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This is the CD / Blu-ray version of a brand new (2018) Stereo & 5.1 remix of Marillion's 1987 album Clutching At Straws.

Disc One features a brand new stereo remix of the album by Andy Bradfield & Avril Mackintosh.

Discs Two and Three contain Marillion’s December 19th, 1987 concert at The Edinburgh Playhouse, remixed by Michael Hunter.

Disc Four contains the demos from the 1999 EMI 2CD remaster, along with four previously unreleased demos of Clutching material.

The blu-ray contains 48/24 audio of the remix of the album in stereo and 5.1.

Also included are the promo videos for the album’s singles, The Last Straw (a new documentary about the album), the original 1987 album mix and bonus tracks.

[tracklisting][CD1: Clutching At Straws (2018 Andy Bradfield & Avril Mackintosh Remix)]
1. Hotel Hobbies
2. Warm Wet Circles
3. That Time Of The Night (The Short Straw)
4. Going Under [Alternate Version]
5. Just For The Record
6. White Russian
7. Incommunicado
8. Torch Song
9. Slainte Mhath
10. Sugar Mice
11. The Last Straw
12. Happy Ending?

[CD2: Live At Edinburgh Playhouse 1987 (Michael Hunter Mix)]
1. Intro - La Gazza Ladra
2. Slainte Mhath
3. Assassing
4. White Russian
5. Incubus
6. Sugar Mice
7. Fugazi
8. Hotel Hobbies
9. Warm Wet Circles
10. That Time Of The Night (The Short Straw)

[CD3: Live At Edinburgh Playhouse 1987 (Michael Hunter Mix)]
1. Pseudo Silk Kimono
2. Kayleigh
3. Lavender
4. Bitter Suite
5. Heart Of Lothian
6. The Last Straw
7. Incommunicado
8. Garden Party
9. Market Square Heroes

[CD4: Demos & Extras]
1. Beaujolais Day
2. Story From A Thin Wall
3. Shadows On The Barley
4. Exile On Princes Street
5. Sunset Hill
6. Tic-Tac-Toe
7. Voice In The Crowd
8. Sugar Mice In The Rain
9. Hotel Hobbies / Warm Wet Circles [Mosaic Demos]
10. Just For The Record [Mosaic Demos]
11. Torch Song [Mosaic Demos]
12. Slainte Mhath [Mosaic Demos]

[Blu-ray]
- 48/24 PCM Stereo Remix
- 48/24 LPCM Master Audio 5.1 Mix
- 48/24 DTS Master Audio 5.1 Mix
- 1987 Album Mix
- Documentary: The Last Straw
- Promo Videos: Incommunicado, Sugar Mice, Warm Wet Circles
- Bonus Tracks: Incommunicado [Alternate Version], Tux On, Going Under [Extended Version][/tracklisting]

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Excellent! :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: [2018-11-23] Marillion "Clutching At Straws (Deluxe Edition)" 4CD/1BD box set incl. hi-res 5.1 remix (Parlophone/Rhino)
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Initial reactions:

• No Steven Wilson?!? Although he was never confirmed for anything past Brave, I think that will still be a disappointment for many who were anticipating this release.
• The Edinburgh show has been widely bootlegged from an FM broadcast, but it will be nice to have the complete set in (presumably) best quality.
• Slightly annoying to have the bonus tracks split up between CD and Blu-ray... based on the 1999 track timings, they might have all fit on a single CD.
• Definitely looking forward to viewing The Last Straw documentary!
• Boo (again, a la the Brave Deluxe Edition) to that ratings mark which needlessly mars the box art.
• As with the Misplaced set, various signed goodies are available with direct orders from the official Fish and Marillion websites.

What do people think of the decision to substitute the alternate version of "Going Under" (with Rothery's guitar solo) for the original on the 2018 remix?



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More discussion regarding the set from Fish's official site...
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I’m proud and pleased to announce that the ‘Clutching at Straws’ remaster is finally available for pre order with the release date of November 23rd. As my favourite of all the albums I created with my former band it was always going to be a special project. I realised it would also be demanding as it involved revisiting some turbulent times and scratching some old wounds.

