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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 8:37 pm |
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 8:45 pm |
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This might turn out to be the promised box set built around The Miracle, but there are no official details from Universal yet.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 12:05 pm |
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This set might end up on my Christmas list this year.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 9:22 pm |
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Years ago, I had read somewhere that, in addition to the numerous B-sides from this album, there were another ~6 songs from these sessions that never saw the light of day. I guess we'll find out now if that was true or not. Unfortunately, I really don't like this record much at all, so the chances of liking the leftovers probably isn't good. Very likely a pass unless the price is right, but the New of the World box was firmly in Rip-Off City and one that I don't regret missing out on.
Always interested to hear in Queen stuff coming out though, so I hope that people who dug this record will get a lot of enjoyment from this set.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 9:40 pm |
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I don't really care for any Queen album after the Game, and the thought of an 8 disc box expanding on the Miracle sounds unlistenable to me. As JosephC says, even the News of the World box was a ripoff at retail. Shortly after its release Amazon Canada had it on sale for $35 and I picked it up for that price, and that was a fair price for it.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 3:41 am |
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Jason Michael wrote: I don't really care for any Queen album after the Game, and the thought of an 8 disc box expanding on the Miracle sounds unlistenable to me. As JosephC says, even the News of the World box was a ripoff at retail. Shortly after its release Amazon Canada had it on sale for $35 and I picked it up for that price, and that was a fair price for it. I have to agree with you. Some of the soundtrack stuff from Highlander and Flash Gordon was good. Too commercial and over produced ruined some good songs in the 1980s and early 90s
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:45 am |
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Yeah, they had some good songs right to the end, but the albums were never as consistent as the 80s went on, and the production did nothing for them.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 11:07 am |
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I think I'm in a very small minority of Queen fans who rank The Miracle as their best post-'70s album, or at least in a tie with The Game. I love that album so much. Freddie's voice is still in peak shape and Brian May is on fire throughout the album. But it comes down to the consistency of the songs for me, with even the handful of lesser tracks elevated by their musicianship.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 1:00 pm |
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I guess I am with the majority then as 'The Miracle' is one of my least favourite Queen Albums. I never got into it, despite being a big fan at the time it came out.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 1:44 pm |
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 3:38 pm |
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I'm in the majority that thinks Innuendo is a great album. All joking aside, I think Innuendo is a damn fine album, made more so by Freddie knowing it was his last (at the time). Made in Heaven was a disappointment for me. Not bad but not great either. The Game was when I was in junior/senior high. Great album. I think it comes down to those who like the 70s output and hate the 80s stuff, and vice-versa. I like it all.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 3:43 pm |
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I like/love it all as well, Mark. And I do like Innuendo...I just think The Miracle is a stronger and more creative album. Innuendo gets a lot of its reputation from the circumstances surrounding its recording & release, and the fact that it was made to look & sound like a classic '70s Queen album.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 6:15 pm |
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i guess i am in the super minority in my thinking that other that the first 3 songs on the first album and 'a night at the opera', queen was just not a real strong album kind of band. wonderful singles and an occasional deep track, but............................a whole lot of songs i never really got into at all across the catalog.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:10 pm |
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First five albums = Not a bad moment on 'em News of the World and Jazz = A bit of filler creeping in but still very, very good albums The Game = A couple stinkers mixed in but still a good album Hot Space = Complete poop The Works, A Kind of Magic and The Miracle = Mostly filler but a few gems mixed in here and there Innuendo = A return to News of the World/Jazz quality Made In Heaven = Pointless, cash-grab release without much redeeming value
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 6:57 pm |
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I actually love Hot Space, and enjoy side 1 more than side 2 of News of the World (although side 2 does have my favorite Queen song, It's Late). Side 2 loses me a little, but I still love the album more than The Game and far more than anything after it.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:20 pm |
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Linda wrote: This might turn out to be the promised box set built around The Miracle, but there are no official details from Universal yet. And this is exactly what it turned out to be! The release date has been pushed back to November 18th. A big box set and a 2CD version are now up for pre-order at Amazon UK -- links are in the first post, along with a packshot. The audio for a previously unreleased Queen track called "Face It Alone" should be coming tomorrow.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:07 pm |
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This was a huge album in the UK with 5 hit singles, but only did moderate business in the US.
