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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:23 pm |
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Boney Fingers Jones
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Geff R. wrote: Not saying it sucks, but am saying (especially in a recession) it's far from essential. I can't imagining this equaling or even coming close to the original. I'll keep my good memories of the original (one of my favorite albums of 1975) and pass on this.
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Geff R.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:07 pm |
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I HATE MP3'S
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Playing it a 2nd time. I don't hate it as much as I did last night, but the anti disco song is still WRETCHED.
Also turns out that the European Deluxe ed (NOT THE COMIC BOOK ED) has a cover of the Animals We've Got To Get Out Of This Place as a bonus track that's not on the USA Best Buy ed. Oddly, the Magazine ed just has 3 of the 4 US bonus trax. So if you're an AC completist, for the music you have to buy the Best Buy & the UK "deluxe"; or both UK versions if you want the comic book. And I haven't even looked at cd Japan!
To spell it out,
Bonus trax:
USA Best Buy 15. Exclusive Bonus Track: Under The Bed (new studio track) 16. Exclusive Bonus Track: Poison (live at the Download Festival) 17. Exclusive Bonus Track: No More Mr. Nice Guy (live at the Download Festival) 18 . Exclusive Bonus Track: Black Widow (live at the Download Festival)
UK Deluxe Edition 15. We Gotta Get Out Of This Place
(Bonus Track) 16. No More Mr. Nice Guy (Live At Download Festival, Bonus Track) 17. The Black Widow (Live At Download Festival, Bonus Track)
UK Collector's Edition 15. Under the bed - bonus track 16. Poison - bonus track live from download Magazine
Edit: I had to look it up. The Japan edition has 1 bonus track: We've Got To Get Out Of This Place.
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Last edited by Geff R. on Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:29 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Kym
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:02 pm |
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I thought Dirty Diamonds was a pretty strong album.
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Billy Taylor
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:46 pm |
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Does anyone know whether any of the live tracks on the Best Buy edition are with the original band?
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Steven Clubb
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:06 am |
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Liefeld Funny
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Currently listening to it. It captures the sound of the Steven Trilogy (Nightmare, Goes To Hell, Lace & Whiskey), but whereas those three albums sounded of their era, this sounds like a failed attempt to recapture one's youth. Reminds me of when my boss was playing Sonic Boom from KISS and convincing himself that it was their best album in decades.
I long ago accepted that Alice will never recapture whatever it was he used to have. He'll either be trying to jump onto musical trends he doesn't quite understand or drift into nostalgia. But he usually scores a song or two I really enjoy, if only because they're wonderfully silly.
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Steven Clubb
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:23 pm |
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Liefeld Funny
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Finally got to listen to the back half of the album. Just disappointing and no real comedy stand-outs. Caffiene is no Can't Sleep Clowns Will Eat Me and Ghouls Gone Wild just sounds like it belongs in a zombie remake of Gidget.
The disco and Ke$ha songs are both pretty awful with the first one being as timely as a Vietnam protest song and the second one not being as catchy as a Ke$ha song. These two needed to get mashed together into a catchy parody of today's dance music.
The ballad was dreadful.
Biggest mistake is the Underture which shows you just how big of a come-down the new album is by sampling all the songs of the two albums. The first one is filled with these big, expansive melodies while this album is a lot of mid-temp meh.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:52 pm |
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Billy Taylor wrote: Does anyone know whether any of the live tracks on the Best Buy edition are with the original band? According to the extremely small print liner notes, no it is not the original band.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:00 am |
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The allmusic review of "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" calls it "not only...an unexpectedly successful sequel but the best Alice Cooper record in decades." I haven't gotten my copy yet (the magazine fan pack is on its way from the UK), but unless it's amazing (which doesn't seem to be the case based on most reviews), I question if the reviewer has actually listened to any of his albums of the last two decades. I would put "Brutal Planet," "Dragontown" and "The Eyes Of Alice Cooper" up there with some of his best work, especially the lyrics.
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Geff R.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:17 pm |
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The teeny liner notes also often show the the great Steve Hunter relegated to rhythm guitar, in favor of some guy named Ted playing lead. HUH??! Disc Wagner is also on 1 track.
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Geff R.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:15 pm |
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After buying the BB edition, I burned it leaving off the disco song. it still does not rank in AC's top releases, but is much more listenable this way.