The documentary we filmed for the Blu Ray on the CD box set version at the Old Reindeer Inn in Banbury back in May when we were interviewed by Mick Wall had a couple of awkward moments and makes for some interesting viewing. Old friendships however prevailed and the existing camaraderie is obvious.

The footage is part of a great collection of material on the disc taking in demos from 1986 and from the follow up album that never happened in 1988. The promotional videos are all there and I have to admit having a big smile watching the ‘Incommunicado’ clip for the first time in years.

The 5-1 mix is truly wonderful and was created by Andy Bradfield and Avril Mackintosh who was the original mixing engineer for producer Chris Kimsey in Advision studios back in 1987. Knowing the album inside out she has added, together with Andy an amazing new take on the songs and brought a whole new energy and life into both the 5-1 and new stereo mixes.

The live material that is on both the vinyl and CD versions is from a legendary show in Edinburgh on December 19th 1987 and this is the first time it’s been featured in its entirety. Again I had some happy memories of a breath-taking gig I’m glad to see unearthed and finally released in all its glory.

Mark Wilkinson as always has put together a great package and with Mick Wall’s new sleeve notes and a host of photos it makes for an interesting read. It was definitely a trip back in time for me on this project.


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My favorite Marillion album by far, but once again really lacking in the bonus department.

No Wilson involvement is hugely disappointing as well.

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Will order this for certain.


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I had a number of comments that were accidently deleted.

A few of them:

Only 48/24 on the blu-ray??? :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

No Wilson?? STOOPID

This is my favorite Marillion album. Unfortunately the band seems to be in brickwall mode since the 2 cd expanded remasters. I hope this is is least a sonic upgrade over the original cd.....

The current price on the band's website is fair at $24.99 pounds + s/h.

No Wilson???? GRRRRRRRRRRRR

And using an alternate version as a bonus track would have been great, but using it to replace the original which appears to have been totally eliminated???? NO.

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Maybe Wilson did not want to be involved?


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Unless Wilson speaks up (unlikely) we'll never know. If I remember right, there were issues with the band not liking (& not using) his 2.0's on Misplaced.

The fact is both Marillion & Fish do release loud sounding cd's, blu's & files (including on their in house label, Racket) & Wilson keeps the volume much more moderate. That may be the issue in a nutshell.

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The CD/Blu-ray set is now available on certain web sites for order including autographed versions. Cheaper to get the regular issue of course, tough decision.

I have bought all of their Blu-rays and find them all quite listenable on my P.O.S. system. I hope they do get around to other deluxe editions from both eras. :thumbsup:


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Notice how Barry gets in front of Geff's complaints by insulting his own audio system first. We should all do this.

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Sorry, my system isn't a POS. It isn't even close to the best you can get, but it is far from a POS, & intentionally quite neutral in tone. When I had money, high end audio was a hobby from the early 90's.

Some of you collect packaging, some collect 5.1.

I have ALWAYS (at least since my mid teens) collected the best sounding version of music that I like. (I spent a fortune on Japanese vinyl in the day).

Sometimes I feel like many Icers feel that collecting packaging is perfectly acceptable, but collecting the best sounding version of a great album is unacceptable.

I'm in it for the music.

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Linda wrote:
Notice how Barry gets in front of Geff's complaints by insulting his own audio system first. We should all do this.


Insult my system? :D


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You said you had a POS system. I assume you didn't mean "point of sale".

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The general release is now listed for pre-order at Amazon UK:

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Linda wrote:
You said you had a POS system. I assume you didn't mean "point of sale".

I was attempting to make a joke when you said "we should all do this". As in we should all insult his system.

:oops:

Back to Clutching at Straws. I better order this now before I forget. 8-)


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eelkiller wrote:
Linda wrote:
You said you had a POS system. I assume you didn't mean "point of sale".

I was attempting to make a joke when you said "we should all do this". As in we should all insult his system.

:oops:

Back to Clutching at Straws. I better order this now before I forget. 8-)

Okay, I gotcha. :)

The audio equipment in Geff's bathroom is better than most of our living room systems, so it would be hard to insult him even in jest.

However, since we're in a 5.1 thread, I will say that surround from a well-mastered 16-bit source is a more immersive experience for me than 24-bit in only two channels. And that includes synthesised Dolby surround, which is how I listen to a lot of my stereo CDs. (Of course in the case of this Marillion release it's the best of both worlds, a 5.1 mix in the highest resolution.)