While it has excruciatingly bad songs (was “Party” a Spinal Tap spoof or for real?), there are still loads of great songs.
I’d get the 2 CD version but why have no other albums been done aside from News of the World?
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Press release: Quote: Queen’s ‘The Miracle’ Set To Return In Multi-Disc Collector’s Edition Out on November 18, the eight-disc boxset includes ‘The Miracle Sessions’ – over an hour of previously unreleased studio recordings.
Widely recognized as Queen’s strongest album of the 80’s and one of their most inspired, the 1989 released The Miracle was a global success reaching No. 1 in the UK and several major European markets, even re-establishing the band in the US where it delivered a gold album. Brian May has often cited the title track as his favourite Queen song of all time.
The hugely prolific sessions for The Miracle began in December 1987 and stretched out to March 1989. It was to be one of the most consequential periods in Queen’s history. Fifteen months previously, on August 9, 1986, Queen’s mighty ‘Europe Magic Tour’ had ended on a high, before an estimated audience of more than 160,000 at Knebworth Park in Britain. As the band left the stage that night – toasting the flagship show of their biggest tour to date – they could hardly have foreseen that Knebworth marked a line in the sand. This would be Queen’s final live show with Freddie Mercury and the first in a chain of pivotal moments that would lead towards a lengthy separation for the band.
It would take 15 months and a radical re-structuring of internal band dynamics before Queen regrouped in London’s Townhouse Studios on December 3rd, 1987, to start work on their thirteenth studio album. For the first time, Queen would share songwriting credits equally, regardless of who conceived each song, a consensus of opinion that was to have fertile results. “Splitting the credits was a very important decision for us. We left our egos outside the studio door,” says Brian, “and worked together as a real band – something that wasn’t always the case. I wish we’d done it 15 years before.” Said Roger: “Decisions are made on artistic merit, so ‘Everybody wrote everything’ is the line, rather than ego or anything else getting in the way. We seem to work together better now than we did before. We’re fairly up-and-down characters. We have different tastes in many ways. We used to have lots of arguments in the studio, but this time we decided to share all the songwriting, which I think was very democratic and a good idea.”
This show of unity was elegantly conveyed by band art director Richard Gray’s cover for The Miracle, which depicts Queen’s four faces merged into one. “The cover art represents the unity of the group at the time: a seamless merging of four people becoming one,” May has said. “We were also dealing with Freddie’s deteriorating health and pulling together to support him.”
While Freddie could no longer tour, Queen remained a band of staggering creative resourcefulness. As John Deacon implied, they instead channeled their live chemistry into the studio: “In the first few weeks of recording we did a lot of live material, a lot of songs, some jamming, and ideas came up.”
“Party” and raw rocker “Khashoggi’s Ship” “evolved naturally, straight away,” said Freddie. Inspired by something Anita Dobson would say, and later adopted for anti-apartheid protests, the massive “I Want It All” was – though written before the band went into the studio – a forceful expression of Queen’s concert-honed heavy-rock powers. “We were never able to perform this song live with Freddie,” said May. “It would have become something of a staple core of the Queen show, I’m sure, because it was very participative – designed for the audience to sing along to – very anthemic.”
Says Roger: “Lots of the [Miracle] tracks have first-take stuff in them; we tried to preserve that freshness. We tried to capture all the enthusiasm that we had from playing together as a band.”
Queen’s writing also reflected their personal circumstances. The torn-from-the-headlines drama of “Scandal” was May’s personal swipe at the press intrusion into the bandmembers’ respective personal affairs. Singled out by Deacon for praise, Freddie’s soaring album closer, “Was It All Worth It”, has in retrospect been interpreted as a reflection on the singer’s health.
One further ingredient in the mix was David Richards, who had worked with Queen since his billing as assistant engineer on Live Killers. After further credits on A Kind of Magic and Live Magic, Richards stepped up to co-produce The Miracle, praised by May for his “whizz kid” technical prowess.
The months in the studio birthed 30-plus songs, more than Queen could possibly need for one album. Ten tracks were selected to form the release, with others later appearing as B-sides or solo tracks, or carried over to the Innuendo and Made in Heaven albums. Five hit singles supported the album.
