Post subject: [2022-02-04] Prince remasters (NPG/Legacy)
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:37 pm
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Sony is releasing these CDs to replace older pressings which were on other labels. The new CDs supposedly all feature the most recent remasters of each album, but they don't include any bonus tracks.
Post subject: [2022-02-04] Prince remasters (NPG/Legacy)
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:10 am
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Agreed WTF. I appreciate Prince's 'vision' but this was a sore spot. Since there was a release tracked (I believe UK) but was hard to determine if one ordered, obviously it was in response to the customer frustration to the practicableness of that vision). As reported these are not remasters, just re-releases. I only purchased for the possibility of the tracking (I also picked up Dirty Mind as when I extracted I had a 'pin hole' drop in title track - and the version on Hits is not the same). I have not listened yet to determine if there is any possible sound difference, just validated the tracking. The packaging (tray!) is the same, no little blurb re the album. Exact lyric booklet. The only diff is there is the Album title is also added to the spine (think Elton John Masters (sic) on the tray. I believe you are a big fa of this album (I feel it is one of his best) so maybe the tracking will be addressed IF there is every a super deluxe (I believe there is strong rumor that Diamonds and Pearls is next - which is welcome (but not before LoveSexy!), but not sure what they means for a possible future Lovesexy box). Excuse the (incoherent) rambling...
Post subject: [2022-02-04] Prince remasters (NPG/Legacy)
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:38 am
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Re: Lovesexy
I had no idea about the tracking thing problem--I bought it on CD at my local independent store (a new copy, and I doubt I paid more than $10 for it).
Although I now notice the disclaimer that "Songs are in a continuous sequence", the copy I bought has nine individual tracks.
Nothing about it screams "bootleg"...the fine print on the back label says it was "Manufactured in Germany Pressed in Allemagne Record Service Gmbh, Alsdorf", which seems to correspond with this edition https://www.discogs.com/release/3774600-Prince-Lovesexy
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Post subject: [2022-02-04] Prince remasters (NPG/Legacy)
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:52 am
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It wouldn't be a bootleg, the disc was reissued with the the individual tracks, but as you can attest from your copy, there's no way to know which version you have without playing the CD. It's not a big enough issue for me that I'm willing to keep buying copies to hoping to get the one I want. I just hoped the Sony edition would solve the dilemma.
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Post subject: [2022-02-04] Prince remasters (NPG/Legacy)
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:05 am
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Agreed - just hoped current would reflect the European. Since I generally listen to albums straight through not a big issue (just killed me back in the day when I wanted to put Anna Stesia on a mix tape). I have been compulsively digitizing my collection for the past year to the point of marital to point of marital discord (inching toward 70% complete though!!), and I was hoping to resolve the issue with this release. Easy enough to determine the lengths and manage manually, but had hoped to save the time involved. First world problem to be sure (considering all the manual manipulation for the Dead (and other Jam band) live releases to 'fix' for the medleys (a 'la Abbey Road Side 2) that have been one of the more time consuming aspects...
Post subject: [2022-02-04] Prince remasters (NPG/Legacy)
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:38 pm
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Jason Michael wrote:
It wouldn't be a bootleg, the disc was reissued with the the individual tracks, but as you can attest from your copy, there's no way to know which version you have without playing the CD. It's not a big enough issue for me that I'm willing to keep buying copies to hoping to get the one I want. I just hoped the Sony edition would solve the dilemma.
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Agreed - just hoped current would reflect the European. Since I generally listen to albums straight through not a big issue (just killed me back in the day when I wanted to put Anna Stesia on a mix tape). I have been compulsively digitizing my collection for the past year to the point of marital to point of marital discord (inching toward 70% complete though!!), and I was hoping to resolve the issue with this release. Easy enough to determine the lengths and manage manually, but had hoped to save the time involved. First world problem to be sure (considering all the manual manipulation for the Dead (and other Jam band) live releases to 'fix' for the medleys (a 'la Abbey Road Side 2) that have been one of the more time consuming aspects...
Thank you...I crossed paths with a local Prince fanatic last night; I started to ask him about this and as soon as I mentioned "Lovesexy", he interrupted and said "I know exactly what you are about to ask."
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Post subject: [2022-02-04] Prince remasters (NPG/Legacy)
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:31 am
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I have received jewel cases. Only picked up two titles (Dirty Mind and Lovesexy). The artwork is identical to the previous versions (no extra notes, etc.) Crisper images (definitely Dirty Mind). Each has a sticker on packaging, has a quote from Prince re the album and then the typical 'includes the songs...'. I usually toss the sticker, but since there was a quote and nothing too exciting, decided to clip and keep.
Ironically, The Amazon Music Prime version of Lovesexy does have individual tracks.
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:32 pm
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NoURider wrote:
I have received jewel cases. Only picked up two titles (Dirty Mind and Lovesexy). The artwork is identical to the previous versions (no extra notes, etc.) Crisper images (definitely Dirty Mind). Each has a sticker on packaging, has a quote from Prince re the album and then the typical 'includes the songs...'. I usually toss the sticker, but since there was a quote and nothing too exciting, decided to clip and keep.
