the difference.


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Actually $73.14 + $10.43 shipping to Maryland but I bit - thanks Linda!


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Love it...another Marylander on the board. I might have to fork over for the Quadrophenia set.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:42 am 
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I completely missed when this occurred, but the "Can You See The Real Me" documentary about Quadrophenia discussed earlier in this thread is now available through iTunes for $9.99. I can find no indication (yet) of any forthcoming physical release.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/quadr ... d578505001


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:47 pm 
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I saw this as a Fathom Event when it was shown a few months back. Quite interesting and definitely something I will pick up when the blu-ray comes out. One really interesting thing though. The documentary ends with Pete Townshend summing up the Quadrophenia album/tour as "We blew it". Apparently the experience back in '73-74 was so disheartening that's why the Who barely touched any of the material on their remaining tours with Keith. Which means that not only has the audience's appreciation of the material increased over time (Yes I was around when it first came out...one critic wrote that it now takes Pete two albums to do what he used to do with one song), but Pete and Roger's as well.


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I saw this tour at MSG in NYC. One of the best concerts I ever attended!
I also have a DVD of the Quad doc made by a friend in Scotland. You'll love it when you see it.

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The doc that was shown on Palladia (and VH1C) didn't touch on it too much, but in Pete's book, he said there were a lot of problems with getting the stage technology right. They rushed the period from the end of the quad mix of the album to the start of the tour, and it apparently didn't develop the way Pete wanted. (Then again, I'm not sure anything has developed the way Pete wanted.)

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