Says Brian: “We had all these bits and pieces of tracks, and some of them were half-finished, some of them were just an idea, and some of them were nearly finished, and it sort of happened on its own really. There are some tracks which you always want to get out and work on, and so they get finished, and there are some tracks which you think, ‘Oh that’s great, but I don’t really know what to do with it at this moment’, so they naturally get left by the wayside.”
Most of these left-over session tracks remained undisturbed in the Queen archives for the past 33 years.
For the Queen hardcore, meanwhile, one of the most highly anticipated elements of the new box set is ‘The Miracle Sessions’ CD featuring original takes, demos, and rough takes of the full album plus six additional previously never before heard tracks including two featuring Brian on vocals.
Tantalizing enough that this hour-plus disc offers the first official airing of such near-mythical songs as “Dog With A Bone”, “I Guess We’re Falling Out”, “You Know You Belong To Me”, and the poignant “Face It Alone”, now available as a single. Add to that, the trove of sunken treasure spanning from original takes and demos to rough cuts that signpost the album The Miracle would become.
But perhaps the real gemstones of ‘The Miracle Sessions’ CD are the spoken segments that bookend the musical takes. As the studio tape keeps rolling in London and Montreux, the four members are caught at their most candid, giving listeners the uncanny fly-on-the wall experience of standing amongst Freddie, Brian, John and Roger as they banter, debate, swap jokes and show both joy and occasional frustration.
With the band arriving at the studio with scarce mapped-out material these sessions found Queen at their most inspired and impulsive, and that atmosphere is mirrored in not just the music but the familial exchanges that punctuate it. As Freddie said: “I think it’s the closest we’ve ever been in terms of actually writing together.”
“Before we all pass out, can I just try this?” Freddie Mercury (“I Want It All”)
“I don’t want to do the fancy bits now…I’ll do them later.” Brian May (“Khashoggi’s Ship”)
Heard for the first time in Queen history, the spoken outtakes from ‘The Miracle Sessions’ invite fans onto the studio floor to experience the band’s unvarnished dynamic, more natural and revealing than any ‘official’ press interview. These unguarded exchanges – by turns mischievous, encouraging, witty, even affectionately waspish – capture the band as they truly were during The Miracle’s late bloom, buzzing with renewed enthusiasm at their return to the studio, and driven by a rare chemistry that still threw up sparks.
Another first for the box set is the reinstatement of “Too Much Love Will Kill You”. The Miracle was originally planned to be an 11-track album, but “Too Much Love” was removed at the last minute due to unresolved publishing issues. Later, Queen’s original version was to emerge on Made in Heaven in 1995, featuring Freddie’s lead vocal. While the CD version of the album remains faithful to the familiar ten-song running order, the vinyl record in this Collector’s Edition marks the first time that ‘Too Much Love Will Kill You’ has been presented as part of the album, in the exact position on Side One it was allocated in 1989.
Elsewhere, The Miracle Collector’s Edition brims with rarities, outtakes, instrumentals, interviews and videos, including the last interview John gave, from the set of the video for the hard-driving single “Breakthru”. The richly packed box set also includes a lavish 76-page hardback book featuring previously unseen photographs, original handwritten fan-club letters from the band, press reviews from the time and extensive liner notes, with recollections from Freddie, John, Roger and Brian on both the making of the album and some of their most iconic videos.
Featuring a plethora of fascinating insights into a hugely pivotal moment in Queen’s storied history, this is The Miracle fans have been waiting for.
