This should be interesting. These guys were really good.

Wow.... I didn't know they made only four studio albums, all with Mercury.

Night Songs, Long Cold Winter, Heartbreak Station, and Still Climbing.

Might be worth the $$$'s if these are new remasters. I only had their first two.

I bought their first one the day after seeing them open for Dave Roth on his first solo tour. Great concert overall from both bands.

Way better than the Hair Metal people think they were.

This band was very blues based actually, and really matured with Heartbreak Station.

They formed about 5 minutes from where I live and were playing the NJ and Philly clubs for a few years before signing with Mercury/Polygram.

What made me like them when I first saw them was how they sound kind of like AC/DC without really copying them. Of course, the first album was, in my opinion, their heaviest.

Pete nailed it here, they were more a blues/hard rock band. They dressed or marketed as 'Hair metal" but they were much better than many of the bands that they were pigeoned hole with. I will be getting this box set for sure!

I have acquired an appreciation for them much later in life. I agree that they are done a disservice lumped in with the hair metal genre

ummm… not to be Un-Wan or anything, but I disagree. They may have sloughed off their glam metal start to focus more on the blues (the way Bon Jovi did with the roots rocker thing), but for their first album and a half, I would suggest they were hair / glam metal - we certainly considered them such. Hair Metal was a broad tent, and Cinderella certainly fit. Shake Me, Somebody Save Me; Push, Push; and Don't Know What You've Got could have been done by 300 hundred other bands between 84 and 87. If Aerosmith's Pump and Whitesnake's 1987 and GnR's Appetite for Destruction and Bon Jovi's Slippery When Wet can get tagged with (and take advantage of) the hair metal label, so can Cinderella's Night Songs. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Don't get me wrong, I think they were an above average band, and they probably didn't deserve their fate the same way a lot of the others did. I'm glad they're still out there, and still being creative. But to say they weren't hair metal, and therefore they're okay to like strikes me as a little condescending. The subtext I'm seeing in this thread is "I don't like hair metal but I like Cinderella, so ipso facto Cinderella is not hair metal". And that's not really cool.

Like what you like, but no need to look down your nose at the stuff you don't.

Jason

I am not down on hair metal at all personally. I love the genre. I am just saying that Cinderella had always been lumped in with the other stuff but I think in hindsight that it is better than the Kix/Saigon Kick/Warrants of the world. I would argue that hair metal is very cool!

They weren't Hair Metal (a made-up thing anyway).

No Hair Metal acts were doing things like "Shelter Me" or "Heartbreak Station."

I know some of the guys and they always felt misunderstood because as they matured musically, less people got what they were doing.

Just like Great White, who also had nothing to do with Poison, Warrant, etc. When I interviewed Mark Kendall (a damn fine player) for my book and asked him about the Hair Metal tag he told me that we were judged on our hair, fashion and MTV and not our music and it hurt as much as it helped.

Also, mocking Cinderella's writing and saying 300 other bands could do their music isn't cool either.

Actually, it's pretty insulting.

If you don't think that Hair Metal was a thing, then I guess we have a difference of opinion on that, and there's not much point discussing whether or not a band was or wasn't part of that scene.

as for the 300 bands, I was being hyberbolic; every bar band in the world was trying to do what Cinderella did, and I intentionally chose songs which I felt helped with my argument, when others didn't. As I noted, though, I did think they were a better than average band from that era, and that they had been done wrong by the music fans and business when glam collapsed. But sometimes, the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater, and there's not much that can done about that. Bon Jovi certainly wouldn't have been my choice for survivor of the Glam Apocalypse

Unlike Cinderella, I don't recall anyone outside the media include Great White (another band I liked) as hair metal. Their blues rock influences were just to obvious to be seen and heard. I do remember them getting brutally ripped for being a Led Zeppelin cover band, but didn't think that was fair; if Great White were the average for a rock band, I think I would have been much happier with the state of pop music than I was.

Enjoy your weekend.

Bump: Added the packshot to the first post.

Cinderella is as hair metal as hair metal can be. "Well, they had some gospel influence in one song so they are not hair metal!" LOL, give me a break.

Surprised that Saigon Kick's name came up in this, because they deviated much further away from hair metal by the time they got to their third album. Almost like a (then) modern, psychedelic cross between David Bowie and The Beatles (there is a cover of Space Oddity on the album).







Even when Saigon Kick went back to more hair metal elements with their fourth album, the songwriting just didn't always fit the formula and when they heavied it up the guitars were almost too heavy for what is normally associated with hair metal.

This one was always a personal favorite of mine (from the fourth album):

For me, Cinderella was hair metal in looks only. Their first album reeked heavily of AC/DC (to me) and that was a selling point for myself. By the second album, they were doing their own thing, for good or bad depending on what someone likes.

But I never associated Cinderella with the Motley Crue's, Quiet Riot's, etc.

Totally agree. When I was on assignment in RTP, NC a co-worker was really into them. When he expressed this I acknowledged but didn't offer any comment. When pressed I mentioned the possible hair-metal connection not knowing the band, Man did he let me have it. He required I have lunch in his truck and playback their CD as we drove around and I was so blown away. I was apologized for letting looks perceive a band's sound. He just smiled and continued to crank it up.

With that said, once I see this at a great price I'm in.

As am I.

Still Climbing is underrated!

We now have the description and tracklist in the first post, and the release date has been brought forward to September 28th.

Dang, I forgot to pre-order this.

Now the USA listing is 3rd party only. Any advice? Should I go that route, or wait till it's back in stock with Amazon? Or go with Amazon UK?

One option is to order through "Amazon Global Store UK" under third party sellers at Amazon USA (it's actually Amazon itself). I believe that after conversion it will come out to about the same price as ordering directly from Amazon UK, but this way you'll be guaranteed no customs charges, and you'll get a tracking number:

Amazon USA
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FDMZ23T/?tag=imwan-20

Amazon UK
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07FDMZ23T/?tag=imwan-21

Ordered from a 3rd party in Europe. Even with shipping under $25.00.