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Linda wrote:
eelkiller wrote:
Linda wrote:
You said you had a POS system. I assume you didn't mean "point of sale".

I was attempting to make a joke when you said "we should all do this". As in we should all insult his system.

:oops:

Back to Clutching at Straws. I better order this now before I forget. 8-)

Okay, I gotcha. :)

The audio equipment in Geff's bathroom is better than most of our living room systems, so it would be hard to insult him even in jest.

However, since we're in a 5.1 thread, I will say that surround from a well-mastered 16-bit source is a more immersive experience for me than 24-bit in only two channels. And that includes synthesised Dolby surround, which is how I listen to a lot of my stereo CDs. (Of course in the case of this Marillion release it's the best of both worlds, a 5.1 mix in the highest resolution.)


The bathrooms, kitchen, & bedroom #2 are the only rooms without some sort of system, lol!

It's rather amusing, my "house" came with a permanently built in (& broken) 8 track/Am FM stereo with speakers in the ceiling!

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The inside story behind Marillion's Clutching At Straws
By Dave Everley | May 23, 2017
It’s been 30 years since the final Fish-fronted Marillion album was released, and it was a tumultuous journey for all involved. Prog gets the real story of how Clutching At Straws was made.

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The unity of the band seemed to have gone... Steve Rothery wasn't wrong. Fish (left) and Pete Trewavas in 1988 as the band began to fall apart.

The Freilichtbühne Loreley is one of the world’s great venues. Perched high on the Loreley, a 400-foot rock overlooking the Rhine Gorge in Western Germany, this open-air amphitheatre was originally built by the Nazis as a Thingplatz – a showcase venue for the Third Reich to stage displays of propaganda thinly disguised as drama.

Other, older myths surround the Loreley. According to local folklore, it was the home of a siren who would draw passing ships onto the rocks more than 400 feet below. This macabre legend has been referenced in music by everyone from German composer Felix Mendelssohn to Wishbone Ash.

On July 18, 1987, Marillion arrived at the Loreley to play one of the biggest headlining shows of their career yet. It was two years since the release of Misplaced Childhood, the album that turned this unfashionable prog band into the unlikeliest pop stars of the decade.

But success had brought unforeseen issues. The demands of constant touring were taking their toll, and the gang mentality that originally fueled them was fracturing. This turbulence was captured on the band’s most recent album, Clutching At Straws, a snapshot of a band struggling to keep their heads above water. In its central character, Torch, frontman Fish laid his own inner turmoil bare.

The 20,000 fans gathered at Loreley to see them might not have been aware, but Marillion were under a dark cloud. Behind the scenes, the band had split into two camps: Fish on one side, the rest of his bandmates on the other.

“Things were very miserable,” says guitarist Steve Rothery today. “If you watch the Live From Loreley video, you can see the mood. The unity had gone. You can blame many things, you can point the finger at people who were hanging round and aggravating the problem, whispering in ears. But whatever the reason, it reached critical mass. There was something fundamentally wrong with how things were.”

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Clutching At Straws-era Marillion: the cracks were already beginning to show

Their career wasn’t dashed on the rocks at Loreley, but they were listing badly. Within 18 months, the Fish era had come crashing to an acrimonious end, leaving the wreckage of broken friendships in its wake. At the heart of it all was Clutching At Straws – Marillion’s dark masterpiece.

Clutching At Straws is a brilliant album,” says Fish. “I prefer it to Misplaced Childhood. It’s very honest, very open, to the point where you go, ‘Fucking hell…’”

“I feel less warm towards that album than I do Misplaced Childhood,” says keyboard player Mark Kelly. “But I know some people really like it.”

“It’s a strange album, Clutching,” says Rothery. “It’s a very powerful album in that it’s got some of our best work. But you can also see the fracture lines.”

The retrospective view of their fourth album is one of the few things the men who made it disagree on – remarkable, given the circumstances that surrounded it and the eventual outcome. On most other points, they’re in surprising accordance, albeit with markedly different individual perspectives. Certainly, all five members put the root of their problems down to the incessant touring schedule imposed on them by their manager, John Arnison.