From reading the lyrics, I THINK the anti disco song is actually an anti gangster rap song masquerading as anti disco, & while I agree with the sentiment, I still find the song irritating. I also strongly suspect this one is pretty brickwalled, Sonically it's a bit irritating; much more so than the EH ITW is played right before it. "Ghouls Gone Wild" is also a bit irritating, Alice meets the Beach Boys.
One final comment: Just got to the studio "bonus track" Under The Bed. It's by far the best song on the entire album. Why is it relegated to bonus track?
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:01 pm |
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iTunes adds the bonus track "A Bad Situation."
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Geff R.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:08 pm |
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David Baker wrote: iTunes adds the bonus track "A Bad Situation." 
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:45 pm |
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Boney Fingers Jones
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Its been a month, is this a must or a pass? I heard the album mentioned on XM Radio the other day but of course they didn't play anything off of it. The original is a classic to me.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:55 pm |
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IMO, it's a wait for 3rd party sellers to blow it out, then grab it. Sadly, the best song is one of the BB bonus tracks, "Under The Bed". So you may want to get that edition.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:09 pm |
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I've listened to it three times and I have to say I really like it. At first I wasn't sure, especially with that auto-tune sound on the first song, the Kesha (er, Ke$ha) guest vocal, the disco song...but then I got into the whole "new nightmare" concept and really started to enjoy it. The three songs with the guys from the original Alice Cooper band are all very good to excellent. I think it's better than "Along Came A Spider," which was trying too hard to be creepy but wasn't as tuneful or diverse as the new one. For a latter-day AC album, it's not on the level of "The Eyes Of Alice Cooper," "Brutal Planet" or "Dragontown," but it's really good. I'm glad I spent the money for the Classic Rock magazine special edition.
Keep in mind it's not even close to the original "Welcome To My NIghtmare," but shouldn't be compared to that after 35 years. I have a tape of me as a 10-year old singing an a capella version of the title song, so I've been a fan of that album for a loooong time.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:39 pm |
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I picked this up at Best Buy for $10. Is it the equal of the first Nightmare? No, and I didn't expect it to be either. I still liked it, not as much as Along Came a Spider, but I've only listened to it 1-1/2 times. The Last Temptation is my second favorite Cooper concept album next to Nightmare. Nightmare 2 is okay, which is alot better than what I get from some of the artists I used to listen to.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:37 pm |
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I finally got this too and I really enjoyed it. I don't get why some here diss it so much.
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Geff R.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:00 am |
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Someone just posted the setlist from a September 2011 show with a couple all star guests. I was very surprised that there is only 1 song (& 1 bonus track) from this album in AC's current show. Apparently Icer's are more positive on the new album than AC is! 01 - Introduction 02 - Train Kept A Rollin' (Aerosmith Cover) 03 - Under My Wheels 04 - No More Mr. Nice Guy 05 - Is It My Body 06 - Brown Sugar (Rolling Stones cover) 07 - I'll Bite Your Face Off 08 - Muscle Of Love 09 - Cold Ethyl 10 - We Gotta Get Out Of This Place (The Animals cover, Euro bonus track from the new album) 11 - Billion Dollar Babies 12 - Break On Through (w/ Robby Krieger, The Doors) 13 - Back Door Man (w/ Robby Krieger, The Doors) 14 - Poison 15 - Eighteen 16 - School's Out w/ Another Brick In The Wall - Pink Floyd - snippet feat. Ke$ha 17 - Elected
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:09 am |
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Each night I take my groceries and I drift away...
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"Train Kept A-Rollin'" is an Aerosmith cover?
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Geff R.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:11 am |
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Yes, half the planet has done it, but I think of it as Aerosmith. I consider their version definitive, & yes I do own the Page/Beck/Yardbirds version.
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Geff R.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:56 am |
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FYI, there was an hd tv broadcast in the UK of a 2011 Halloween show.
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Post subject: [2011-09-13] Alice Cooper "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" (Hip-O) Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:35 pm |
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Each night I take my groceries and I drift away...
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Dr. Chris Evil wrote: I finally got this too and I really enjoyed it. I don't get why some here diss it so much. I finally got around to buying the Best Buy edition (on the heels of my mini-sleeves arrving from Japan) and I've been playing it in my car for going on two weeks now. This album is a blast! Rereading some of these posts, I don't get the griping either. I need to go back and grad some of these albums I've missed over the past ten years or so--if they're as "bad" as people say "W2MN" is, I'll probably enjoy the crap out of them.
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