Ironically, The Amazon Music Prime version of Lovesexy does have individual tracks.
I waited forever for a Sign O the Times remaster and when it finally came out a year or two ago, it was stupid paper packaging. Glad that these are jewel cases. I actually put my discs in my old case.
Post subject: [2022-02-04] Prince remasters (NPG/Legacy)
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:15 pm
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The original mastering of the early Prince CDs have plus-plus-plus sound IMO. If you are on the fence in regards to For You, Prince, Dirty Mind and Controversy, I would grab them now before they get remastered because chances are 99+% that the remasters will be a step down. Only reason to wait at this point is if want to wait for possible bonus tracks down the road, and are willing to give up a bit in the sound quality department.
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:21 am
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Renny wrote:
well, you knew they were coming.....no bonus tracks....damn.
i wonder if 'lovesexy' is tracked?
2 ways I know of to get it tracked:
1. The original German cd, which was around at least through the early '00's. For all I know, it may still be tracked.
2. At one time there was a cue sheet with track splits all over the internet. At one time I had a copy, I just checked & I no longer do. At any rate if you can find the cue shoot by Googling; rip your 1 track Lovesexy to your hard drive in the same folder as the cue sheet. Burn a cdr with IMGburn, & voila!
Here's 2 of them. Either rip the cd that you already own to make this legal as a wav file, or if you rip as flac change the cue sheet references. I didn't create either of these, just found them with Google tonight. Save it as .cue with the same name as the cd rip.
FILE "C:\Program Files\CD Wave\Lovesexy.WAV" WAVE TRACK 01 AUDIO TITLE "Eye No" INDEX 01 00:00:00 TRACK 02 AUDIO TITLE "Alphabet St." INDEX 01 05:46:00 TRACK 03 AUDIO TITLE "Glam Slam" INDEX 01 11:25:00 TRACK 04 AUDIO TITLE "Anna Stesia" INDEX 01 16:31:00 TRACK 05 AUDIO TITLE "Dance On" INDEX 01 21:28:00 TRACK 06 AUDIO TITLE "Lovesexy" INDEX 01 25:13:42 TRACK 07 AUDIO TITLE "When 2 R In Love" INDEX 01 31:01:17 TRACK 08 AUDIO TITLE "I Wish U Heaven" INDEX 01 35:01:43 TRACK 09 AUDIO TITLE "Positivity" INDEX 01 37:48:47
(From the original poster) "the above information is my cue file for how I split the album cut and paste it with notepad -- change the location of the file at the start, and save as .cue"
Here's another one if that one doesn't work:
REM GENRE Rock REM DATE 1988 REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.95b4" PERFORMER "Prince" TITLE "LoveSexy" FILE "Prince - Lovesexy.wav" WAVE TRACK 01 AUDIO TITLE "Eye No" PERFORMER "Prince" INDEX 01 00:00:00 TRACK 02 AUDIO TITLE "Alphabet St." PERFORMER "Prince" INDEX 01 05:46:00 TRACK 03 AUDIO TITLE "Glam Slam" PERFORMER "Prince" INDEX 01 11:24:00 TRACK 04 AUDIO TITLE "Anna Stesia" PERFORMER "Prince" INDEX 01 16:30:00 TRACK 05 AUDIO TITLE "Dance On" PERFORMER "Prince" INDEX 01 21:30:00 TRACK 06 AUDIO TITLE "LoveSexy" PERFORMER "Prince" INDEX 01 25:14:00 TRACK 07 AUDIO TITLE "When 2 R In Love" PERFORMER "Prince" INDEX 01 31:04:34 TRACK 08 AUDIO TITLE "I Wish U Heaven" PERFORMER "Prince" INDEX 01 35:03:30 TRACK 09 AUDIO TITLE "Positivity" PERFORMER "Prince" INDEX 01 37:46:58
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Post subject: [2022-02-04] Prince remasters (NPG/Legacy)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:45 am
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Far from an expert, but it is my understanding that while there may have been some re-issues throughout the years, there has not been any remastering, so on face value that would indicate same as when first released. There may be exceptions to the a title that I am unaware of, but it appears no need to upgrade. I picked up two only - Dirty Mind as I had a slight issue with my original, and Lovesexy gambling (and losing) that it would be tracked.
I don't know what it means for future deluxe editions. I suspect more to come (I believe Diamonds and Pearls is next - which is a solid album, but I really hope they are going to do a few more from the 80's).
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:48 am
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Invisible Pedestrian wrote:
NoURider wrote:
Reportedly, these are straight re-issues of previous mastering; not remastered.
Thanks.
Do you know what year the last masters were from that these would be from?
And does this mean these don’t see deluxe editions (aside from the ones that have been deluxe already)?
It's the latest remastering for each of the titles. So for 1999 and Sign O The Times, it would be the mastering that were included in the deluxe versions. If the titles haven't been remastered, it will be the mastering from the original CD releases.
I think these were just put out because of the label change...to get Warner Bros. logo off the packaging and get the Sony logo (in this case, Legacy) on the packaging.
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:57 am
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Not so much to get the logo off the packaging but to get the titles back onto the market. The label and estate don't make money if there's no product to sell.
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