“Just when you thought it was coming to an end, there’d be another fucking series of gigs,” says Fish. “We were squeezing the pips dry on Misplaced. It was like being at the circus. It’s all fucking singing and dancing, but when you walk outside the tent, it’s scabby animals and shite. I was physically and mentally exhausted a lot of the time.”

“I think Fish probably felt the pressure more than anyone else,” says bassist Peter Trewavas. “If you’re the person everybody wants to talk to, then the demands on your time are so great. Maybe we could have been a bit more understanding about that. But when things are happening, it’s like a fairground ride.”

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Warm Wet Circles: it wasn’t all tough times...

The singer admits that he was partying hard, partly as a release from the seemingly endless grind. His exploits were seized on with glee by the press, who liked their rock stars larger than life and, preferably, always ready with an open wallet.

“There were a lot of shadowy people around us and a lot of fucking drugs on offer, let’s be open and honest about it,” says Fish. “People go out on tour, they get tired and worn down, they need something to pep them up for the show. Then suddenly you’ve finished the show and you’re still getting pepped up. You’re in an eternal overdraft of energy.”

It was this hedonistic lifestyle that prompted the singer to create the character who sat at the centre of Clutching At Straws. Torch was supposedly a writer suffering from writer’s block, an older, more disillusioned version of the Jester from Marillion’s earlier album. At 29, he was the same age as the man who conceived him. It didn’t take a psychologist to work out that Torch, like the Jester and the kid from Misplaced Childhood, was essentially Fish himself.

“I created the Torch character as a kind of alter ego,” he admits. “I think it was to disguise some of the excess in the lyrics that I was talking about. Because I felt guilty.”

The band needed a holiday, but the break that could have eased their situation and reset increasingly strained relationships never materialised. Instead, the band were bundled back into the studio to record a follow-up to Misplaced Childhood. EMI wanted another hit album in short order.

“The touring really did take it out of us,” says drummer Ian Mosley. “Then reality hit us when it came down to writing another album. You’ve got a blank canvas in front of you and the record company is going, ‘Is it ready yet?’”

“Now we were in the Premier League the label didn’t want us to turn into fucking Leicester City,” says Fish.

The band began sketching out rough ideas for their fourth album at Steve Rothery’s house in Wendover. Peter Trewavas remembers sketching out the beginnings of opening track "Hotel Hobbies" – “the soundscapey bit” he says – before the label paid for the band to decamp at a rehearsal studio between London and Brighton.

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Steve Rothery larking about

“They wanted to get us away from the clubs and bars and dark influences,” says Fish. “Everybody went down there, we were going to be good little boys and concentrate on writing an album. And it was just awful. People were getting tetchy.”

Marillion’s traditional approach to songwriting involved building up segments of songs which they would then find a way of piecing together like a jigsaw. Or, in Fish’s words, “Trying to put them together with a hammer.”

“It was a bit like Misplaced Childhood Part 2,” agrees Steve Rothery. “We were trying to stick all these tracks together that didn’t really belong together. We had to step back a bit and re-evaluate what we were doing.”

This much became clear when Chris Kimsey, who had produced Misplaced Childhood and would work on the new album, arrived with the band’s A&R man, Hugh Stanley-Clarke, to hear what the band had written. The pair were unimpressed.

“They were, like, ‘Is that all you’ve managed to come up with?’” says Fish. “Chris said, ‘I don’t hear any fucking singles in there.’”

There was one song that did stand out. It had emerged from one of the band’s sporadic post-pub jam sessions and was powered by a catchy Mark Kelly keyboard riff (“What we called ‘The widdly-widdly synth stuff,’” he says). The song would eventually be titled "Incommunicado". But, according to Fish, the rest of the band were dismissive of it.

“I always loved The Who, and I wanted to do more rocky stuff, but the band were not into the idea,” says Fish. “And they were not into 'Incommunicado'. But we played it to Chris Kimsey and he said, ‘That’s it – that’s the single.’ I was really chuffed. I felt like I got a backing for what I wanted to do.”

This split in opinion over "Incommunicado" didn’t augur well for Marillion’s future. It wasn’t the only point of difference either. Steve Rothery had brought in a song he’d been working on that the band thought had a lot of potential. Fish supplied a set of vivid lyrics inspired by observations he’d had while drinking one night in a pub near his parents’ house in North Berwick. The song was titled "Warm Wet Circles". But not everyone was impressed.