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Track list: Quote: CD1 - 2011 Bob Ludwig Master 1 1 Party 2 2 Khashoggi's Ship 3 3 The Miracle 4 4 I Want It All 5 5 The Invisible Man 6 6 Breakthru 7 7 Rain Must Fall 8 8 Scandal 9 9 My Baby Does Me 10 10 Was It All Worth It CD2 - The Miracle Sessions 1 1 Party (Original Take) 2 2 Khashoggi’s Ship (Original Take) 3 3 The Miracle (Original Take With John’s Ending) 4 4 I Want It All (Original Take) 5 5 The Invisible Man (Early Version With Guide Vocal) 6 6 When Love Breaks Up (Demo) 7 7 Breakthru (Real Drums And Bass) 8 8 Rain Must Fall (Demo) 9 9 Scandal (Original Rough Mix) 10 10 My Baby Loves Me 11 11 Was It All Worth It (Original Take) 12 12 You Know You Belong To Me 13 13 I Guess We’re Falling Out (Demo) 14 14 Dog With A Bone 15 15 Water (Demo) 16 16 Face It Alone CD3 - Alternative Miracle 1 1 I Want It All (Single Version) 2 2 Hang On In There [B-Side] 3 3 Breakthru (12” Version) 4 4 Stealin’ [B-Side] 5 5 The Invisible Man (12” Version) 6 6 Hijack My Heart [B-Side] 7 7 Scandal (12” Version) 8 8 My Life Has Been Saved [B-Side] 9 9 Stone Cold Crazy (Live At The Rainbow, London '74) [B-Side] 10 10 My Melancholy Blues (Live At Houston, Texas ’77) [B-Side] 11 11 Chinese Torture [Instrumental] CD4 - Miracu-mentals 1 1 Party (Instrumental) 2 2 Khashoggi's Ship (Backing Track) 3 3 The Miracle (Backing Track) 4 4 I Want It All (Backing Track) 5 5 The Invisible Man (Backing Track) 6 6 Breakthru (Backing Track) 7 7 Rain Must Fall (Backing Track) 8 8 Scandal (Backing Track) 9 9 My Baby Does Me (Backing Track) 10 10 Was It All Worth It (Backing Track) 11 CD5 - The Miracle Interviews 12 1 Queen For An Hour (Trailer) 13 2 Queen For An Hour (Roger, John, Freddie & Brian with Mike Read) 14 3 Queen For An Hour (Trailer Out-takes) 15 4 Rockline (Brian & Roger with Bob Coburn) DVD / BLU-RAY - The Miracle Promo Videos 1 1 I Want It All (Promo Video) 2 2 Breakthru (Promo Video) 3 3 The Invisible Man (Promo Video) 4 4 Scandal (Promo Video) 5 5 The Miracle (Promo Video) 6 6 Was It All Worth It (Promo Video) 7 7 The Making Of The Miracle Videos (Compiled by Rudi Dolezal, this feature contains behind the scenes footage of I Want It All, Scandal, The Miracle and Breakthru videos) 8 8 The Miracle Interviews (Interviews with Roger, Brian and John on the set of the Breakthru film shoot in June 1989, by Gavin Taylor. John has given no further interviews since that day) 9 9 The Making Of The Miracle Album Cover (Filmed in 1989, Queen’s graphic designer Richard Gray talks about and demonstrates how he made the ground-breaking The Miracle album cover) LP - Long Lost Original LP Cut 1 1 Party [Side A] 2 2 Khashoggi's Ship [Side A] 3 3 The Miracle [Side A] 4 4 I Want It All [Side A] 5 5 Too Much Love Will Kill You [Side A] 6 6 The Invisible Man [Side A] 7 7 Breakthru [Side B] 8 8 Rain Must Fall [Side B] 9 9 Scandal [Side B] 10 10 My Baby Does Me [Side B] 11 11 Was It All Worth It [Side B]
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:23 pm |
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Have to give these guys big credit for including putting the 6 unreleased tracks on the 2-CD version. Diehards may need all of this, but for someone like me, having this 2-CD set plus the 2011 2-CD versions of The Miracle and Made In Heaven makes this period of Queen complete enough. That 2 CD version of Made In Heaven includes the original versions of Too Much Love Will Kill You (appears on the vinyl in the big box) and the B-side version of My Life Has Been Saved (appears on CD#3 in the big box) which is why I include it.
Big box set looks a bit underwhelming. 8 disks but- #1 - Blu-ray & DVD repeat. I'm a big Blu-ray guy, but why include one if all the video is in standard definition? #2 - CD with nothing but interviews. #3 - Vinyl LP #4 - Instrumental CD Lots of padding in this one.
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Post subject: [2022-11-18] Queen "The Miracle (Collector's Edition)" 5CD/1BD/1DVD/1LP box set (EMI) Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:46 am |
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really? this? and we still have yet to see/hear on cd the ORIGINAL 12" remixes from Hot Space pathetic!
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