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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:24 pm 
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Introducing Live-Plus … 35-Day Ratings(!) as TV's New Normal Struggles

Television's biggest winners of the 2015-16 season are barely winners at all. The few returning broadcast series that saw zero ratings movement are considered the hits, as fractured viewing and the era of Peak TV rewrite the rules of conventional audience measurement. That's why this season might be the last judged by Nielsen's current live-plus-7-day measuring stick.

Despite the May axing of 19 first-year series and such surprise dumpings as ABC's Castle and Nashville, cancellations are proving rarer, even as linear ratings shrink. That's because, of the 60 returning scripted series to air on the five main broadcast networks this season, only one finished with improved ratings from the previous year. And that show premiered in the '90s. Law & Order: SVU's modest gain, up an incremental 4 percent during its 17th cycle, is a case study in how the industry standard week of DVR and on-demand views doesn't provide the most complete narrative any longer — or at least not one that the networks are eager to tell.

"We have found that audiences continue to grow beyond seven days in every instance, some by 58 percent among adults 18-to-49," says Nielsen audience insights senior vp Glenn Enoch. "Growth after seven days is consistent, but the rate of growth varies by genre. Some programs need to be viewed in the week they air, while consumers use on-demand libraries to view others over time, like animated comedies and episodic dramas."

To that end, on Aug. 29, Nielsen will up the turnaround on live-plus-7-day reporting (no more 15-day wait time), offering daily rolling on time-shifting, and it will start extending the tail past the long-established extra week of views. The measurement giant quietly announced in March that the window for regularly reported on-demand and DVR data now will extend to 35 days after the original airdate.

The extra draw between weeks two and five is not minor for many scripted series. Grey's Anatomy, again ABC's highest-rated drama in its 12th season, saw its live-plus-7 average in the key demographic drop 3 percent from the previous season. But the 35-day trail of VOD (with online streams) adds another 1.5 rating points among 18-to-49, making for a 6 percent improvement from the show's 11th season. (Of note: 1.5 is the complete live-plus-7-day rating for Thursday neighbor and surprise renewal The Catch.)

Nielsen also still is developing its multiplatform standard, Nielsen Total Audience, though the timetable is contingent upon ongoing talks with its clients — some of which are more eager than others to implement a system that will enable networks to see everyone's digital hands. Cable, where ratings have been ravaged harder, is particularly eager to see new measurements that could expand audiences via Hulu and network-owned streaming apps. ESPN chief John Skipper touted the product during his upfront presentation May 17, saying: "You're going to see some very dramatic out-of-home numbers from ESPN. They will be in our Nielsen numbers starting in 2017."

On the broadcast side, one source says NBC's multiplatform audience for full-episode streams is up 14 percent from the previous season, driven by increases for Hulu on connected devices. And Fox proved its appetite for multiplatform in November, when chiefs Dana Walden and Gary Newman issued a brandwide gag order on same-day ratings reporting after seeing increased growth outside the traditional numbers. Golden goose Empire, which got flak during its sophomore run for live ratings declines, also looks much better in the multiplatform light. The latest numbers have the series averaging 21.2 million viewers per episode across platforms during its second season — an addition of 5.5 million viewers, or more than 25 percent of its total audience. "Ten of our series double or more their same-day audiences with delayed viewing across platforms," says Fox senior vp and head of research Will Somers. "Our nonlinear average audience — viewing across VOD, Hulu and FoxNow — for original entertainment programming this season is up 19 percent from the 2014-15 broadcast season average."

Still, these ratings remain largely a matter of perception. Most media buyers are quick to note that the difference between C3 and C7 ratings are minimal. The notion of a C35 rating, something that likely will be floated in future upfront markets, may not bring the boosts needed to shift the ad-buying metric yet again.

But perception does matter, and networks do at least have the comfort that the latest crop of series orders already have been the subject of heavy discussion and engagement online. Early winners, per digital analytics firm ListenFirst, are Fox's Prison Break reboot and NBC's Dan Fogelman dramedy This Is Us. "There's enough general frustration that the current ratings miss viewers, wherever they are, that more networks are looking for other valuations for how their programs reach consumers," says ListenFirst co-CEO Jason Klein. "There are many series undervalued by linear ratings that have exceptionally high engagement."

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I'm at the point where for most shows I wait until they've completed the season and then binge watch. It's easier to remember what's going on and follow it. Some stuff, like Flash, I watch weekly.