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Fish: touring was like "being at the circus". Performing mice and all...

“I liked the music, but I hated the fact that it was called 'Warm Wet Circles',” says Mark Kelly. “We weren’t chasing hit singles, but if you want to kill a song stone dead, call it 'Warm Wet Circles'. Fish’s attitude was a bit like, ‘Fuck you, I’m going to do what I want.’”

Musically, Marillion had largely jettisoned the more traditional prog elements of their sound. The ornate musicality of "Grendel" and "The Web" was a distant memory, replaced by a more mature approach that wouldn’t upset the daytime radio listeners who had bought "Kayleigh" in their droves. But lyrically, Clutching At Straws disappeared down an altogether bleaker rabbit hole.

“It’s a lot less optimistic an album,” says guitarist Steve Rothery. “Some of it symbolises Fish’s disillusionment – he wanted success and he got success, but it didn’t bring him the personal happiness that I think he expected it to.”

“It’s a ‘drunken poet’ album,” says Fish. “That’s why the cover featured Burns and Kerouac and Truman Capote. All those people were people who had a strong association with alcohol.”

Booze soaked deep into the pores of Clutching At Straws, from the whisky-and-shattered-dreams anthem "Slàinte Mhath" (a Scottish drinking toast) to "Torch Song", in which a doctor solemnly intones that if the titular character doesn’t stop drinking, he “won’t reach 30”. The latter referenced Beat author Jack Kerouac’s famous quote: “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow Roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes ‘Awww!’”

“It felt like, ‘Oh, I’ve got an alcohol problem, I take too many drugs, look at me, I’m a rock star, I’ve got problems,’” says Kelly. “It was all a bit clichéd and childish. It was over-dramatic, that whole, ‘Carry on like this, you won’t reach 30’ thing. He did carry on and he’s still with us now.”

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Bar Brawl: The photo template for the cover of the album

The album’s title certainly laid bare the record’s over-arching themes, referencing both alcohol and cocaine use, as well as the fact that the band were, in Fish’s words, “Desperate to make a big album.” The problem was that the band simply weren’t getting on. One song, That Time Of The Night, found Fish’s frustrations bubbling to the surface.

“It was my resignation statement: ‘So if you ask me where do I go from here, my next destination even isn’t really that clear,’” he says. “Somebody had brought some coke down to the studio and I ended up doing a couple of lines, and then suddenly I was in a bedroom, there was no alcohol, and I couldn’t sleep. I actually wrote most of that lyric that night. I just felt really alienated.”

“It seemed to be that the thing Fish used to love doing, he started to hate,” says Rothery. “He was looking for people to blame.”

The powderkeg finally exploded towards the end of the sessions. An argument flared up which ended with Fish throwing a whiskey tumbler at the guitarist.

“I stormed out and that was it,” says Rothery, who says his relationship with the singer had been deteriorating since the time of Misplaced Childhood. “I was out of the band for 24 hours. But I wasn’t really close to Fish at that point. It’s unfortunate, because on a personal level we had an amazing chemistry together, but that friendship seemed to gradually dissolve.”

After some hastily arranged talks to clear the air, the band pulled themselves back from the brink of self-destruction, at least temporarily, but the die had been cast.

If Misplaced Childhood has ended on a note of defiant positivity, by Clutching At Straws all that had gone. It was the hunched figure with red-rimmed eyes sat glowering in the corner of every pub, trying to drink off last night’s hangover.

But it was a strangely romantic album too, one that wore its neurosis and self-pity like a badge. Occasionally, as on the chillingly prescient "White Russian" – inspired by the election of Austrian president Kurt Waldheim, despite rumours of Nazi involvement during World War II – it looked up from its half-empty glass and gazed outwards to the world at large, only to recoil at what it saw.

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The back cover of “drunken poet” album Clutching At Straws

Musically, it was Marillion’s most accomplished and mature album yet. The sharp edges of their first three albums had been smoothed away, replaced by a sound that ebbed and flowed between triumph and introspection. They may still have worked by hammering together jigsaw pieces, but the likes of "Warm Wet Circles" and the tender "Sugar Mice" – inspired, as the opening lines suggest, by a day stuck in a depressing Holiday Inn in Milwaukee while the rain poured down outside – pointed towards the band’s post-Fish future.

Clutching At Straws was released in June 1987, and peaked at No.2 on the UK album charts – one place below Misplaced Childhood, which had reached the top spot. The champagne corks popped, though any celebrations were soured by the mood within the band.

“We weren’t getting on, and by the time we got to the tour it was intolerable,” says Fish. “The tour bus was not a good place to be. We all sat in different positions, nobody saying anything. The gang mentality had broken up.”

Except it hadn’t, not quite. The band was certainly fracturing, but on one side was the singer and on the other was everybody else.

“I remember avoiding Fish on tour,” says Kelly. “He was in 24⁄7 party mode. He’d say, ‘Come on, let’s go out.’ You’d go out, but he wouldn’t want you to leave. He’d make you feel like a terrible bastard for wanting to go to bed at 3am.”

From the outside, it looked like the band were flying. The first single from the album, "Incommunicado", had reached the Top 10, while "Sugar Mice" and "Warm Wet Circles" reached the Top 40. They were playing arenas across Europe. But being a member of Marillion in 1987 through 1988 was a lonely place to be.

“I was going onstage every night and feeling like I was playing by myself,” says Kelly. “I was up on this big riser away from everybody, and Ian was on this big riser across the stage. You become separated from everything. At one point, Pete said, ‘I think I saw somebody up in the lighting truss during the show.’ The manager said, ‘Yeah, you’ve got 10 people up there, operating things.’”

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Mark Wilkinson’s initial artwork

“We were in a bit of a bubble,” adds Trewavas. “We couldn’t go anywhere without security. We had to check into hotels under pseudonyms. We couldn’t just go and do a soundcheck. It had to be: ‘So-and-so is going to pick you up at this time, then you’re going to drive around to the back of the building, that’s going to take about 40 minutes.’ Everything was being over-thought.”

“It was just fucking draining,” says Fish. “We were playing these concrete halls in Italy with shite sound, and I’d just had enough. You’ve got to remember, I’m going out there every night singing about how shite it is being out on the road. There was a kind of feedback loop going on. If I was singing fucking ABBA songs, it would have felt a lot better.”

Everyone involved says that the problem could have been relieved if they’d been allowed to have a break from touring – and from each other. But their management was determined to keep them on the road, to the detriment of the band itself.

“These were people who had been great friends of mine,” says Fish. “We were comrades. But we were so distant from each other. John Arnison should have said, ‘Everybody, go away for a year – Fish, go and do some acting, Steve, go and write some soundtrack music.’”

In June 1988, a year after Clutching At Straws was released, Marillion played the Radrennbahn Weissensee cycling track in East Berlin in front of 95,000 people. It should have been a triumph, but things had reached the point of no return.

“The gig was incredible,” says Ian Mosley. “But we came offstage and people were saying, ‘I didn’t really enjoy that.’ That’s when alarm bells went off: ‘If you didn’t enjoy that, then something is very wrong…’”

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Together Yet Apart: it became Fish versus Marillion

A month later, the band headlined Fife Aid, a poorly attended charity gig at Craigtoun Country Park in St Andrews organised by TV naturalist David Bellamy. It was, Steve Rothery recalls, “A fairly dismal day all round.” They didn’t know it at the time – though they may have sensed it – but it would be Fish’s last gig with Marillion.

“Things had started going properly wrong at the end of the Clutching At Straws tour,” says Trewavas. “After that, there was a kind of reluctance to get together and work.”

There was a last-ditch attempt to salvage things. The band began working on new material in Trewavas’ garage, before eventually decamping to Dalnaglar Castle, a stately pile in Perthshire which was miles away from civilisation.

“That was a terrible mistake,” says Kelly. “Not only were we not getting on, we didn’t really want to be together, and we had nowhere to go.”

“We went back to the same routine,” says Fish. “It was the same bits going up on the fucking blackboard: this is the Joni Mitchell section, this is the Floyd section. There we were again, in the same shit.”

A gulf had opened up between what the band wanted and what the singer wanted, and neither side were ready to compromise. “I don’t know if he thought we weren’t giving his ideas much of a try,” says Trewavas. “But then some of his lyrics weren’t quite what we wanted to work on, either.”