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All I can say is the DVR saved TV for me. No way can I watch any of these shows in real time

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:25 pm 
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If the show is available on Netflix or Amazon, I might give it a whirl.

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I DVR shows and watch them later but am terrible at binge watching. I better get to the show right away or the episodes will pile up.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:41 pm 
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That's why I buy DVDs. That way I can wait for years before I finally get to them. :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:21 pm 
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As I've said, my general consists of the following:

1. Don't watch new shows, they may be flops and a waste of time.
2. Wait for the shows that gain buzz, and become a thing, to make the best use of my time.
3. A couple of seasons are necessary to be sure it has staying power.
4. Slight procrastination in getting around to it . . .
5. Ugh, there's quite a few shows now . . . this would be a major investment of time to watch all the seasons so far.
6. I wonder if there's something else up and coming now that would be good . . .

So I end watching almost no shows.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:11 am 
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Li'l Jay wrote:
As I've said, my general consists of the following:

1. Don't watch new shows, they may be flops and a waste of time.
2. Wait for the shows that gain buzz, and become a thing, to make the best use of my time.
3. A couple of seasons are necessary to be sure it has staying power.
4. Slight procrastination in getting around to it . . .
5. Ugh, there's quite a few shows now . . . this would be a major investment of time to watch all the seasons so far.
6. I wonder if there's something else up and coming now that would be good . . .

So I end watching almost no shows.


This, exactly. I hear about a lot of new shows that seem like a good idea, and then eventually get to step 6 and never watch them.

Right now it's just Game of Thrones, Walking Dead, the various Marvel shows and Doctor Who. Definitely watching Star Trek in 2017, tho.


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If the show is available on Netflix or Amazon, I might give it a whirl.

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Only live sports and Game of Thrones are watched live, and the latter only because there aren't commercials on HBO.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:38 am 
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I watch no new shows.

Right now I am making my way through DVDs of "The Cosby Show." Brilliant series. I think we can safely say at this point that this show is Cosby's legacy, the one single thing he'll be remembered for.


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I DVR shows and watch them later but am terrible at binge watching. I better get to the show right away or the episodes will pile up.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:13 am 
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If it weren't for my wife, I'm pretty sure the only shows I'd be watching are Real Time with Bill Maher, Last Week Tonight with Jon Oliver, South Park, some sports, and maybe Game of Thrones.

I've been watching a lot of Venture Brothers on Hulu this week though.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:12 am 
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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
If it weren't for my wife, I'm pretty sure the only shows I'd be watching are Real Time with Bill Maher, Last Week Tonight with Jon Oliver, South Park, some sports, and maybe Game of Thrones..

This is pretty much me, minus South Park. I also watch Samantha Bee.


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I think she's the best. Finally a Jon Stewart replacement.

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I think she's the best. Finally a Jon Stewart replacement.

Yeah, she and Oliver are fantastic. The other two, hit and miss.


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If it weren't for professional and college football, I wouldn't have AT&T U-verse for TV, just for my Internet.

I have two custom built Kodi boxes that I use to stream anything and everything. I could probably stream live sports, but haven't looked too deeply into it.

Basically, if I hear about a good show, I'll start streaming it. If it's good enough, I'll watch it week-to-week (Game of Thrones, The Americans, Veep, Archer). If it's just a decent show, I'll binge-watch and catch up when I get the chance (Penny Dreadful, The Flash, American Dad).

Right now, I'm going through a nostalgia kick, so if there's nothing new that I'm interested in watching, I'm watching old 1980s TV shows. WKRP, Night Court, Moonlighting, and some others.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:01 am 
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Ocean Doot wrote:
I watch no new shows.

Right now I am making my way through DVDs of "The Cosby Show." Brilliant series. I think we can safely say at this point that this show is Cosby's legacy, the one single thing he'll be remembered for.


Which Cosby kid are you the same age as? The youngest one?

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Li'l Jay wrote:
Ocean Doot wrote:
I watch no new shows.

Right now I am making my way through DVDs of "The Cosby Show." Brilliant series. I think we can safely say at this point that this show is Cosby's legacy, the one single thing he'll be remembered for.


Which Cosby kid are you the same age as? The youngest one?


Rudy. The youngest of the original five, but older than Raven. You?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:23 am 
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I was a Vanessa. I think Jay was a Theo.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:35 am 
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I was a Vanessa. I think Jay was a Theo.


I'm a tick older than Theo, and a tick younger than Denise. Because of the small delay in getting them aired, I identified more with Denise's age. (Different World premiered as I was a college freshmen).

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