The music the band recorded in Dalnaglar, and during an earlier session in Nettlebed, near Reading, wouldn’t go to waste, with some of it ending up on the first two post-Fish albums Season’s End and Holidays In Eden. Similarly, the singer’s lyrics would re-appear on his own debut solo album, Vigil In A Wilderness Of Mirrors, and the title track of its follow-up, Internal Exile. But, as the bassist puts it: “Something had to give.” They wouldn’t have long to wait before it did.

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Bob Ezrin had been scoped out to produce Marillion’s next album. The American, who had worked on such landmark records Lou Reed’s Berlin, Kiss’ Destroyer and Pink Floyd’s The Wall, flew to the UK to meet the band.

“Bob came down to meet the band in some studio in Surrey,” says Fish. “He said, ‘OK, play me what you’ve got.’ And the band played all the bits and pieces they had. And Bob said, ‘There are no songs here. These are just bits.’ After Bob left, the band started going, ‘Alright, let’s try joining this bit onto this bit.’ And I just went, ‘This is a waste of fucking time. I can’t deal with it.’”

The singer headed to his cousin’s house in Wiltshire. “I drunk a 40-fluid-oz bottle of Jim Beam on my fucking own, and I was still standing, because I was so stressed and tense.”

He woke up the next morning with a clear head and made a decision that would change his life and alter the course of the band. “I wrote a five-page letter, got it photocopied at a local office suppliers and paid for a taxi driver to deliver it to everybody else’s house. I basically said, ‘Either fundamental changes are made within the management and we get rid of John Arnison or I’m leaving.’ The next thing, I get a phone call from management saying, ‘The band have decided to accept your resignation.’”

“Fish said he wanted 50 per cent of all the publishing and all the writing,” says Mosley. “That’s when it got out of hand. Everybody said, ‘This has gone too far.’”

This is where memories diverge. Mark Kelly says that Fish spoke to the band’s manager a few days later, suggesting that he might have made a hasty decision, something Fish refutes. But whatever happened, the outcome was irrefutable: Fish was no longer a member of Marillion.

Speaking separately to the rest of the band today, they all use the same word to describe the emotions they went through in the aftermath of Fish’s departure: relief.

“Because things had got so difficult,” says Rothery. “Fish had never really had anything to do with the writing of the music. So we knew that our musical identity was still there. We had a lot of great ideas. Maybe, slightly naïvely, we thought it would be just a case of finding someone to replace him. As if it was ever going to be that easy.”

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Fish was at his wits’ end...

“Fish’s departure was, ‘OK, this is part of the process,’” says Peter Trewavas. “Don’t get me wrong – it was a big thing, and we had to fill a big hole. It took us a long time to do that.”

The split was bitter and nasty. Barbs were exchanged in the press, and there was a debilitating court case between the two sides. It would be a decade before they began speaking again, by which time by Fish was deep into his solo career and Marillion had reinvented themselves with their new singer, Steve Hogarth.

“We did go through a very public and very angry divorce,” says Fish. “Nowadays, we’re absolutely fine. We all get on pretty well. I still consider them friends. But to be blunt and honest about it, neither party has ever reached the commercial success we had in the 80s. But I don’t miss it. I’m much happier with my lot these days.”

Thirty years on, Clutching At Straws stands as a strangely fitting epitaph to Marillion’s best-known 80s line-up in all its fractious, boozy glory. The great ‘what ifs’ that surround it – what if Fish had stayed, what if they’d made another album together – are the source of many a drunken argument. But in the end it’s all hypothetical. Like Kerouac’s Roman candle, the Fish-era line-up of Marillion was always going to fizzle out. Slàinte Mhath, as they say north of the border.

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One thing I will share: I'm a recovering alcoholic (no slips at all since 1989). This album played a huge role in my ability to quit. I intentionally played it daily or more for the last year or so that I drank.

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Geff R. wrote:
One thing I will share: I'm a recovering alcoholic (no slips at all since 1989). This album played a huge role in my ability to quit. I intentionally played it daily or more for the last year or so that I drank.


Congratulation to you on the no slips. Music is the best addiction there is.


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